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So, the Big One is all grown up now and headed off in to the world. Only about an hour away at college. College is a weird situation where living on campus means restricted rights and more vulnerability. I went to college after the military and lived off campus. He is going to live on campus (it's free).

Surely we have some recent college grads or students. Any advice? He has already been told to come home if there is a problem.

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So, the Big One is all grown up now and headed off in to the world. Only about an hour away at college. College is a weird situation where living on campus means restricted rights and more vulnerability. I went to college after the military and lived off campus. He is going to live on campus (it's free).

Surely we have some recent college grads or students. Any advice? He has already been told to come home if there is a problem.

Not recent nor in the US but myself and Ad'lan amongst others joined ZS whilst at college (University).

Without getting into politics I'd advise your son to avoid any radical groups on campus, there seem to be A LOT of them around US campuses today and many seem willing to engage in violence (not that he might be involved but knowing that some group plans disruption at the library, well avoid the library). I live in a campus town now (thankfully quiet the hordes are gone for summer) I mean standard stuff applies like don't hang with the wrong crowd. Have a plan in case of spree violence (shooting, stabbing w.e), EDC a small medical kit but make sure everything is in OG packaging.

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So, the Big One is all grown up now and headed off in to the world. Only about an hour away at college. College is a weird situation where living on campus means restricted rights and more vulnerability. I went to college after the military and lived off campus. He is going to live on campus (it's free).

Surely we have some recent college grads or students. Any advice? He has already been told to come home if there is a problem.

Not recent nor in the US but myself and Ad'lan amongst others joined ZS whilst at college (University).

Without getting into politics I'd advise your son to avoid any radical groups on campus, there seem to be A LOT of them around US campuses today and many seem willing to engage in violence (not that he might be involved but knowing that some group plans disruption at the library, well avoid the library). I live in a campus town now (thankfully quiet the hordes are gone for summer) I mean standard stuff applies like don't hang with the wrong crowd. Have a plan in case of spree violence (shooting, stabbing w.e), EDC a small medical kit but make sure everything is in OG packaging.


He won't have time to get involved in weirdo groups (outside of D&D). The kid is driven to be an engineer and other than music, church, tail and scholarly competitions his life revolves around building robots. He is genius smart too, so I figure in ten years we will all be working to service his robot army. The school he is going to is mostly an engineering school so I am not sure if there will be much of an anarchist presence there to cause disruptions.

I got him a GHB last year with the essentials. His school has already had a mass shooting event so they are a little more prepared than other schools, but not by much.

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So, the Big One is all grown up now and headed off in to the world. Only about an hour away at college. College is a weird situation where living on campus means restricted rights and more vulnerability. I went to college after the military and lived off campus. He is going to live on campus (it's free).

Surely we have some recent college grads or students. Any advice? He has already been told to come home if there is a problem.

Not recent nor in the US but myself and Ad'lan amongst others joined ZS whilst at college (University).

Without getting into politics I'd advise your son to avoid any radical groups on campus, there seem to be A LOT of them around US campuses today and many seem willing to engage in violence (not that he might be involved but knowing that some group plans disruption at the library, well avoid the library). I live in a campus town now (thankfully quiet the hordes are gone for summer) I mean standard stuff applies like don't hang with the wrong crowd. Have a plan in case of spree violence (shooting, stabbing w.e), EDC a small medical kit but make sure everything is in OG packaging.


He won't have time to get involved in weirdo groups (outside of D&D). The kid is driven to be an engineer and other than music, church, tail and scholarly competitions his life revolves around building robots. He is genius smart too, so I figure in ten years we will all be working to service his robot army. The school he is going to is mostly an engineering school so I am not sure if there will be much of an anarchist presence there to cause disruptions.

I got him a GHB last year with the essentials. His school has already had a mass shooting event so they are a little more prepared than other schools, but not by much.


It's the tail you need to worry about, young men have been known to do crazy things while chasing it :crazy:
Does he have his own vehicle? He needs to keep the tank from going below half, maybe consider finding somewhere close that he could keep an extra five gallons maybe. This way he should be able to get home if he has to take detours because of evacuations or such.
Any family close to the college? We had a cousin that went to college close to us, understanding was that he could come wait it out with us if he couldn't get home easily.


