How do you treat your guns during training?

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Do you like it gentle or rough?

She's my safe queen so I treat her like a princess!
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Used, but gently.
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You fight like you train so if it gets scratched - so be it!
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How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by Arch » Tue May 05, 2009 8:42 pm

Do you baby your guns or train hard with them? Does it bother you when they get scratched up?
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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by Heartless51 » Tue May 05, 2009 8:45 pm

I don't cry if they get scratched but I also train to protect my weapon as I'm fighting.

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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by Maeklos » Tue May 05, 2009 8:47 pm

I voted for "Scratch that bitch!". I mean, if a weapon is going to fail because of how you trained with it, then it sure as hell would've failed if it really mattered. Better you find out in a safe environment than when your life is on the line.
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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by Dave_M » Tue May 05, 2009 8:52 pm

Bother me if my training guns get scratched up?
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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by misanthropist » Tue May 05, 2009 8:54 pm

For the first year or so of owning a gun I am usually kind of gentle with it...by then I usually have enough new stuff that it makes it into my "combat rotation" and I use it hard. But, I am also someone who protects his tools when possible. I will wreck any gun rather than get myself seriously hurt, but if I can do things without wrecking my gear, well, I would rather do it that way. I won't have anyone to replace it in the field, and so if it gets seriously smacked up, I might be SOL.

I do know a guy who chucks his guns around like they are just solid blocks of steel. He has a glock that looks like it went through a blender because he has tap-racked it a million times one-handed on cinder-block walls and concrete curbs. He is also one of the best trained people I know.

I also know a guy who is similarly skilled, and whose guns are in worn but very nice condition. So I don't think that there is necessarily a correlation between the condition of your guns and the level of your training.
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Post by AgentBlack » Tue May 05, 2009 9:05 pm

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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by Abacus » Tue May 05, 2009 9:13 pm

I do have one safe queen, but it's a pistol I carried as my CHL for a decade or so, so it's earned a rest. Otherwise, mine are all "working" weapons. They show signs of use, some abuse. They're not supposed to be pretty, they are supposed to be scary.
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Post by phil_in_cs » Tue May 05, 2009 9:49 pm

I don't worry about scratches, but I do worry about knocks that would effect the zero.
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Post by vyadmirer » Tue May 05, 2009 10:06 pm

I run an AK so my vote was a little unfair..... the uglier the better :twisted:
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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by Trebor » Tue May 05, 2009 10:38 pm

My "training guns" and "self defense guns" are tools. I take care of them, as I would any tool, but they are expected to get wear from use.

My Glock 19 is really my biggest "beater gun" as I honestly don't give a Damn what happens to it. If I'm taking a training class where I might have to literally drop the gun or expect it to get more banged up then normal, that's the gun I pick. I also have that as the first gun I loan out to students who need a gun. As far as I'm concerned, it's near disposable as I have no "pride of ownership" invested in it at all.

Now, my collectable guns, like my Swede Mauser, Garands, or WWII P-38, do get babied. But, they aren't in my "defensive gun rotation" either.
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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by colinz » Wed May 06, 2009 1:09 am

Umm, I don't really do any 'training' as such with my rifles, but the ones that get used for hunting certainly don't get babied (kinda hard to baby them when you ass up on a hill and land ON the gun). :lol:

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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by MacabeeSicarius » Wed May 06, 2009 9:48 am

i like dedicated training guns - duplicates of my go-to sidearm and carbine.

the go-to weapons still get shot, of course....just at a lower round count.

i guess that makes me "used, but gently"

my rationale is: parts will wear out, i'd rather not have it occur whilst on a two-way range.
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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by failure » Wed May 06, 2009 10:14 am

When I started buying weapons a few years ago I tended to baby them. Told myself I was protecting my investments. Now I realize that they're just tools. Chicks dig scars, weapons will show use. No biggie. Just keep an eye on the worn spots on your finish, make sure to wipe down after handling to prevent corrosion.
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Post by Arch » Wed May 06, 2009 10:21 am

MacabeeSicarius wrote:i like dedicated training guns - duplicates of my go-to sidearm and carbine.

the go-to weapons still get shot, of course....just at a lower round count.

i guess that makes me "used, but gently"

my rationale is: parts will wear out, i'd rather not have it occur whilst on a two-way range.
I do the same thing with my "GoTo" Defensive Firearms...

