Hollis wrote:CQB is not the same as HD.
Other than the lack of a team - how is clearing my house (HD) different?
Not being snarky, just curious as to how you see it.
I looked at your comment from several parts.
The first part is Marines, their training and that they operate offensively (generally)
The M16 is a battle rifle, similar to a AR but not the same. Not so much the rifle, but the training of the person welding that rifle. There is a pretty good joke on how the Marines would secure a building VS the other services. Tactics, training and culture. There are reasons why the Posse Comitatus Act was signed. LE's training is not the same as Marine 0311's. Your average LE does not have the same training as LE Swat team.
The difference in offense VS defense. Lots to be discussed there.
As I mentioned in the past there are other variables to look at on deciding the best firearm for HD. For those who have trained and got all of the certificates, room clearing is probably better lest to them.
The choice of the rifle, again the most important factor, IIRC, is the person holding it.
We are talking about a home, how big is your home? There issue of the penetration power of the round does becomes a issue. One guarantee in shooting, is that a person will hit something, maybe more than one something. I would saying training and even luck is a important factor.
Because Marines do it, may not be a good reason for the average civilian doing it. A thought.
I think the other thing is Battle as in CQB. IIRC most self defense exchanges are at a short distance and very few rounds expended. Battles seems to me, imply lots of rounds going down range. Maybe my bias.
Personally, where I live a AR would be just as good as any other firearm. If I am in the kitchen when a intruder presents themselves I would probably grab my cast iron skillet rather than run off to another room.
Those are my thoughts. At this current time, I do not see my HD situation being anything close to a firefight/battle. If I lived in Syria, belt feds would be my choice.
I don't know if it is true or not, but I did find this:
[div]"Police officers responded to a domestic dispute, accompanied by marines. They had just gone up to the door when two shotgun birdshot rounds were fired through the door, hitting the officers. One yelled `cover me!' to the marines, who then laid down a heavy base of fire. . . . The police officer had not meant `shoot' when he yelled `cover me' to the marines. [He] meant . . . point your weapons and be prepared to respond if necessary. However, the marines responded instantly in the precise way they had been trained, where `cover me' means provide me with cover using firepower. . . . over two hundred bullets [were] fired into that house."
The link does not seem to work anymore. I have heard this story before, Maybe bogus, Maybe my google fu is not so good.
@AS556, Nice looking dura coat job.