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Re: 700 SPS Varmint - Not too bad for the UK...*Now with target*

Post by Hachiman » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:43 pm

Are you adjusting after every shot? Did you buy gloves yet? hows the wind\temp? I take it you checked all base screws and mout screws? Everything solid?

My PSS would group a full box of ammo in 3\4" or less, so your rifle should at least be grouping 1-1.5" groups or less.
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Re: 700 SPS Varmint - Not too bad for the UK...*Now with target*

Post by Big and Daft » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:59 pm

Rilo wrote:That group on the bottom left looks pretty damned good, save for the flyer. Which shot was the flyer in that 5 round sequence?
Honestly I can't remember, I will be doing exactly the same tomorrow and will post the new target and try and remember what order I shot in.

Hachiman wrote:Are you adjusting after every shot? Did you buy gloves yet? hows the wind\temp? I take it you checked all base screws and mout screws? Everything solid?
My PSS would group a full box of ammo in 3\4" or less, so your rifle should at least be grouping 1-1.5" groups or less.
I keep aiming at the same spot for each shot and don't touch the scope. I have some gloves, but forgot them last week. Do they matter? It was a bit windy, but not that bad and the tempreture was mild, I had a t-shirt and base layer on, i'd guess at 14C/57F. I'll go and double check all the screws on the mounts and scope now and make sure they are nice and tight.
With some luck it'll shoot better tomorrow.

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Re: 700 SPS Varmint - Not too bad for the UK...*Now with target*

Post by Brit-ZedHunter » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:26 pm

I got my variation for .308 through by the way dude. I have been talking to the guys at SYSS about getting either a PSS or AICS rem700.

Just waiting on pricing :D
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Re: 700 SPS Varmint - Not too bad for the UK...*Now with target*

Post by Big and Daft » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:34 pm

Good for you - how long did your variation take BTW? AICS would be the dogs danglies, but you can always upgrade at a later date. Are you still trading in your Marlin or getting the .308 as well?

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Post by Brit-ZedHunter » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:33 am

I think I will trade in the Marlin. Not for any licensing reasons but just because I don't use it much so may as well let it contribute towards the new rifle which should mean I can stretch to the AICS.

I posted my varation last Monday (6th April). I have been patiently waiting but not heard anything so I phoned them yesterday to ask 'if they received my application'. They said they had it and were waiting for x person to call me as he had some queries. I told them this week would be good because im off work and can speak to him anytime any day whereas next week I will be in Berlin. Apparently the guy was on holiday but she got the Firearms Licensing Manager to call be back within half an hour.

Once I got speaking to him he wanted to know why I had applied for two different rifles in 7.62. I tried to explain that 7.62x51 and 7.62x39 were not really the same but he wasnt having it so I ended up sort of bartering with him. Anyways, to cut a long story short he agreed to give me S1 shotgun, 7.62x51/.308 and .303. He said I should have my license back by the end of this week. So in total 2 weeks ish. If I hadn't have chased it could easily have been the end of next week.
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Re: 700 SPS Varmint - Not too bad for the UK...*Now with target*

Post by Hachiman » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:59 am

Big and Daft wrote:
I have some gloves, but forgot them last week. Do they matter?
Just checking, on the op you said it was cold. I try and be as comfortable as possible when sighting in. Looking forward to the next range report.
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Re: 700 SPS Varmint - Not too bad for the UK...*Now with target*

Post by Big and Daft » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:33 am

Right, just got back from shooting and now my rifle is shooting 5 inches high and 8 inches right and I have run out of adjustment on the scope. This has been an ongoing problem since I bought it and last week was the only time it was shooting straitish.
I'm getting very annoyed with it now and can't seem to find out why its like this. In the past i've turned the scope rings around and swapped them from front to back and it didn't make a difference, i'm at a loss as to what to do now, where do I go from here?
I did shoot a quick 5 shot group and it was still about 3 inches.

Do I need to buy new rings/mount or even a scope or just sell it and buy a different rifle?

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Re: 700 SPS Varmint - Not too bad for the UK...*Now with target*

Post by Brit-ZedHunter » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:20 am

The rifle should be good. Have you spoken to SYSS about it ? If you take it in maybe they can identify the problem by just looking?

Maybe the action / barrel isnt in the stock properly and there some sort of wobbling going on? Either that or the scope / rings as you say. Is your bipod mounted on the sling swivels or is it attached to the barrel with a clamp thing?
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Re: 700 SPS Varmint - Not too bad for the UK...*Now with target*

Post by Coal-Cracker » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:06 pm

My bet is on the scope or possibly the mount.

That rifle should shoot better groups than that, given you do your part.
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Re: 700 SPS Varmint - Not too bad for the UK... UPDATE 14/5

Post by Big and Daft » Thu May 14, 2009 10:36 am

So, I don't get chance to shoot this rifle very often, but I knew I would be going today so last night I took the scope off and replaced it with a Bushnell 3-9x40 that my dad had spare.
Off to the range I went and it was bleedin' windy, constant wind of about 40mph and gusting to 60/70mph.

After sighting in my new scope I shot ths target:
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I shot it, top left, top right, bottom left and bottom right.
I'm much happier with my rifle now as I didn't run out of adjustment on the Bushnell like I was doing with my Hawke scope and my groups seemed better (considering the very stong winds, mostly blowing right to left) I will have another shoot with it next week and see if its still shooting about the same.


