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Experiences with Bravo Company Manufacturing

Post by Whackpack7 » Tue May 08, 2012 6:36 pm

My summer project is to either get, build, or have someone build for me an AR-15/M4 clone in 5.56x45. I'm a fairly active and avid shooter/hunter and have worked with IDPA and some NRA groups before so I'd like to say I have a reasonable knowledge of firearms and defensive shooting but nothing fancy. I have always wanted an AR, and I've finally decided to put my money where my mouth is and get one. I have talked to my local regular dealers and my friend who is a Class III armorer and we have kicked around ideas ranging from a standard off the shelf gun to having a custom one made to ordering from a high end company. I read through many of the threads here on AR's to get an idea of what others have done. I'm gonna be honest, I don't need that happy 'I built this gun myself feeling', I've been there and built other guns before and so I could care less who built it so long as they know what they are doing and I get a quality weapon.

What I am wondering is if anyone has had a personal experience with BCM or their representatives and what you think of their quality, weapons, pricing, and customer service. The specific models I am considering are the EAG Tactical Carbine http://www.bravocompanymfg.com/specific ... ctical.php and the M4 MOD2 http://www.bravocompanymfg.com/specific ... 4_mod2.php

Input is appreciated.

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Post by phil_in_cs » Tue May 08, 2012 6:57 pm

Whackpack7 wrote: you think of their quality, weapons, pricing, and customer service.
Input is appreciated.
excellent, not sure what you mean, excellent, superior. I have one of the basic mid length uppers, with a BCM bolt carrier group and a gunfighter charging handle.

as a weapon? It is a rifle that works reliably. It puts holes where I expect them to be.
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Re: Experiences with Bravo Company Manufacturing

Post by Whackpack7 » Tue May 08, 2012 7:00 pm

I suppose by pricing I was referring to value or bang for your buck. I could have worded it better sorry. From your experiences would you suggest using bits and pieces such as an upper or lower, or straight up purchasing a ready made weapon?

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Post by BigBossMan » Tue May 08, 2012 7:43 pm

phil_in_cs wrote:
Whackpack7 wrote: you think of their quality, weapons, pricing, and customer service.
Input is appreciated.
excellent, not sure what you mean, excellent, superior. I have one of the basic mid length uppers, with a BCM bolt carrier group and a gunfighter charging handle.

as a weapon? It is a rifle that works reliably. It puts holes where I expect them to be.
I'm running a mid-length upper, charging handle and bolt carrier group from them as well. I love it. Whatever you do, don't skimp on the bolt & carrier group and make sure you get one that is MPI tested.
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Post by UndeadInfidel » Tue May 08, 2012 9:54 pm

I've ordered from them probably 8-10 times for various parts, and every single order has been perfect. Fast, accurate, and well packaged... All of the products I've received have been top notch as far as quality.

I recently moved and messed up my new address ZIP. They called me in person because they caught the error, and shipped it out.
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Post by hatchtrikk » Tue May 08, 2012 10:01 pm

My first experience with them made me a customer for life.

When I built my first lower, I lost the rear takedown pin spring. On my second order, I asked them if I could buy one separately and they sent it for free.

Sure, it was probably a 10 cent part, but they didn't ask questions or charge me. Awesome CS, great prices and fast shipping. Everything you'd want in a company.


I recommend building one yourself. Pliers, a hammer and a nail are all you really need to assemble a lower and it's stupid easy.
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Post by jamoni » Wed May 09, 2012 12:10 am

Love them. I have their 20" upper on my Rock River lower, and it's top notch. Accurate, reliable, great finish, great product period. It's my go-to gun.
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Re: Experiences with Bravo Company Manufacturing

Post by Regulator » Wed May 09, 2012 12:47 am

I'm running a BCM M-4 profile upper with BCM BCG on an Umbrella Corp lower. Works great, I'd do it again. As others said, the customer service is outstanding too. When you build your own you can get exactly what you want the first time.

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Post by leatherface_y2k » Wed May 09, 2012 1:17 am

I've never read a negative report / review of BCM. Only thing "might" be a delay in availability of parts. Not their fault. Just the way the market is these days. All AR-type manufacturers and parts houses can barely keep up with demand. My next M4-gery will be a build and I already have my eye a BCM rifle-length upper.

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Post by TheLastOne » Wed May 09, 2012 2:17 am

I've ordered different things from them over the last year or so, and have always had what I ordered shipped by the next day. Everything has arrived as ordered. Quality is top notch, service is top notch. Price for what you get is pretty damn good too. It's also worth waiting for what you want to be in stock. Get on the mailing list if you have an upper etc that you want that they are out of, it will send you a notice when in stock. I'd put their phone # in your phone and call right then when you get the notice, or if you have a web browser on your phone, bookmark that sucker so you can get it. Stuff goes fast.

FWIW on the whole building your rifle thing: it ain't building, it's putting together. It is stupid easy for the most part, and you can even save a few hundred just buying an upper, a bolt carrier group, and a complete lower. That's less pieces than when you field strip the damn thing. Don't get caught up in the 'building', think of it as assembling. There's no friggin welding or cutting, it's putting together a fairly simple device. There's gotta be about a million youtube vids on how to make it happen, and saving a few hundred = 1k rounds of ammo that you can get right away. Use the search function here and look for Arch's thread on the subject.
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Post by omega_man » Wed May 09, 2012 5:34 am

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Post by phil_in_cs » Wed May 09, 2012 6:40 am

Whackpack7 wrote: From your experiences would you suggest using bits and pieces such as an upper or lower, or straight up purchasing a ready made weapon?
I don't know how to build up an AR from parts, and honestly don't care to learn. From BCM I bought a "complete upper", which means everything is assembled, but there is no rear sight, no furniture, no bolt carrier, and no charging handle. I got all of those from BCM and since those are the parts you take apart to clean the rifle, I can put them together.
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Post by Gingerbread Man » Wed May 09, 2012 6:53 am

Whackpack7 wrote:From your experiences would you suggest using bits and pieces such as an upper or lower, or straight up purchasing a ready made weapon?
I've built a lot of AR-15s from scratch. I would strongly suggest it if you are serious about your guns. All the guns that I consider possible for defensive uses I know how to strip all the way down and rebuild. I feel that if you put an AR or any other gun together from scratch you'll gain insights in to how it functions and will have an intimate knowledge of how it functions.

