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by hubel458
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:01 am
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Got guys doing various 416 HEs..

One just built a 416 HE, just been testing it a few days..

And using 168gr of HBMG 475 gr CEB, tested it, in good

conditions, 2 shots at 1800 yards and was within

a 1/4 of minute accuracy...A few shots at shorter ranges

had same accuracy. Ed..
by hubel458
Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

20mm Vulcan is a big case that works ok, without having the sides made too thick...They have thinner sides than smaller cases guys are getting that have the sides made too thick and won't extract easy or work with high pressures. Here Barnard P Cheytac bolt that would do for our 416 HSM..Ed...... ht...
by hubel458
Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:40 am
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Wonder if a PTRD with 5 ft long barrel is stable enough for ELR , rebarrel to 416 and use our 416 HSM, 500 gr bullet .... .Here is up north guy using 585 HE in a PTRD with inserts, Light load.....Inserts are in the shape of the 14.5mm case.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyabm-cbwgc&feature=yout...
by hubel458
Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

..... It is possible rig up holders for many types setups., About shellholder supply for big cases, RCBS and others make slip in holders for shotgun cases that can work or reworked for big rimmed rifle cases... Here are various sizes....... 16ga-- .810" rim,........ 20ga-- .760" rim,.... 24ga-- .725...
by hubel458
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Here is picture of our 416HSM cases with screw in, for Ammomaster, etc, and slip in shellholders for regular press Also have some for big LEE Classic and Smart Reloader presses.. A 378 WEA MAG in picture for comparison... Second is stacks of 416 HSM, about a third fireformed and the rest to be firef...
by hubel458
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:09 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Bob Snapp, 90, the great Gun Craftsman, of Clare, Michigan, passed away Jan 28th.... He was an esteemed member of the American Custom Gunmakers Guild, Being its president in 1992..He liked working with Martini Cadet singleshot rifles .Worked with guys testing armor long time ago. Maybe the 1st to do...
by hubel458
Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:42 am
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

In 416 HSM got a 415 gr long target bullet 3800,

with plain barrel, no brake, on intermediate action,

Our 416 HE gets same 415gr bullet to 3300.Ed
by hubel458
Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:16 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Here is video of early water barrel test of the 12ga From Hell, from years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c48zTpsgbuk Here is picture from that video.. http://www.gunownerstv.com/Shot%203.jpg Here is the intermediate size action for 416 HSM with test barrel, .Ed http://www.gunownerstv.com/inte...
by hubel458
Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:13 am
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Here is picture of the bolt from the experimental action, with our 416 HSM case in it. Note the amount of the base size of locking lugs, the amount of area on the bolt.. http://www.gunownerstv.com/interboltp.jpg Here is link to guy doing special 585 HE in the EU, Good pictures............www.585he.c...
by hubel458
Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:38 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Experimental intermediate size action with the Montana PH, for comparison. It is an experimental action for our 416 HSM, to do our speed testing with and get a better action than Cheytac size actions, for bigger case ELR use, without going all way up to more expensive, huge actions. It is big long r...
by hubel458
Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:33 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

About 416 cal bullets............ The heaviest 550 gr for Extreme ELR probably be best 8 to 1 twist , in 416 caliber bullet, and 520 gr 9.5 to 1, and 470gr 10 to one, Some barrels I picked up are 10 to 1....... Now a novel idea is to lighten rear of bullet with small shallow hole drilled in base, mi...
by hubel458
Thu May 10, 2018 10:23 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Here is sectioned 585 HE case in the middle, we first made from another case, years ago before we had factory run of brass and it had perfect thickness on the sides and inside corrner. We could fire them many times without sides thinning.. First case is factory run of our 585 HE, 3rd is case that is...
by hubel458
Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:40 am
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Here is picture of thick 375 case sent to me, with thick sided trex case, and our HE case, The thick 375 case is .050" bigger OD base, but inside is no bigger than HE cases.. These thick sided 375s stuck for the guy using them, when loaded over 44,000 psi.... http://www.gunownerstv.com/brandv.jpg Go...
by hubel458
Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:31 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Guy sent thick sided 375 case, next size base diameter up from Nyati.He said, 'Yes I ran them in a ___________ rifle built by ____, the best I could get was 44000 psi, any more and they were stuck'' Big bore guys. other forums over the years related that trex/african case in 585 size, thick sided ca...
by hubel458
Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:06 am
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Here is a drawing depicting the layout of thick and thin sided cases, like my 585/375/416 HE thin sided ones and the thick one in picture. And my 585 case is not perfect, as where it transitions from the heavier corner to the side it isn't gradual, so case separates there shortening case life. There...
by hubel458
Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:49 am
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

