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Which SKS should nfa buy

"New" - $239
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40%
"Excellent" - $199
7
23%
"Good to Very Good" - $139
11
37%
 
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SKS Specific C&R Philosophy Question

Post by Jamie » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:09 am

I got my C&R a while ago, and was waiting to see how the tax season turned out before making my first C&R decision and purchase, and now that it's over (and went well :P ) I'm ready to have my new firearm delivered to my door...

The question is...given that it's a surplus rifle to begin with, do I buy one in "New" condition for $239, one in "Excellent" condition for $199, or one in "Good to Very Good" condition for $139?

I can afford any of the 3, that's not the point, but who likes to spend more than they have to...my question to those in the know is whether or not it is worth it to spend an extra $100 for a "New" SKS as opposed to one rated "Good to Very Good"...or do you go for the one in the middle?

Part of me is tempted to spring for the best one out there, but another part of me argues right back that since this is a surplus rifle already and isn't supposed to be a tack-driver, I should just buy the cheap one and live with some wear...

Please explain your answer/opinion...

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Post by wester » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:12 am

Voted G/VG. That way you can buy two! :shock: :D

I've yet to see a 59/66 on the market that I wouldn't want.

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Post by Obiwan » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:14 am

Simple answer is

Buy Mine

Do I need to explain that?????

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Post by Jeriah » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:59 am

If you plan on making this a collector's item and never firing it, buy the new one. This isn't something I'd do, but some people are into it. There's little point, IMHO, in buying a "new" gun and then depriciating its value by 20-30% the first time you pull the trigger.

For a shooter, I'd tend towards the cheaper, but I'd want to examine it first. Check the bore and action parts for rust or pitting. Usually they're fine.
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Post by Jamie » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:10 am

Thanks for the post Jeriah...

I am interested in buying it for shooting, not for collecting...

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Post by Abacus » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:41 am

I also am a C&R, my suggestion: Buy the cheapest grade available. There really isn't anything "collectible" about an SKS, it's a workhorse firearm. As long as it is intact and functional I doubt you'll notice the difference, and certainly not to the tune of and extra $100. That money would better suit you spent on ammo or accessories.

If you plan on tricking it out, which I don't recommend, and not because it's "defiling a great piece of history" because it's a cheap ass surplus rifle, there are millions like it so you aren't robbing the world of a treasure; but because the SKS is really fine out of the box. That was part of the whole point of the SKS (and lots of other surplus firearms). In my opinion, the only accessories needed are a sling, cleaning kit, lots of strippers and something to carry them in.

Given how cheap they are (I got my Yugo as a gift from my boss, but they were $80.00 at the time), and how old it is, I often overlook mine when choosing what to take to the range, compared to the Armalites, AK, FALS and all that lot. It took my wife, who adopted my SKS as her favourite rifle, to remind me what a pleasure it is to shoot.

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Post by Abacus » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:42 am

Hey Obiwan,

Wat do you want for it? I've been thinking of getting one as a trunk rifle.
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Post by maetsack » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:09 pm

Assuming the difference between the 3 is cosmetic and not functional, get the least expensive one and get two.

Who cares what it looks like anyway :D

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Post by Hoppy » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:47 pm

i got a "New" yugo and it sure is pretty. essentialy you have to ask yourself how much you want to spend. the differance between the condition is a matter of individual rifles. i say go "excellent " or "New"
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Post by Grin Reaper » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:00 pm

Jvandenhaus wrote:There really isn't anything "collectible" about an SKS, it's a workhorse firearm.
True dat.
The question is...given that it's a surplus rifle to begin with, do I buy one in "New" condition for $239, one in "Excellent" condition for $199, or one in "Good to Very Good" condition for $139?
Depends on who's doing the grading. Some dealers are very optimistic when it comes to grading C&R firearms; some (Classic Arms, for instance) are quite realistic and fair in grading.

If you're buying FTF, not an issue. If you're ordering from a website, I'd stick with dealers like Classic Arms or Southern Ohio Gun.

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Post by wildbill » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:13 pm

wester wrote:Voted G/VG. That way you can buy two! :shock: :D

I've yet to see a 59/66 on the market that I wouldn't want.
thats what i would do

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Post by Woods Walker » Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:11 pm

I would vote for new all things being = however not all SKS's are the same. I like my USSR hardwood better than my China SKS.
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Post by Toad704D » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:20 pm

I'd go with the "NEW" SKS if you don't mind paying the $$$ for it. Less wear on the parts, mainly. I bought one a couple of months ago, and I love it. Cost me about 250$. Haven't had a problem with it. Plus a bayonet is cool. Gets me a lot of looks and questions at the range. Stripper clips are a bit of a pain, but way cheaper than mags and no big deal if they get messed up or lost. I can fit 7 fully loaded clips (10 rds. each) in a standard A.L.I.C.E. M16 ammo pouch without any crowding. Very efficient.
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Post by mk_ultra » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:28 pm

Since you say you can afford it , seeing that it is your first , I say get the pretty one... :D


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Post by mantis » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:46 pm

I'd say split the difference and get an "excellent condition" rifle. Which nationality are these rifles? Chinese? Russian? Yugo? I own a Chinese SKS that I paid $149 for and it was basically "like new" with all matching serial numbers, an excellent chrome bore, acceptable sights and unblemished furniture. Russian or Yugo made rifles will usually sell for $20 - $40 more but I've never seen one anywhere selling for more than $199 (Canadian$ - not that there's much difference these days).
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Post by zombie_mike » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:13 pm

Get the cheapest one you can, bc the action will be, most likely, just fine.

I find that restoring the stock is a fun exercise anyway.

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Post by Trioxin » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:32 pm

If you are talking about J&G, the $139 are sold out. All they have left are the $199 and the $229.
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Post by ZScott » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:48 pm

Get the new one. I did and have not regretted it. I also have a used shooter sks. But I you get the new one. It will be yours and not a hand me down. Plus it looks cool. Everyone has a beat up sks, some are better then others. But nothing draws looks like a mint sks. :shock: :D :wink:
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Post by karlsgunbunker » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:47 am

First Don't buy a Yugo.
To much extra junk, unless you have a supply of NATO rifle grenades.

Check the SKS Boards, Gunbroker, Auction Arms, or Local Pawn Shops.
Look for a Russian or Chinese, these have chromed chambers and bores, the yugo's don't. Not to mention the Gas Valve, trouble in the making.

If possible get a Norinco D or M model, they use AK mags.

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Post by awe4fire » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:56 pm

well i bought a good to very good for $79 a couple of years back.

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Post by Sol Invictus » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:06 pm

I purchased a brand new one four years ago. It looked as if it was only test fired and took a couple of hours to clean the cosmoline out of the barrel, stock, and action.
The Yugo SKS feels and shoots like a FN-49. It's completely unlike the Chinese, Albanian, or Russian models because it's ergonomics and size are more like a main battle rifle than a carbine. For the record, the little rifle is a tack driver and shoots better than any of the Chinese SKS carbines I've owned. The grenade launcher acts as a muzzle brake/compensator and the rifle has negligible recoil.

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