Do I need to send my scope back to the company I bought it off and get it changed for something else? I bought it from http://www.opticswarehouse.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for about £135, should I swap it for the same model of scope or is there anything better I could get from that site for the same type of money?

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Post by 1EyedDeath » Thu May 14, 2009 10:57 am

Are those groups still at 100 yds..Can you pull it back to 50yds??

If you can and your groups tighten up dramaticly at 50,its all you at 100
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Post by Abacus » Thu May 14, 2009 11:00 am

Cool rifle, a chum and I just both bought that exact model, although we're going to some Accuracy International work done on them.
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Post by Big and Daft » Thu May 14, 2009 11:14 am

1EyedDeath wrote:Are those groups still at 100 yds..Can you pull it back to 50yds??

If you can and your groups tighten up dramaticly at 50,its all you at 100
Yes that target was shot at 100 yards. My range is going to opening a 50 yard range but it will be a gallery shooting range - so standing only.

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Post by 1EyedDeath » Thu May 14, 2009 12:43 pm

Standing only as shooting off hand??

if so,why not bring a blanket and a sand bag or two to put that bipod to use??
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Post by Big and Daft » Thu May 14, 2009 12:48 pm

At 100 yards its prone only, I use a bipod with this 700. The new 50 yard range will be standing only (as far as I know).

I've only shot this rifle prone with a bipod.

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Post by 1EyedDeath » Thu May 14, 2009 2:24 pm

have you used any sand bags under the rear of the stock to steady it??sorry for all the questions..
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Post by Big and Daft » Thu May 14, 2009 3:24 pm

Don't worry about the questions, i'm eager to learn. No sand bag just the bipod, I may buy a sandbag (or possibly a monopod) for the rifle. I will be going shooting next thursday and with a bit of luck it won't be quite as windy and I will shoot better, i'll also try and find a support for the rear of the stock.

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Post by colinz » Thu May 14, 2009 8:55 pm

Big and Daft wrote: At 100 yards its prone only, I use a bipod with this 700. The new 50 yard range will be standing only (as far as I know).

I've only shot this rifle prone with a bipod.
Take the bipod off. Seriously. Use a sandbag/sling combo. I guess that you rifle bounces ont he bipod too?

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Post by 1EyedDeath » Thu May 14, 2009 9:37 pm

oh,forgot..you did mount the scope for a correct paralax right??
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Post by Coal-Cracker » Fri May 15, 2009 6:01 am

Big and Daft,
Your rifle is more than capable of shooting nice, tiny groups. I've been more than happy with the factory barrel on my Rem 700P; which is essentially the same barrel you have. I just recently started reloading for it and my groups have gotten even smaller.

Here's a pic of a 5 shot group (yes, there are 5 shots there, it only looks like 4 in the scan) I shot last weekend. This was the first group I shot, so the farthest shot on the right (opening up the group a bit) was a cold-bore shot. It measured a .46" center to center. Quarter thrown in for scale.

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Post by Big and Daft » Fri May 15, 2009 8:27 am

colinz wrote:
Big and Daft wrote: At 100 yards its prone only, I use a bipod with this 700. The new 50 yard range will be standing only (as far as I know).

I've only shot this rifle prone with a bipod.
Take the bipod off. Seriously. Use a sandbag/sling combo. I guess that you rifle bounces ont he bipod too?
It does bounce quite a bit after i've fired a shot. By sandbag do you mean something like this? And my scope is set up fine, no problems.

Coal-Cracker, thats a very nice group. I'll be a very happy chappy when I can shoot a group even remotely similar to that.

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Post by FreuderLocks » Fri May 15, 2009 10:33 am

I love my SPS, you will learn to hate that stock, just as i did though. Nice rifle, I use Prvi also, very accurate, i can get sub MOA groups @ 100 yds easily with nothing more than a bipod, stock scope and a thumbhole stock. This rifle will take you almost anywhere you want to go with it. Have FUN!
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Post by 1EyedDeath » Fri May 15, 2009 11:37 am

yeah they will work..you can make bags out of sand and legs from old jeans if you have to..

for lack of a better pic,
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this is the effect your after..A nice 3 point solid rest..it will take a bit of positioning to bury the weight of the rifle into the bag and be on target..Mo this is the best why to zero a rifle ,prone with a bipod..It needs to be a solid rest..After you get the groups your after then go for a mono pod..And other shooting postions..

gntile but firm,with the weight of the rifle ""in the bag''..And dont be afraid to have your left hand on top of the scope with a bit of downward pressure..

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Post by colinz » Fri May 15, 2009 8:58 pm

Big and Daft wrote:
colinz wrote:
Big and Daft wrote: At 100 yards its prone only, I use a bipod with this 700. The new 50 yard range will be standing only (as far as I know).

I've only shot this rifle prone with a bipod.
Take the bipod off. Seriously. Use a sandbag/sling combo. I guess that your rifle bounces on the bipod too?
It does bounce quite a bit after i've fired a shot. By sandbag do you mean something like this?
Yup, that sort of thing, but as the poster above me said, just make your own. A heck of a lot cheaper. :)

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