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by Spd164
Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:11 am
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

Mostly, I would like to hear specific reasons why the interaction between the OP and the officers would be considered an investigatory detention. I understand that DarkAxel's attorney said that he felt that it was, but I really would like to understand why . The fact that the OP did not feel free t...
by Spd164
Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:56 am
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

A lot can be learned from Whackpack7's experience. If Whackpack had shut the police down the way the guy in the video had, we wouldn't be having this debate. Ask if you are being detained and why. If the officer says you're not being detained, say "Thank you. Have a nice day." Then LEAVE. Don't eng...
by Spd164
Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:19 am
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: Firearms Chat.....Sans catchy title
Replies: 2378
Views: 85653

Re: Firearms Chat.....Sans catchy title

I just went the opposite direction......Big honkin' .45 ACP. :crazy: http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af242/boomslang45/FNP45.jpg I've never even so much as touched one of these, but I really really lust after one. Just seems like everything a modern combat handgun should be...how's she shoot?
by Spd164
Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:47 pm
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

I'm just trying to point out that your emotional involvement in this issue is impairing your ability to see things for what they are. Nobody is gloating dude, if I'd been wrong I'd have eaten my crow like a man. Nothing emotional on my part. I got one fact wrong. We'll see how this turns out. A ver...
by Spd164
Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:28 pm
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

I'm just trying to point out that your emotional involvement in this issue is impairing your ability to see things for what they are. Nobody is gloating dude, if I'd been wrong I'd have eaten my crow like a man. Nothing emotional on my part. I got one fact wrong. We'll see how this turns out. A ver...
by Spd164
Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:46 pm
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

Oda, you seriously don't believe a pleasant chat could possibly suffice and that only a formal complaint would do? Sent hands free via iThink spinal mounted integrated nerve impulse device Actually no. According to the OP, this was not a consensual encounter, the officers stopped and ran his ID wit...
by Spd164
Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:13 pm
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

So I live in West Virginia, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand we like our guns and most people are easier going than other places. Very rarely do I open carry, and for many obvious reasons, but regardless WV is an open carry state. However today I did. This is because I work occasion...
by Spd164
Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:11 pm
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

Oda, you seriously don't believe a pleasant chat could possibly suffice and that only a formal complaint would do? Sent hands free via iThink spinal mounted integrated nerve impulse device Actually no. According to the OP, this was not a consensual encounter, the officers stopped and ran his ID wit...
by Spd164
Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:51 am
Forum: Handguns
Topic: Handgun for CC/HD
Replies: 43
Views: 3330

Re: Handgun for CC/HD

she actually likes the grip on the smaller guns. We will test them out though to see how she handles the recoil. She has similar criteria as I do. Good personal feel for it and manual safety. The thing is that "feel" is entirely a fucking retarded criteria to purchase a gun because of. It can "feel...
by Spd164
Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:44 am
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

The Supreme Court has ruled on this issue and that ends it. Legally. Except that the OP wasn't detained, stopped, frisked, restricted, or violated. That kinda renders your point moot. But you keep pushing your political agenda bro, and while you're at it why not advertise your particular agendas fo...
by Spd164
Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:25 pm
Forum: Handguns
Topic: Handgun for CC/HD
Replies: 43
Views: 3330

Re: Handgun for CC/HD

Why is it that anytime someone says "I want a gun for my wife/girl/mom/sister/grandma, the suggestions turn to ultra compact, hard to handle, difficult to shoot .380's and .38's? Snubbies, and their semi-auto pocket pistol counterparts, are notoriously difficult to shoot well, easily. Plus, with eve...
by Spd164
Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:27 pm
Forum: Handguns
Topic: Handgun for CC/HD
Replies: 43
Views: 3330

Re: Handgun for CC/HD

S&W Shield if it fits your hand. Great size, easy to shoot and carry. Reasonably priced, and has a manual safety like you are wanting. I've got a sample size of six people I know who own and carry shields. Of those six, two of them have their guns at S&W currently for warranty work. On one, somethi...
by Spd164
Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:03 pm
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

