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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by quazi » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:29 pm

Brotherbadger wrote:What are you using the gun for? Home Defense? Plinking? Varmit hunting? Match shooting? Do you want it to be a tack driver? Are you planning to make it a SBR? Do you want it to be lightweight? The AR platform is pretty versatile, but you need to figure(or let us know) out what you want to do with it, and go from there.

As for guides, youtube as tons of videos as to the actual process of building an AR. It's actually extremely simple. If you are unfamiliar with the platform, i'd suggest spending some time in the AR15.com tech forums, as there is a wealth of knowledge there.
If I go the AR route it will be for home/farm defense. Of course it will be used for fun as well. I'm still trying to decide if I want to go suppressed .300 blackout. That would mostly be for fun, as the quieter the firearm the more I like to shoot it. I'm just not sure it would be worth the ~$800 or so, and if I'm not going to get a suppressor I'd go with 5.56 instead of .300 AAC BO.

Then again I might not get an AR at all. I think a semi-auto .308 might be more practical, but it doesn't sound nearly as fun.

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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by Brotherbadger » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:28 am

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Brotherbadger wrote:What are you using the gun for? Home Defense? Plinking? Varmit hunting? Match shooting? Do you want it to be a tack driver? Are you planning to make it a SBR? Do you want it to be lightweight? The AR platform is pretty versatile, but you need to figure(or let us know) out what you want to do with it, and go from there.

As for guides, youtube as tons of videos as to the actual process of building an AR. It's actually extremely simple. If you are unfamiliar with the platform, i'd suggest spending some time in the AR15.com tech forums, as there is a wealth of knowledge there.
If I go the AR route it will be for home/farm defense. Of course it will be used for fun as well. I'm still trying to decide if I want to go suppressed .300 blackout. That would mostly be for fun, as the quieter the firearm the more I like to shoot it. I'm just not sure it would be worth the ~$800 or so, and if I'm not going to get a suppressor I'd go with 5.56 instead of .300 AAC BO.

Then again I might not get an AR at all. I think a semi-auto .308 might be more practical, but it doesn't sound nearly as fun.

Is there anyway you can shoot both and decide which style fits you better? Some places let you rent guns at their range, it's worth looking into. Last thing you want to do is spend $900 on an AR and decide it's not for you.

My thoughts as far as an AR: go lightweight. Get a pencil(also called lightweight) barrel if possible, and stay away from quad rails. There is nothing wrong with quad rails, but they are about double the weight of many of the new rail setups, and chances are you will never utilize the extra space(not to mention they eat up your hands). IMO, unless you are going to be trying for some bench competitions there is little reason to not have the setup as light as possible. If you are going to be lugging it around, 7lbs is far easier than 11lbs. Again, some might disagree, it's just my opinion.
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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:32 pm

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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by Resolute » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:49 pm

Alright, omnipotent ZS hive mind...

I have a 300 AAC build. 8.5 inch barrel, tubular cf forend, Palmetto upper, lower, and guts, BCM BCG... and a Palmetto pistol buffer tube.

The thing that I'm most unhappy about is the buffer tube. It's huge, heavy, and long.

I feel like I've seen others that are shorter, lighter, and have some padding for a cheek weld. Anyone have any options I should look at?

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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by Assault Life » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:58 pm

Resolute wrote:Alright, omnipotent ZS hive mind...

I have a 300 AAC build. 8.5 inch barrel, tubular cf forend, Palmetto upper, lower, and guts, BCM BCG... and a Palmetto pistol buffer tube.

The thing that I'm most unhappy about is the buffer tube. It's huge, heavy, and long.

I feel like I've seen others that are shorter, lighter, and have some padding for a cheek weld. Anyone have any options I should look at?
No experience with the Palmetto, but I was happy with my Spikes pistol buffer assembly.
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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by PistolPete » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:38 pm

Resolute wrote:Alright, omnipotent ZS hive mind...

I have a 300 AAC build. 8.5 inch barrel, tubular cf forend, Palmetto upper, lower, and guts, BCM BCG... and a Palmetto pistol buffer tube.

The thing that I'm most unhappy about is the buffer tube. It's huge, heavy, and long.

I feel like I've seen others that are shorter, lighter, and have some padding for a cheek weld. Anyone have any options I should look at?
I've used the ones from ACE and from Rock River and neither have annoyed me.
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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by UndeadInfidel » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:45 am

Resolute wrote:Alright, omnipotent ZS hive mind...

I have a 300 AAC build. 8.5 inch barrel, tubular cf forend, Palmetto upper, lower, and guts, BCM BCG... and a Palmetto pistol buffer tube.

The thing that I'm most unhappy about is the buffer tube. It's huge, heavy, and long.

I feel like I've seen others that are shorter, lighter, and have some padding for a cheek weld. Anyone have any options I should look at?
The longer tubes are actually better if you wish to shoulder the pistol. I mean, do you really shoot it like a pistol anyway?
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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by BigDaddyTX » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:30 pm

Resolute wrote:Alright, omnipotent ZS hive mind...