For big long cases our testing is showing that the 416 easier to get powders to work with, less problems .. Maybe building a target gun,don't have 375 barrel all ready, maybe go 416.... We got cases, 416 HE and 416 HSM, as well as 375... CEB and others will have bullets...CEB will be doing .416 in 4...
by hubel458
Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:17 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Here in picture of the cases, are shown the steps in making our 416 HSM case, from BMG brass,, Ed http://www.gunownerstv.com/416process.jpg We might have a company that is doing a bolt gun with an action between BMG size and longer rifle actions used for 375 HE, 375 Lethal, and Cheytacs.. To use for...
by hubel458
Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:08 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Here is recap simple setup to get faster loads with 12ga sabots & slugs, Example using break actions...., reaming chamber in a 12ga break action to 3.5" with a 3.5" 12ga reamer, that isn't something needing special order, and use 3.5" plastic cases , or get 3.5" brass cases made. With mag shotgun pr...
by hubel458
Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:49 am
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

A 585 HE ...shot with moderate heavy load...... https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/20404363_470558053312276_3772630570509533184_n.mp4 Here is a 375 HE target gun set up, by Asteroid Precision... Here is video of it being tested... And with a 350gr bullet about 3450-3475, bolt opened easil...
by hubel458
Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:48 am
Forum: Longarms - Shotguns and Rifles
Topic: 12GA rifle from hell
Replies: 387
Views: 63247

Re: 12GA rifle from hell

A 585 HE ...shot with moderate heavy load...... https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/20404363_470558053312276_3772630570509533184_n.mp4 Here is a 375 HE target gun set up, by Asteroid Precision... Here is video of it being tested... And with a 350gr bullet about 3450-3475, bolt opened easil...
by hubel458
Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:47 pm
Forum: Longarms - Shotguns and Rifles
Topic: 12GA rifle from hell
Replies: 387
Views: 63247

Re: 12GA rifle from hell

Here is case measurements for our 416 HE target case made by necking our 585 HE big belted case. http://www.gunownerstv.com/416heprint.jpg Here is picture of 375 HE left, 416 HE next, 416 HSM on the right.. http://www.gunownerstv.com/pat1.jpg Here, tentative specs, 416 HSM case we are doing from bmg...
by hubel458
Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:49 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

Here is case measurements for our 416 HE target case made from our 585 HE big belted case. Ed http://www.gunownerstv.com/416heprint.jpg Here is picture of 375 HE left, 416 HE next, 416 HSM right.. http://www.gunownerstv.com/pat1.jpg Here, tentative specs, 416 HSM case we are doing from bmg brass, ht...
by hubel458
Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:19 pm
Forum: General Firearms Discussion
Topic: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Replies: 86
Views: 16848

Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --

The 12ga FH case now is in the new COTW book on last page in the wildcat section, I think page 324. They gave good credit to Rob for the idea of that case.... The model 416 HE long case in middle, hydro formed one, has case capacity of 240 gr, and the 416 HSM in picture, on the right, we fired a cas...
by hubel458
Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:17 pm
Forum: Longarms - Shotguns and Rifles
Topic: 12GA rifle from hell
Replies: 387
Views: 63247

Re: 12GA rifle from hell

The 12ga FH case now is in the new COTW book on last page in the wildcat section, I think page 324. They gave good credit to Rob for the idea of that case.... The model 416 HE long case in middle, hydro formed one, has case capacity of 240 gr, and the 416 HSM in picture, on the right, we fired a cas...

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