Oh, no discussion of politics! Bad juju to do that hear. This is a discussion on legal aspects of the OP's encounter, with a side order of (one hopes) educational discussion/debate on police powers and procedure, with a hint of how to avoid being taken advantage of. I recommend washing it down with...
by Spd164
Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:32 pm
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

Oh, no discussion of politics! Bad juju to do that hear. This is a discussion on legal aspects of the OP's encounter, with a side order of (one hopes) educational discussion/debate on police powers and procedure, with a hint of how to avoid being taken advantage of. I recommend washing it down with...
by Spd164
Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:43 pm
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

Oh, no discussion of politics! Bad juju to do that hear. This is a discussion on legal aspects of the OP's encounter, with a side order of (one hopes) educational discussion/debate on police powers and procedure, with a hint of how to avoid being taken advantage of. I recommend washing it down with...
by Spd164
Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:14 am
Forum: Handguns
Topic: Handgun for CC/HD
Replies: 43
Views: 3330

Re: Handgun for CC/HD

Not to be a smartass, but why the need for a manual safety? Not to be a smartass, but why the need for a manual safety? I guess I've always used ones with the safety. I have fired Glocks but first and foremost, I'm not comfortable with the ergonomics. I'm around kids a lot, my daughter included. I'...
by Spd164
Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:26 pm
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

Assuming that the officer is going to take it personally is silly. Um, I'm sorry to disagree, but it isn't. My brother complained once when a policeman tapped his bicycle (with his vehicle) at a stop sign. For the next 3 years until we moved out of state, he was stopped at least once a week for som...
by Spd164
Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:46 pm
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

Spd164, you seem to feel that the people in the scenario are all equals. That is like assuming a teacher and a parent are equals. Yes, supposedly they are, but if you piss-off a teacher your child can catch hell for it all year and sometimes for the rest of their time in that school. Same thing wit...
by Spd164
Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:01 pm
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

When it comes down to it, it doesn't matter what the police officers thought. What matters is whether the average citizen would have felt it was a stop or not. Sent from my VS840 4G using Tapatalk 2 Not at all. Just like saying "I feel like I am in fear for my life" doesn't justify lethal force if ...
by Spd164
Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:38 pm
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

Some of us believe that it was a investigatory detention, others believe it was a mere encounter and the OP was free to leave. I'm still in the mere encounter camp, and I'm pretty sure I articulated fairly well why that is. I'm not re-hashing this again. The FACT is that we will never hear what a j...
by Spd164
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:58 am
Forum: Handguns
Topic: Handgun for CC/HD
Replies: 43
Views: 3330

Re: Handgun for CC/HD

Looks like I might have to add compacts to the list given the safety features and rail. Opens up more options/choices for me. But is the extra .5-.85 inches on a compact going to be a hindrance to carrying concealed or is it nearly negligible? Again, I am going to be adding a laser/light and will b...
by Spd164
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:21 am
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

Some of us believe that it was a investigatory detention, others believe it was a mere encounter and the OP was free to leave. I'm still in the mere encounter camp, and I'm pretty sure I articulated fairly well why that is. I'm not re-hashing this again. The FACT is that we will never hear what a j...
by Spd164
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:19 am
Forum: Handguns
Topic: Article: Setting Up a Home Defense Pistol
Replies: 115
Views: 10200

Re: Article: Setting Up a Home Defense Pistol

Dave_M wrote:
BloodLust wrote:a laser or a light on the rail?
Light, no question.
Definitely.
by Spd164
Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:51 am
Forum: Survival Experiences
Topic: First Confrontation While Open Carrying
Replies: 255
Views: 23148

Re: First Confrontation While Open Carrying

Oh sweet baby bleeding heart jeezus did you even read the thread LowKey? This will be the third time (at least) where we are covering the exact same ground. Some of us believe that it was a investigatory detention, others believe it was a mere encounter and the OP was free to leave. I'm still in the...

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