I have a 300 AAC build. 8.5 inch barrel, tubular cf forend, Palmetto upper, lower, and guts, BCM BCG... and a Palmetto pistol buffer tube.

The thing that I'm most unhappy about is the buffer tube. It's huge, heavy, and long.

I feel like I've seen others that are shorter, lighter, and have some padding for a cheek weld. Anyone have any options I should look at?
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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by Resolute » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:03 pm

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The longer tubes are actually better if you wish to shoulder the pistol. I mean, do you really shoot it like a pistol anyway?
(Edit: I thought) Shouldering a pistol is a NFA no-no. (Edit: But I'm probably wrong.)
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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:08 pm

Resolute wrote:
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The longer tubes are actually better if you wish to shoulder the pistol. I mean, do you really shoot it like a pistol anyway?
Shouldering a pistol is a NFA no-no.
Bullshit. Source.

To clarify: Show me a federal document that states that it is illegal to hold a legal pistol (that is, one that is legal and has been determined to be legal in its current state) against your shoulder to fire it.

I'll wait.
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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by UndeadInfidel » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:55 pm

Resolute wrote:
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The longer tubes are actually better if you wish to shoulder the pistol. I mean, do you really shoot it like a pistol anyway?
Shouldering a pistol is a NFA no-no.
Yep this is complete and absolute bullshit.
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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by Resolute » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:54 pm

Thanks for educating. So then, for clarification, buttstocks or anything used as a buttstock on a pistol is illegal?

Ninja edit: Or is it if you have a buttstock on a barrel less than 16", then it's an SBR?

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Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:28 pm

Resolute wrote:Thanks for educating. So then, for clarification, buttstocks or anything used as a buttstock on a pistol is illegal?

Ninja edit: Or is it if you have a buttstock on a barrel less than 16", then it's an SBR?
http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearm ... index.html

Don't take this the wrong way, but go read. Start with that, then start looking up the white letters. NFA is a bit to complex for blanket sweeping answers. First you have to understand what is a handgun, what is a rifle, what is an NFA firearm, and what an Other Weapon is (different from an NFA Any Other Weapon) and you can go from there. There's also the NFA questions thread: http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/view ... 07&t=73812 which is a good place to go through as well.
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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by Resolute » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:42 pm

Thanks for the link. I'm not butthurt in the least. I know others know these rules/laws much better than I do. I should also refrain from posting when mildly inebriated - it's harder to convey what I want to say in a cogent sentence (from the first post that started this part of the conversation).

Time to read more, post less....

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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by Caenus » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:46 pm

Can anyone point me towards a decent deal on an 8-10" 300 blackout upper?

Also, recommendations on a suppressor for a 300 bo?
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Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:11 pm

Caenus wrote:Also, recommendations on a suppressor for a 300 bo?
If you only only only shoot subs through it, most every centerfire pistol can will work. Otherwise:

Huntertown Arms: pretty in an ugly kind of way, the Kestrel 7.62 AK is the budget option.The cans are completely modular. $499 for the 7.62 AK, or $599 for the slightly longer and heavier 308 version.
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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by 91Eunozs » Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:32 pm

Caenus wrote:Can anyone point me towards a decent deal on an 8-10" 300 blackout upper?

Also, recommendations on a suppressor for a 300 bo?
Hard to go wrong with AAC's complete 9" upper... Or build your own. My next BLK build will be a 7 1/2 - 9" lightweight build.

I have a SDN-6 waiting for the tax stamp to clear. If you're thinking of getting a suppressor, don't waste time...wait is 12-15 months right now.
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Post by UndeadInfidel » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:51 am

91Eunozs wrote:I have a SDN-6 waiting for the tax stamp to clear. If you're thinking of getting a suppressor, don't waste time...wait is 12-15 months right now.
Damn. I feel fortunate that I just got my basic three out of the way (22lr, 45acp multi, 30cal multi).
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Post by brothaman » Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:47 pm

I have an opportunity to pick up a DMPS AR upper from a friend who needs cash at a very reasonable price. I won't call it cheap. It just standard carbine length, chrome lined 16" upper. No BCG. Anything in particular to look out for on a DPMS AR? Any reason not to buy? At what price point does the name brand no longer matter?
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Post by prtp3warrior » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:18 pm

Just a question from an AR noob. Would these two purchases get me a complete .556 rifle minus sights?

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http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.ph ... lower.html

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Post by Assault Life » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:34 pm

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Re: All purpose "Help me build my AR" thread.

Post by 91Eunozs » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:41 pm

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91Eunozs wrote:I have a SDN-6 waiting for the tax stamp to clear. If you're thinking of getting a suppressor, don't waste time...wait is 12-15 months right now.
Damn. I feel fortunate that I just got my basic three out of the way (22lr, 45acp multi, 30cal multi).

Ditto... but waiting for the tax stamps to clear on all three. 6 months down...?? to go.

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