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Re: Firearms Chat 5: #pewpewlife

Post by RickOShea » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:04 pm

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RickOShea wrote:Ruger 10mm, Kimber long slide 10mm, Ed Brown long slide 10mm, Hi-Point 10mm carbine.....guess er'rybody gonna go 10mm crazy for 2018. :ooh:
YAY! I do love 10mm! I just found out about MagTech carbines that you that can connect to 1911 frames, Glock frames, and Springfield pistol lowers they seem to perform well on videos I've found. I'm still waiting for a lever action 10mm! :awesome:
RPP will convert a Marlin '94 to 10mm/.40 S&W for you.....but I think it's around $1500....not including the donor rifle. :crazy:

Also, are you referring to the Mech Tech CCU? Those have been around for 20 years or so. They should have all the kinks worked out by now. :ooh:
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Re: Firearms Chat 5: #pewpewlife

Post by Halfapint » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:17 pm

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RickOShea wrote:Ruger 10mm, Kimber long slide 10mm, Ed Brown long slide 10mm, Hi-Point 10mm carbine.....guess er'rybody gonna go 10mm crazy for 2018. :ooh:
YAY! I do love 10mm! I just found out about MagTech carbines that you that can connect to 1911 frames, Glock frames, and Springfield pistol lowers they seem to perform well on videos I've found. I'm still waiting for a lever action 10mm! :awesome:
RPP will convert a Marlin '94 to 10mm/.40 S&W for you.....but I think it's around $1500....not including the donor rifle. :crazy:

Also, are you referring to the Mech Tech CCU? Those have been around for 20 years or so. They should have all the kinks worked out by now. :ooh:
Yeah, I was looking at that exact conversion, but not willing to spend nearly 3k or so on a converted rifle. Yes, that's it Mech Tech CCU, I actually saw the it on facespace and after that their website was down. Started looking at YT videos of performance and the kinks seem to have been worked out from earlier versions. I saw some pretty nasty reviews from some of the early stuff.

I'd be interested in that Hi-Point 10mm carbine as well. I'm sure it'll be ugly, heavy, but I've always liked the Hi-Point carbine after shooting the 9mm. Just wish they put out an extended mag (but I cant complain to much, glock doesn't put out an extended mag for the 10mm).
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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:30 pm

Halfapint wrote:
RickOShea wrote:
Halfapint wrote:
RickOShea wrote:Ruger 10mm, Kimber long slide 10mm, Ed Brown long slide 10mm, Hi-Point 10mm carbine.....guess er'rybody gonna go 10mm crazy for 2018. :ooh:
YAY! I do love 10mm! I just found out about MagTech carbines that you that can connect to 1911 frames, Glock frames, and Springfield pistol lowers they seem to perform well on videos I've found. I'm still waiting for a lever action 10mm! :awesome:
RPP will convert a Marlin '94 to 10mm/.40 S&W for you.....but I think it's around $1500....not including the donor rifle. :crazy:

Also, are you referring to the Mech Tech CCU? Those have been around for 20 years or so. They should have all the kinks worked out by now. :ooh:
Yeah, I was looking at that exact conversion, but not willing to spend nearly 3k or so on a converted rifle. Yes, that's it Mech Tech CCU, I actually saw the it on facespace and after that their website was down. Started looking at YT videos of performance and the kinks seem to have been worked out from earlier versions. I saw some pretty nasty reviews from some of the early stuff.

I'd be interested in that Hi-Point 10mm carbine as well. I'm sure it'll be ugly, heavy, but I've always liked the Hi-Point carbine after shooting the 9mm. Just wish they put out an extended mag (but I cant complain to much, glock doesn't put out an extended mag for the 10mm).
Doesn't Kriss make a 10mm version of their Vector rifle and pistol ?

If they do, it probably won't be long until they make a mag conversion kit like they do for the .45 ACP Glock mags.

And I kind of want one of those Hi-Point 10mm carbines as well. Although, I might pick one up in either 9mm or .45 since I don't stock 10mm right now and I'm trying to limit how many different calibers I stock.

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Post by MPMalloy » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:51 pm

I looked at Hi-Point when I was choosing my 9mm pistol/carbine combo. If they had made their mags double stack like everybody else, I think I would have chosen them.

