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WTF Rifle of the Month *Open to all kinds of guns now*

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:27 pm
by Czechnology
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =164775155" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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.308 Saiga with a 1919 bbl and Valmet furniture.

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:31 pm
by AZMedic
Ummm that is interesting.

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:32 pm
by gelgoog
put a Galil hand guard on there and it might actually look like something the russians made...otherwise wtf?

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:39 pm
by AZMedic
I kinda thought Firefly?

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:44 pm
by Czechnology
AZMedic wrote:I kinda thought Firefly?
Fallout.

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:45 pm
by AZMedic
Czechnology wrote:
AZMedic wrote:I kinda thought Firefly?
Fallout.
Ok I can see that more now. The stock confused me.

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:06 pm
by user name
That thing is....is... I don't know what that is. At first I thought it was a Saiga 12 with an RPK buttstock.

Here's one I saw a few days ago which kind of boggled my mind:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =165559067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:09 pm
by Badger24
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Looks like some kind of POTA gun.

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:28 pm
by vyadmirer
user name wrote:That thing is....is... I don't know what that is. At first I thought it was a Saiga 12 with an RPK buttstock.

Here's one I saw a few days ago which kind of boggled my mind:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =165559067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Some people like the tactical AK look. However, nobody likes that fail gun up there. :lol:

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:34 pm
by phalanx
Is that an HK diopter sight? I think that's kind of sexy, in a "when worlds collide" kind of way.

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:37 pm
by vyadmirer
phalanx wrote:Is that an HK diopter sight? I think that's kind of sexy, in a "when worlds collide" kind of way.
except it's installed on the dust cover which is a horrible place for a sight. It's not stable nor solid enough for a sight. Plus, every time you clean it, it will need to be re-zeroed.

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:43 pm
by phalanx
vyadmirer wrote:
phalanx wrote:Is that an HK diopter sight? I think that's kind of sexy, in a "when worlds collide" kind of way.
except it's installed on the dust cover which is a horrible place for a sight. It's not stable nor solid enough for a sight. Plus, every time you clean it, it will need to be re-zeroed.
Okay, riddle me this, if the sight was designed for the .308 round then could it still function for x39? Would the difference in ballistics be enough to make the sight useless at 400 yards, even if they were "close enough" at 100?

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:53 pm
by Hoppy
phalanx wrote:
vyadmirer wrote:
phalanx wrote:Is that an HK diopter sight? I think that's kind of sexy, in a "when worlds collide" kind of way.
except it's installed on the dust cover which is a horrible place for a sight. It's not stable nor solid enough for a sight. Plus, every time you clean it, it will need to be re-zeroed.
Okay, riddle me this, if the sight was designed for the .308 round then could it still function for x39? Would the difference in ballistics be enough to make the sight useless at 400 yards, even if they were "close enough" at 100?

there is SO many variables. the angle of the barrel ( keep in mind barrels are not mounted parallel to sights, they are at a slight incline), the rear sight itself. and a lot more. keep in mind adjustable sights basicaly INCREASE or DECREASE the angle of the barrel to the sights. sights have an over all limit on travel. the point where the sights wont move any more in either up or down direction.

308 shoots flatter than x39. if optimally adjusted (read professionally done), i imagine this rifle could function minute of man out to 300. would EASILY be on target at 100. i fear this is more of a drunk "betcha i can!" build than a pro job

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:53 pm
by mikezq8ss
I couldn't put my finger on what I thought about it... I looked at it for several minutes trying to figure out exactly what my feelings were and I just couldn't quite grasp it so I went on to read the replies...
Czechnology wrote: Fallout.
+1

And because of that I now like it :lol:

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:01 pm
by Czechnology
I love the Valmet wood stock/grip, and you'd fucking need it when you've got a LMG barrel on the other end. It just winds up looking like a fucked up, suppressed G3. I don't like the slapped on sights, and it's got to feel weird having all that weight hanging off a little stamped receiver.

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:53 pm
by Crazy Wolf
I feel like I should scrounge up the cash to buy this, just so I know how to make use of a bunch of different broken firearms in any PAW.

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:59 pm
by Cpt. MelonBuster
vyadmirer wrote:
user name wrote:That thing is....is... I don't know what that is. At first I thought it was a Saiga 12 with an RPK buttstock.

Here's one I saw a few days ago which kind of boggled my mind:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =165559067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Some people like the tactical AK look. However, nobody likes that fail gun up there. :lol:
Maybe its wrong of me....but I kind of like it. Except that stupid HK rear sight...

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:46 pm
by nimdabew
I wonder if he came out of his mom stupid or if he had to work at it. That AK looks like shit. Not mentioning the rear sight... :shudders:

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:55 pm
by phalanx
Hoppy wrote:
phalanx wrote:
vyadmirer wrote:
phalanx wrote:Is that an HK diopter sight? I think that's kind of sexy, in a "when worlds collide" kind of way.
except it's installed on the dust cover which is a horrible place for a sight. It's not stable nor solid enough for a sight. Plus, every time you clean it, it will need to be re-zeroed.
Okay, riddle me this, if the sight was designed for the .308 round then could it still function for x39? Would the difference in ballistics be enough to make the sight useless at 400 yards, even if they were "close enough" at 100?

there is SO many variables. the angle of the barrel ( keep in mind barrels are not mounted parallel to sights, they are at a slight incline), the rear sight itself. and a lot more. keep in mind adjustable sights basicaly INCREASE or DECREASE the angle of the barrel to the sights. sights have an over all limit on travel. the point where the sights wont move any more in either up or down direction.

308 shoots flatter than x39. if optimally adjusted (read professionally done), i imagine this rifle could function minute of man out to 300. would EASILY be on target at 100. i fear this is more of a drunk "betcha i can!" build than a pro job
Gotcha. And yeah, those welds look terrible.
nimdabew wrote:I wonder if he came out of his mom stupid or if he had to work at it. That AK looks like shit. Not mentioning the rear sight... :shudders:
Aw come on, I give the owner points for originality. I can honestly say I have never seen that before, the fact that it's for a good reason is beside the point.

Clarity edit.

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:36 am
by Driftertank
I really like the HK diopters....but as pointed out, they are poorly implemented and poorly thought out in that case.

Tac forearms and VFG's are kinda....wrong.....on AK's.

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:18 am
by Istvan56
Uh, how does that underfolder close with the VFG there? On the old Romanian AKM's with wooden foregrips the stock folded up around the grip like pictured here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ldier.JPEG

There is always a reason folks sell these monstrosities despite how much they say they love them. They shoot like crap! :P

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:43 am
by Bender711
Bastard child of a sagia 12, vss vintorez and an RPK.

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:07 am
by Panzershreke
Think it will take down a super mutant?

Re: WTF Rifle of the Month

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:45 am
by AZMedic
Panzershreke wrote:Think it will take down a super mutant?
With enough ammo yes. Or my gas from the bacon explosion yes.