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Good topic. Mine are all in school out of state. I raised them to keep their heads on a swivel, to use their heads and to keep the faith. (BLUF: Keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds’ worth of distance run, hold on when there is nothing in you except the will which says: ‘Hold on!’). [*Thanks Rudy]

Of course they must worry about deception, war, famine and pestilence, but also about what to do if their mobile hand computer (some insist on calling them phones) were to fail so I must as well. I warned them about heart break; it's nearly always hiding behind a stone wall up ahead, ready to jump out and ambush them like a guileful gollum. I have seen first-hand the extent which major universities will go to in order to protect and safeguard their students, so the natural disaster scenarios don't worry me too much. Many schools have their own power and water and health systems. I have watched and spoken with some campus security and was impressed. Nuclear exchanges and EMP and the like, of course, changes things; however, they know our rally points and that I will leave coded messages somewhere in the 60 pages of John G's speech in a famous book that could bring about world peace if only we were all filthy rich and waved at each other by using the sign of the dollar. I will leave the message in every library that carries the book.

'Anarchist' might be a tad strong, but certainly the 1st Amendment is alive and well on college campuses so most students no matter how guarded will find themselves drawn to political voices, and thus activism of some sort. One must retain hope that it is not one of those groups that gets deferments from serving but advocates for torturing everyone, or argues that all species equally deserve a fair wage and affordable housing. (Think of the cost of individual apartments for ants.) My observations tend to point to localized threats - drinking from an already open container at a party, people that drink to delirium, touchy-feely people in a position of authority, or that one MORAN who is so tired and self loathing that he thinks he can't run the full race.

Robert Penn Warren once wrote, in a Pulitzer Prize winning novel, “How life is strange and changeful, and the crystal is in the steel at the point of fracture, and the toad bears a jewel in its forehead, and the meaning of moments passes like the breeze that scarcely ruffles the leaf of the willow.” I read that book at 16 years of age and memorized that paragraph. I didn't know then why it hit me so hard but I think I am beginning to understand.

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but make sure everything is in OG packaging.


As someone who has lived in university residence for some time and someone who has lived in a school boarding house (as a staff member) I can only suggest the following

1) he should be very careful that anything he has that is legal and acceptable to own is well marked. Things like first aid kits, clothing etc (common sense)

2) he needs to have a good hiding place in his room for the less acceptable stuff. this gets more complicated if he has a roommate (I never did)

3) lock things up to prevent snooping and nicking stuff

As for what his EDC, as light as possible (he still has to carry those textbooks, and they are the most expensive thing in a student's bag normally :lol: )

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I lived in the dorms when I studied Mechanical Engineering at a university very famous for protests. I hope I don't come across as facetious, but seriously: 1) the female:male ratio is very very skewed in engineering; there really isn't too much of a concern there. And 2) there generally is very little time for non school activities such as rallies and protests. Actually it got to the point that it would behoove an engineering student to actually try to make an effort to participate in social activities, as the social connections is usually what drives success after college.

For some semblance of security, have you considered a dorm-centric safe? http://www.deansafe.com/resaforstdoo.html


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I did this 4 times.

You did what you could now you reap what you sowed. You seem an intelligent person and I'm sure you did a great job raising your kid.

All you can do now is reassure and reinforce that it's ok to bail from a bad situation and to NEVER feel bad about calling y'all for help.

Making a campus approved GHB to keep in the car, a great vehicle support kit of parts/fluids/tools, procuring a fuel only gas card for the student, and offering to bury a cache of all the things not approved on campus isn't irrational.

None of the kids took me up on the cache..... :ohdear:

And yeah. They'll pick up all kinds of loony ideas at University. Lucky to you, those fade after they get grounded in employment.

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I lived in the dorms when I studied Mechanical Engineering at a university very famous for protests. I hope I don't come across as facetious, but seriously: 1) the female:male ratio is very very skewed in engineering; there really isn't too much of a concern there. And 2) there generally is very little time for non school activities such as rallies and protests. Actually it got to the point that it would behoove an engineering student to actually try to make an effort to participate in social activities, as the social connections is usually what drives success after college.

For some semblance of security, have you considered a dorm-centric safe? http://www.deansafe.com/resaforstdoo.html


It's tough to explain but he is more an extrovert and leader than than most engineer types. He is normally the one leading activities be it the team or whatever.

I had not thought about a safe, that is not a bad idea considering what his computer is worth, although he is seldom without it.