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Post by JeeperCreeper » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:30 pm

MPMalloy wrote:I looked at Hi-Point when I was choosing my 9mm pistol/carbine combo. If they had made their mags double stack like everybody else, I think I would have chosen them.
Speaking of HiPoints, magazines, and 10mm...

I have a .45 HiPo Carbeeen. Super awesome... but, when I shoot super duper hot cast boolits out of it, it jams every other round (Underwood 255 grain +PPPPPPP). It's def the bolt velocity being too fast and the mag spring sucking. So I hope they beef up the mag spring in the 10mm for super spicy loads.
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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:33 pm

MPMalloy wrote:I looked at Hi-Point when I was choosing my 9mm pistol/carbine combo. If they had made their mags double stack like everybody else, I think I would have chosen them.
I read something a long time ago about why Hi-Point mags aren't double stack and it basically boiled down to the owner wanted to keep the pistols and carbines 50 state legal. That and he didn't want to have to do a total redesign of the guns to accept double stack pattern mags.

There's an aftermarket company that makes extended mags for the various Hi-Point guns, though. I think it's called "Red Ball" or something like that. I'm not totally certain on the name.

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Post by JeeperCreeper » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:41 pm

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:
There's an aftermarket company that makes extended mags for the various Hi-Point guns, though. I think it's called "Red Ball" or something like that. I'm not totally certain on the name.

You are correct, my shotgun-wielding-primate friend

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Post by Halfapint » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:44 pm

I'm just glad 10mm is getting some attention. It's been around for a while after considering other rounds like 45acp (yes, it's true I don't have a 45), and other mag rounds I looked at loads and saw that you have some comparable stats between .41mag and 10mm, but the 10mm gets more than say 6 shots (15+1 in my case). I know there are after market mags for the Hi-Point but I've read there are a lot of issues.

Next question on my part is, What's the next bolt action caliber should I get? The largest I have is .308, what should I get into that's got substantially more oophf? Until I can find a range with 1k yard/meter I probably wont get anything. But I'd like to get something more powerful than 308. I don't want to start another thread just curious what people think.
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Post by MPMalloy » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:46 pm

Halfapint wrote:Next question on my part is, What's the next bolt action caliber should I get? The largest I have is .308, what should I get into that's got substantially more oophf? Until I can find a range with 1k yard/meter I probably wont get anything. But I'd like to get something more powerful than 308. I don't want to start another thread just curious what people think.
Is .30-06 more powerful? .338 Laupu?

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Post by JeeperCreeper » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:22 pm

MPMalloy wrote:
Halfapint wrote:Next question on my part is, What's the next bolt action caliber should I get? The largest I have is .308, what should I get into that's got substantially more oophf? Until I can find a range with 1k yard/meter I probably wont get anything. But I'd like to get something more powerful than 308. I don't want to start another thread just curious what people think.
Is .30-06 more powerful? .338 Laupu?
.338 Lapua would be fun!!!

But if you're going Long Range. Half, I'd actually look at smaller like the 6.5 Grendel or Creedmoor. But since you don't have a 1,000 yard+ range, I'd go bigger in the "thumper" sense: .45-70. In a lever gun it would be fun!!! Especially if you reload (I think you do, right?)
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Post by woodsghost » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:21 pm

Halfapint wrote:
Next question on my part is, What's the next bolt action caliber should I get? The largest I have is .308, what should I get into that's got substantially more oophf? Until I can find a range with 1k yard/meter I probably wont get anything. But I'd like to get something more powerful than 308. I don't want to start another thread just curious what people think.
And if you feel the need to burn money, look up Cheytac.

But I think .308 is one of the more common rounds used to reach out to 1000 y/m.
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Post by Halfapint » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:40 pm

MPMalloy wrote:Is .30-06 more powerful? .338 Laupu?
From my understanding .308 was the replacement for .30-06. It has similar ballistics to .308 and with modern powders can have a bit more power or whatever you want to call it but it's not enough of a gain to warrant me wanting to get it. I've been thinking .338 lapua that's the way I was heading, or maybe 300win mag
JeeperCreeper wrote:.338 Lapua would be fun!!!