The tools necessary to complete the task are very affordable. What's nice about the AR is that you can buy the gun a little at a time and build it slowly which is much easier on the bank account.
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Post by nimdabew » Wed May 09, 2012 9:31 am

They are my go-to supplier for most AR-15 parts.
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Post by Whackpack7 » Wed May 09, 2012 4:35 pm

Thanks everyone for the input and if you haven't commented yet, keep them coming. Since I posted I have called around and talked to some LEOs in my neighborhood and members of my Army ROTC unit and everyone has said they are bar none one of the best around. I am certain that I will be ordering from BCM at this point as soon as my local FFL makes contact.

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Post by Vicarious_Lee » Wed May 09, 2012 4:41 pm

I have bought stuff from them, and that stuff was reasonably priced, worked, well, and the order went fine. I'm with Phil about getting a complete upper. The rest of the gun is both easy to build and also doesn't require any specialized tools.
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Post by Unorthodox » Wed May 09, 2012 5:39 pm

They're terrible. I would never trust my life to a BCM rifle or anything with BCM parts in it. If I were you I'd stick with Olympic or DPMS. I put 100 rounds flawless rounds through my Oly rifle but ymmv
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Post by JTNieman » Wed May 09, 2012 5:55 pm

phil_in_cs wrote:
Whackpack7 wrote: From your experiences would you suggest using bits and pieces such as an upper or lower, or straight up purchasing a ready made weapon?
I don't know how to build up an AR from parts, and honestly don't care to learn. From BCM I bought a "complete upper", which means everything is assembled, but there is no rear sight, no furniture, no bolt carrier, and no charging handle. I got all of those from BCM and since those are the parts you take apart to clean the rifle, I can put them together.
It takes only one actual "specialty" tool to assemble an upper. Sometimes it's enough of a PITA to not do it. I buy complete uppers, myself, and I -have- access to every AR tool you could want.

Whackpack7, it's a pretty simple process, honestly. The bigger decision on whether or not to buy a complete rifle or buy parts is as follows:

1) Get price of the complete rifle you want
2) Price out the total cost of parts to assemble the same rifle
3) It -will- be cheaper to assemble your own, however after finding that price, you need to decide "Is it worth more to save the money, or is it worth more to have a warranty?"

If you want to build your own and now want to decide upon building your upper or buying a complete upper... the process is the same, except you replace warranty with the risk of installing your barrel and muzzle device right, and all that. It's not hard at all, and arfcom (and other places) have excellent, detailed, clear, and illustrated step by step guides on doing so.

Personally, I fall half-way. I don't bother assembling uppers, but I don't buy complete rifles. YMMV

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Re: Experiences with Bravo Company Manufacturing

Post by 400 Grains » Thu May 10, 2012 6:22 am

Unorthodox wrote:They're terrible. I would never trust my life to a BCM rifle or anything with BCM parts in it. If I were you I'd stick with Olympic or DPMS. I put 100 rounds flawless rounds through my Oly rifle but ymmv
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Re: Experiences with Bravo Company Manufacturing

Post by kbilly84 » Thu May 10, 2012 8:21 am

Had my first experience with 'em last week. Ordered placed Thursday AM. It was delivered the next day. 24 hours tops. :shock:
I've NEVER had shipping that damn fast, unless I've specifically paid for overnight and rush processing. I didn't get a hat, but I got about four thousand BCM stickers. :lol:
If this level of CS is the norm from them, they've got a customer for life.

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Re: Experiences with Bravo Company Manufacturing

Post by 400 Grains » Thu May 10, 2012 10:45 am

OP, rather than buying one of the completed rifles, think about buying their complete lower and then picking an upper from their large selection. I think you can save some money by installing any other accessories you need yourself.

And definitely pick one of their midlength uppers.

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Re: Experiences with Bravo Company Manufacturing

Post by wguy00 » Thu May 10, 2012 12:04 pm

I've got a BCM blemished upper and a Gunfighter charging handle. This is sitting on a PSA lower with PSA parts kit, a DD BCG, and a PSA barrel. Both BCM parts work for me. Their shipping time is outrageously fast.

I'm also in the build your own group. I chose to build my own complete rifle so I would be much more familiar with the inner workings of my rifle. It only takes a couple hours and you don't need many specialty parts. As far as specialty, maybe just an armorer's wrench. Other than that, I used a hammer, a couple punches, pliers, blue loctite and some tape. I did need a specialty wrench to install my Troy/Vtac hand guard, but that was included in the purchase of the hand guard.
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Re: Experiences with Bravo Company Manufacturing

Post by Big B » Thu May 10, 2012 1:06 pm

BCM makes some of the best ARs out there right now.
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Re: Experiences with Bravo Company Manufacturing

Post by AR15Tac » Thu May 10, 2012 2:42 pm

BCM is without a doubt one of the top companies in the industry for both quality and customer service. Can't go wrong with them.

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