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store a couple cases of bottled water in room (under bed), weeks worth of food (kept locked in a truck). Maybe rent a storeage unit near the school for bulkier emergency supplies (camping gear, more food, weapons?).

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In what can only be described as a surprisingly coincidental turn of events one of my son's soon to be suite mates requested to store his zombie fighting equipment at our place. What father could say no to a request like that?

He brought them over and showed me they were all cleared and we put them in the safe. He even brought ammo. :clap:

We only live a little over an hour from the school so it makes sense.

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All of the advice looks great and mirrors my experience with my offspring. Do you have a contingency plan nailed down? How your son would get home, what route(s) are safe to walk, communicate without a cell phone or through intermediaries, alternate meeting places and so on. An hour away on a normal day could turn into a day-long trek in some situations.

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Anything small and valuable needs locked up when not in use. His electronics should be encrypted and secured. Have you written down the serial numbers and documented all his expensive possessions?

We plan based on risk, and the most likely "bad thing" to happen is his stuff gets stolen.

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Anything small and valuable needs locked up when not in use. His electronics should be encrypted and secured. Have you written down the serial numbers and documented all his expensive possessions?

We plan based on risk, and the most likely "bad thing" to happen is his stuff gets stolen.


Sound advice we have done that. He is pretty obsessive about his electronics. He just built a new computer I need to ask him about that one.

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You have likely already covered this in terms of basics, but some "I'm sick" hydration in the dorm room, literally, a 6-pack of gatorade and crackers. Our health center gives them out bc the grocery stores are all a hike from the dorms and them going out to the store when they're dog sick isn't good for them or the community. Figure out how the health center works - mostly for the normal getting-so-sick-you-need-to-be-seen or oops-now-I-need-stitches, but also because in the rare event of outbreaks they tend to run the vaccination/prevention/treatment, know how they get info out. (This may mean following them on whatever social media) Know their hours, know the non-campus health resources (eg we're not open on sundays, figure out where you'd go then just in case.)

Ditto your university police - ours send out alerts if certain crimes happen, with details. There's a separate sign-up for emergency alerts (email/text) which is useful (there was a shooting at this intersection, stay away, and then the all clear later, ditto things on fire, ditto the rare hazmat/lab incident). At our school parents & staff can also sign up to get these alerts.

Comms - our university, and I think many others, have gone over entirely to VOIP, which may well go down from overload if something big happens (eg active shooter). There's very little copper wire left. We all know the issues with cell phones and overload. So maybe get involved in or at least make friends with the local HAM folks? Our university also runs a repeater. And whatever other plans you already have to deal with comms.

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I think we have the health aspects covered but it did not occur to me to have some standby hydration type stuff on hand in case of the flu or something. That is a good idea as the flu is pretty common and can get serious with dehydration.

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Good advice for anyone heading to College thesedays : be the Gray Man / Woman. Learn what you came to learn, have friends, enjoy the freedom of not being tied to a job (yet), but blend in and take a step back from the activism. Even being right about something (in the sense of "correct") won't help if that thing goes against the flow.


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I think we have the health aspects covered but it did not occur to me to have some standby hydration type stuff on hand in case of the flu or something. That is a good idea as the flu is pretty common and can get serious with dehydration.


It's great that you have the health stuff covered but you might want to consider a bit extra of some of the more common things to address common college maladies. If he's living in a dorm its a very communal community so things like tylenol and bandaids become common things people ask their friends and neighbors for, and it would be a shame to deplete his own supply.

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Good advice for anyone heading to College thesedays : be the Gray Man / Woman. Learn what you came to learn, have friends, enjoy the freedom of not being tied to a job (yet), but blend in and take a step back from the activism. Even being right about something (in the sense of "correct") won't help if that thing goes against the flow.


He loves working. He did an internship in high school at a local factory programming their robots. They paid him a rather generous wage for an intern but he is worth it.

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Good advice for anyone heading to College thesedays : be the Gray Man / Woman. Learn what you came to learn, have friends, enjoy the freedom of not being tied to a job (yet), but blend in and take a step back from the activism. Even being right about something (in the sense of "correct") won't help if that thing goes against the flow.


He loves working. He did an internship in high school at a local factory programming their robots. They paid him a rather generous wage for an intern but he is worth it.


Sounds a like a good foundation to build on !


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