Zombie Squad

#1 Best gun for home defense, considering stopping power and accuracy forgiveness , = 12g Pump shotgun. Absolutely incorrect, but the shotty myth has been so beaten in other threads that I'm not going to waste my time here. I will agree the shotty is flexible, but so is the right carbine. Pistol is...

Overall, I'm really liking it. I try to keep triple redundancy to water/fire/light/knives. Also - you may have multiple 'fire' items about the pack - but what if you lose the pack? I like to keep items in three distinctly different spots: Pocket pouch: (Filter straw, striker & steel, Gerb exec light...

omega_man wrote:

74 or more wrote:

Uncivilized wrote:3 Small Balloons

Why the balloons?

fishing bobbers

Condoms can be used for that, and hold water better in general.

Interesting stuff. I'm in Florida, so cool place / root cellar is not so much an option. What I'm really looking for is some 'high utility' food. Just a few things, and the more simple/robust the better. Also, if they are 'high utility' that's great too! What might you all recommend considering that...

What do you guys grow? What might be some great basics that are easy to grow, and extend the stored food supply?

#1 Best gun for home defense, considering stopping power and accuracy forgiveness, = 12g Pump shotgun. Cheap, super reliable, ultra effective. Mossberg 500 / Rem 870 basic models just fine and will last longer than you! - Bonus. You can hunt anything that walks, crawls, or flys with one give the amm...

I tested Jumbo w/ pack with my old setup. I'm fine with it. I run the jumbo towards my front anyway because it has all my ready use items and I use the strap to latch it to my belt.

Good question though!

So - at the moment....my To Get List includes:

Katadyn Micro for water
Machete
Radio/Solar power

Those are big items at the moment.

A go clothes bag might be good, as well as a larger pot/kettle/cup. And needle/thread! Those I have no excuse for not doing immediately.

Let me start with the small kit. I bet a small canteen cup could go in there and dramatically expand your water and food options. - Very possible. Or the big bag. I'll keep an eye out for either a good shape or a good price. Due to thier small size, a massonary nail, small fishing kit, Needle and t...

I'm using Catoma Bednet as the tent, with a tarp over top. A Poncho liner is my sleeping bag.

Light, breezy, warm enough...

I'll mention the defense options at this point. The most likely pistol is my Springfield XD.45. It usually rides in the Jumbo concealment pocket, but I have a for holster for the belt also. After that it would depend. For a long haul / low profile trip: Henry Survival .22 tore down / strapped to the...

I would replace the condoms - which I assume are for water storage - with a platy bag. - Noted, but the condoms are great multi-purpose tools. I'm comfortable with bladder, canteen, and nalgene on keeping a good water rotation. But the Platy is noted. How would you boil more than the 500mL of water?...

Full gear? 5 Liters:
- 2L bladder
- 2L canteen
- 1L Nalgene

I'm thinking of upgrading to another 2L bladder. Get's warm here in Florida. Plus, while there is a lot of water around, there are things in the water that bite....

Overall, a lot to like! I have a similar post up right now, so this is on my mind. I see a lot of water, fire, which is good. I would add another knife. One is none, blah blah blah....Noted there are blades on the multi-tool. Not sure how big that Kershaw is . One big utility knife in pack (8" blade...

I have finsihed v2.0 of my Bug Out Gear. (as if this stuff is ever really done...) Anyway, I'm about to take it all on a shakedown run. (again, as if a lot of it hasn't been shook down...). I have learned a lot here, and a lot the hard way (who cares...). So, please take a look, and let me know what...

w3rdtoyamama wrote:Or add a Saiga 12. Not a pump, but its an Ak and a 12ga

I like your thinking here - 12g AK...that's a two-fer. Win-Win!

This has been upgraded a bit since these: http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p76/Aceman_photos/Guns/Jumbo.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p76/Aceman_photos/Guns/Jumbof.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p76/Aceman_photos/Guns/Jumboftkn.jpg http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p76/Aceman_pho...

Ok - much clearer now! The UTG is the Maxped Jumbo copy I believe. Great choice! I have a real Jumbo - but have heard nothing but love for the UTG bags. This appears to be pretty similar to my main bag. I'll make comments The contents thus far: Water: 3x quart freezer bags (water storage) - NO, bad ...

Ok - much clearer now! The UTG is the Maxped Jumbo copy I believe. Great choice! I have a real Jumbo - but have heard nothing but love for the UTG bags. This appears to be pretty similar to my main bag. I'll make comments The contents thus far: Water: 3x quart freezer bags (water storage) - NO, bad ...

My general rule of bugout: One long gun and one pistol per adult shooter.

And...in SHTF, concealability will rule.

That said:

9mm semi
AK-47

or

12g pump
.45 semi

That would cover me & my wife.

In a SERIOUSLY dangerous/combative situation, Add an AK and a .22 to the pairs above.

My first thought would be that it would be much easier to assess if you grouped the items into meaningful categories. Here are my favorites: Water Fire Food Meds Knife Light Navigation Communication Defense Shelter Tools One reason that I'm saying this is because you seem to have a number of general...

Along with my condoms for water containment - I carry a knee hi women's stocking for carrying the water laden condom.

The condom/stocking is a formidable pair in terms of general utility and small packing/light weight. Tons of uses.

Seriously: Select a purpose, level of time to sustain you, and level of comfort. That will decide your bag. 24 hours of bare necessity in the south is a way different bag than 7 days in the winter up north. Like they said - gather the gear, then get the bag (or bags, as i prefer - layers baby!) But ...

Hey now - that LAPD bag is MY MAIN BAG! And it's not my "starter" kit....

Although I do have a very clear and specific purpose for it...so i wasn't just "guessing" about it....perfect price performer for me.