Appleseeds are great for experienced shooters and newbies a like - good choice. I've been to 3 myself, most recently was last weekend.quazi wrote:Signed up for an Appleseed shoot next month. Trying to decide between taking my AR, or borrowing my mom's 10/22. (My .22 has a tube mag and a 4x scope, so it doesn't seem like a good option.)
I'm leaning towards 10/22 to save money, especially since it's all at 25m. It would be nice to get some instruction on my AR though.
I guess some people take both, but I'm not sure how the training is structured so I don't know how well that actually works.
I would highly recommend taking both, but only bust out the AR if the 10/22 goes down for some reason or, my personal favorite, you manage to shoot a rifleman score and can enjoy some celebratory centerfire action!
As you mentioned, the 10/22 will save you some ammo cost, which is great, but isn't entirely why I'd recommend it. Not sure what you meant exactly by "get some instruction on my AR", but in my experience there is limited instruction on the equipment. They will help the newbies if they need it - "How do I lock the bolt back?" "Where is the mag release?" etc, but that's about it. Majority of the instruction is focused building a stable shooting position (standing, sitting, and prone), establishing a breathing pattern, how to pull the trigger, how to adjust sights/scopes, etc.
I took my first/only rifle, a M&P 15-22, with me to my first appleseed and learned a lot, but the AR-style platform - compared to your basic 22 rifles - is overly complex for what the class is focusing on and really just gets in the way.
Extended magazines get in the way of arm placements (especially prone), the charging handle is likewise a pain (I'm admittedly ignorant of the 10/22 bolt release, but I imagine it's at lease a little more simple), pistol grip detracts slightly for what they are teaching, and it's over all just bulkier.
I've taken my marlin 795 to the last two shoots and have been much happier. Not sure what sights/optics are on your 10/22 and AR, but I'd use this hierarchy to influence your choice:
Iron sights > scope > peep sights > red dot
In general, my shoots have gone like this (in terms of shooting instruction):
Day 1 -
1) safety instructions
2) shoot a redcoat (series of targets to generally gauge overall class skill)
3) shoot a few groups on grind paper, learn to adjust sights and review some basic "shooter errors" that can be seen in the groups (ie. "This vertical string of shots likely is caused by lack of breath control while shooting")
4) learn prone position, shoot some groups
5) learn seated position, shoot some groups
6) learn standing position, shoot some groups
7) Shoot an Army Qualification Test (AQT)
8) Maybe shoot more AQTs, maybe review some basics the class is generally struggling with (ie. class didn't shoot well at all sitting - go back and review it)
9) shoot another redcoat to see how people are improving
Day 2 -
1) safety instructions
2) shoot a redcoat
3) shoot an AQT
4-?) shoot more AQTs, learn and do some other drills (ex: ball and dummy)
??) Learn some known distance shooting info
???) More AQTs
Last) final redcoat