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I'm new to the "AR-15" world so please bear with me on this I have an AR-15 with the 16" barrel and the short fore-end . I am looking to put a rail on that has the Picatinny rails. My question is- can I put a "Rifle" size fore-end on a short barrel? I've seen them with a long rail that has an opening for the front sight but not sure of what they are. Ideas? Thanks. :?:


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I'm new to the "AR-15" world so please bear with me on this I have an AR-15 with the 16" barrel and the short fore-end . I am looking to put a rail on that has the Picatinny rails. My question is- can I put a "Rifle" size fore-end on a short barrel? I've seen them with a long rail that has an opening for the front sight but not sure of what they are. Ideas? Thanks. :?:




http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Tactical ... ds-s/7.htm

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these 3 from GD4's link specifically fall meet criterion of a cutout for the sight

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Daniel-D ... 0black.htm

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Daniel-D ... %20fde.htm

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Daniel-D ... 010005.htm

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Here's the short layman answer:

Yes, but it's expensive.

Normal railed handguards still "clip on" to the rifle, using the factory delta ring, and the sheet metal bracket right behind the front sight tower.

If you want a rail longer than that, it will have no forward attachment point. So, you'll need a free-float handguard.

These involve removing the factory (spring-loaded) delta ring that holds factory-type handguards on, and replacing it with a large fixed, threaded nut that engages the free-float handguard more firmly, and clamps it against the receiver.

This allows you to hold the weapon by the handguard which is only attached to the rifle on one end, and bang it around, without upsetting the handguards mount.


The obvious question, though, is why you want a longer handguard on a carbine? how much shit are you going to put on the rail system?

If you just want something that projects further forward, like a weapon light, there are many good small rail sections that bolt through sides of the front sight tower and give you about an inch of rail on either side. Midwest industries makes a good one: http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/ind ... gory_id=94


At $35, its far cheaper and lighter than a free-float handguard, and if you're just looking for somewhere to put a light or laser, its a far better solution.

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You can swap the delta ring out and install a yhm rifle length rail. I have and it leaves 4" of barrel out front. It gives you a long sight radius if your using iron sights. Other than that you have a lot of real estate to use. I pitched mine for Magpul moes. I still have a rifle rail on my sons rifle. I'll post pics later.

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thread hijack in progress.

I want this http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Troy-TRX ... 20s3bt.htm

To replace the rails currently on my AR which are heavy as shit YHM rails from 07.

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Regular Guy, GD4: you're missing something important:

He's not removing his existing gas block to mount a low-profile one, and he specifically wants a cutout for his existing A2 front tower. He will not realize any longer sight radius with a rail.

also: god I cant imagine how heavy the YHM rifle rail is. The YHM carbine rail I had felt like a cinder block on my rifle. Went with MOEs for weight.

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I used the lightweight yhm rail on my sons. Between it and the moe rifle is a half pound.

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Take a look at Daniel Defense Omega X 12.0 FSP:

https://danieldefense.com/rail-systems/ ... rbine.html

https://danieldefense.com/rifles/carbin ... ne-v1.html

But do you really have a need for it? Is it to look good or to be able to place your hand further to control the rifle better, attach a flashlight and other accessories?

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Regular Guy, GD4: you're missing something important:

He's not removing his existing gas block to mount a low-profile one, and he specifically wants a cutout for his existing A2 front tower. He will not realize any longer sight radius with a rail. I know and I dont care!

also: god I cant imagine how heavy the YHM rifle rail is. The YHM carbine rail I had felt like a cinder block on my rifle. Went with MOEs for weight.


I also have carried a 203 very extensively so the extra weight did/does not bother me. BUT I only mount a light, sling, and vfg so all that metal is now weight slowing me down.

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@launchteam; This is the one you want if you're not looking into doing a lot of "gunsmithing". The Troy MRF system utilizes the original barrel nut(you just cut away the Delta-ring). Not to expensive either.

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