But if you're going Long Range. Half, I'd actually look at smaller like the 6.5 Grendel or Creedmoor. But since you don't have a 1,000 yard+ range, I'd go bigger in the "thumper" sense: .45-70. In a lever gun it would be fun!!! Especially if you reload (I think you do, right?)
Hmm I've thought of getting 6.5 creedmore its got better ballistics to 308. But not sold on it or something much larger like the 338 lapua
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Post by JeeperCreeper » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:54 pm

Halfapint wrote: From my understanding .308 was the replacement for .30-06. It has similar ballistics to .308 and with modern powders can have a bit more power or whatever you want to call it but it's not enough of a gain to warrant me wanting to get it. I've been thinking .338 lapua that's the way I was heading, or maybe 300win mag
.308 will never replace the .30-06. Never. NEVER!!!!! I don't care what the government and NATO says!!!! (breathes heavily in 7.62x63)... just remember... ladies love the extra 12mm on the Aught-Six...

But honestly, I wouldn't go for 300 win either if you have a 308. Both are used to get to a 1000 yards, but 308 is cheaper and less painful to shoot.

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Post by Asymetryczna » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:02 pm

Re: .308Win and .338LM. This will provide you some basics: https://www.swggun.org/338-lapua-vs-308/
The best part about the .338LM as an individual shooter is finding the RUAG 300gr Scenars for under $50 for a box of 10.
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Post by quazi » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:38 pm

I didn't realize Hi-Point was making a 10mm carbine. If they turn out to be good I might have to pick one up.

I don't know, though. I think I'm done buying more firearms for the most part. I've crossed off the stuff on my short list, and between inheriting and being given other things as presents I've gotten to the point where I go years in between shooting some of my guns. That makes me feel kind of sad.

If five years ago someone had told me that some day I'd be saying that I don't want anymore guns I would have called them crazy. :lol:

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Post by Langenator » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:57 pm

RickOShea wrote:Ruger 10mm, Kimber long slide 10mm, Ed Brown long slide 10mm, Hi-Point 10mm carbine.....guess er'rybody gonna go 10mm crazy for 2018. :ooh:
I'm still waiting for the CZ-97B in 10mm.

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Post by RickOShea » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:16 pm

Now they're just getting ridiculous...

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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:27 pm

I'm actually surprised Ruger didn't release a 10mm GP100 first. Though I'm sure it's in the works. :lol:

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Post by w3rdtoyamama » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:58 pm

Halfapint wrote:I'm just glad 10mm is getting some attention. It's been around for a while after considering other rounds like 45acp (yes, it's true I don't have a 45), and other mag rounds I looked at loads and saw that you have some comparable stats between .41mag and 10mm, but the 10mm gets more than say 6 shots (15+1 in my case). I know there are after market mags for the Hi-Point but I've read there are a lot of issues..
I bought a glock 40, even though I had a 45acp. Not carbine, but its hard for me to throw down a lot of money for a carbine in pistol caliber. Esp like the Henry levers.
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Post by quazi » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:24 am

12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:I'm actually surprised Ruger didn't release a 10mm GP100 first. Though I'm sure it's in the works. :lol:
Or even a regular Redhawk. Or maybe an SP101. I'm guessing that it should be able to shoot .40 S&W as well so it seems like there would maybe be a market for a lighter revolver in 10mm.


I'm still waiting on my X-Frame .327 Federal that holds a gazillion rounds. :lol:

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Post by 12_Gauge_Chimp » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:40 am

quazi wrote:
12_Gauge_Chimp wrote:I'm actually surprised Ruger didn't release a 10mm GP100 first. Though I'm sure it's in the works. :lol:
Or even a regular Redhawk. Or maybe an SP101. I'm guessing that it should be able to shoot .40 S&W as well so it seems like there would maybe be a market for a lighter revolver in 10mm.


I'm still waiting on my X-Frame .327 Federal that holds a gazillion rounds. :lol:
I'd actually like to see a 10mm GP100 or maybe even a convertible .357/9mm model like Ruger makes in their single action line of revolvers.


I'd even like to see a .45 ACP version of the GP100.

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Post by quazi » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:56 pm

Classic Firearms has Heritage Rough Rider .22s for $110. I know it wouldn't be as good as the Single Six I regret selling, but for that price I think it would still be a fun toy that would scratch the same itch.

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Post by JeeperCreeper » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:17 pm

quazi wrote:Classic Firearms has Heritage Rough Rider .22s for $110. I know it wouldn't be as good as the Single Six I regret selling, but for that price I think it would still be a fun toy that would scratch the same itch.
I've handled two... they are very nice little guns and my buddy loves his (even if he only shoots it rarely)
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