* I "break in" or "wear in" my go-to guns to insure reliable function, zero, etc.
* I "train" with a duplicate or near duplicate.
* I periodically shoot the go-to guns to verify zero.

This is to keep the round count / wear down on my primary go-to guns. I want them to have as much service life remaining as possible if I ever have to INCH with them.

My "training guns" are tools, and tools show wear. I don't go out of my way to hurt them, but stuff happens.

My daily carry guns are a cross between the two. They, by definition, get used everyday....so wear is inevitable. I also shoot them more than "safe go-to guns", but personally wouldn't want to carry a 15,000 round count sidearm for defense.

Since I only use a limited number of weapons types (more Manual of Arms than I should use, but not as many as some)...it helps keep the overall condition of my primary defensive battery in high standard.
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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by donjulio » Wed May 06, 2009 10:53 am

My "go to" weapons are well used and they look it.
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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by Paladin1 » Wed May 06, 2009 10:55 am

I don't have "training" guns or "safe queens". I have a battery of guns that are my goto's, that I use for everything. Break'm down, clean and check periodically. When parts start to wear out I replace them.
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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by Mags » Wed May 06, 2009 12:04 pm

They're tools bro, run'em hard and wet. I don't abuse them though. That would be counterproductive to quality training. Scratches, hit with some more Krylon.....
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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by crypto » Wed May 06, 2009 12:18 pm

I went to training last year and we did an 'injured shooter' drill where we had to clear a malfunction one-handed. This involved racking the slide with our boot, and it had been raining for about 3 days so we all had tons of crap on our boots.

The guys who had the $1500 1911's were aghast at the concept and got yelled at by the instructor for bringing a gun like that to training if they were going to be pussies about them, but then they proceeded to run under shelter and break them down and clean them after the drill anyway.

Meanwhile, I got an approving nod for washing the clay out my Glock by swishing it around on top of an oil drum that had collected rain water and shoving it back in the holster.

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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by failure » Wed May 06, 2009 1:12 pm

Nice crypto. Those primadonnas are silly ones.
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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by Hatch » Wed May 06, 2009 2:11 pm

Like all the tools I own, I take good care of my guns by cleaning and maintaining them, and I don't go out of my way to damage them. But I do work them like a mule with zero regard for scratches or dings. I don't have "training guns," anymore than I have "training screwdrivers." If I've got a tool that isn't up to the job, I'll find a better tool - and, I'd rather know about that defect when finding a replacement is still an option, and not when my life depends on it. So I train with what I use, and use what I train with. And when it wears out, I repair it or replace it.

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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by Dark Angel » Wed May 06, 2009 3:30 pm

all of my firarms are go to guns. I train with my bug out rifle and as such it is scratched and dinged up.
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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by Sckitzo » Wed May 06, 2009 3:40 pm

I've beat this shit out of my work rifles but haven't attended any classes where I've been allowed to use my own stuff.

I'm in the boat of their just tools. Sure I spend a lot of money on em, but whats the point of paying for that fancy training, which chances are is also a lot of money, if your not putting 100% into it.

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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by SimonZayne » Wed May 06, 2009 3:45 pm

I have both.
My pretty blued and wood rifles get treated with kit gloves.
My synthetic and stainless rifles get used but not abused.
My 'go to' weapons... eh, they get what they get.

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Re: How do you treat your guns during training?

Post by MICKPORNO » Wed May 06, 2009 3:55 pm

my competition guns get beat up and abused....but i keep them in working order. the family heirlooms get babied...

hunting rifles and such just get treated like what they are...tools.
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