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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:03 pm 
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Ok, weak search-foo

There was a post not to long ago (week or so) that showed what I thought was book match striker paper.

Of course I can't find it now.

So can anybody point me in the right direction?

Looking to buy some.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:03 pm 
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red phosphorus isn't it? Anyway i would be suprised if you could buy it in quantity without raising red flags as it is used in the production of meth. if you're going to carry matches... i'd carry strike anywhere ones... problem solved. (the trick is finding them of course) They're illegal in some cities.

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http://www.bepreparedtosurvive.com/FirestarterProducts.htm
scroll down to the bottom then go up about 7 items... :mrgreen:


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I spent about $125 with shipping at that website :( . Kinda sucks considering the most expensive single item was probably $8.

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red phosphorus isn't it? Anyway i would be suprised if you could buy it in quantity without raising red flags as it is used in the production of meth. if you're going to carry matches... i'd carry strike anywhere ones... problem solved. (the trick is finding them of course) They're illegal in some cities.

Are they illegal in Mo.? I've never seen them. Also what is'nt used in meth lol.


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Are they illegal in Mo.? I've never seen them. Also what is'nt used in meth lol.


To my knowledge matchbooks aren't illegal. But without getting too specific with the f*cked up dangerous procedures involved in making meth... I read on a law enforcement site that one of the steps involved ripping thousands of striker plates off and and then chemically separating the phosphorus from the cardboard. All i'm saying is if it were possible to buy the chemical in bulk, or say the striker material in large sheets... well, the meth losers would already be doing it instead of taking forever ripping all the little striker plates off. They're clever buggers... that is until they realize that their homeowners policy isn't going to cover them burning the house down cooking drugs.

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Oh wait... you're talking about the strike anywhere matches being illegal... I don't know. I buy them sometimes for my Rochester friends. They cannot be found anywhere in the Rochester area. In Olean the supermarkets and hardware stores all have them. This makes me think it's a local or county wide thing.

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dbruce wrote:
Ok, weak search-foo

There was a post not to long ago (week or so) that showed what I thought was book match striker paper.

Of course I can't find it now.

So can anybody point me in the right direction?

Looking to buy some.

dbruce

Try emery paper

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Why are strike anywhere matches illegal anywhere? Another idiot law.

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LowKey wrote:
Try emery paper


It's called emery cloth.
Try sandpaper also, cheaper and easy to get. Don't think druggers are buying it to make meth?

BTW, You can't mail a book of matches either. You have to use UPS.
And, I can't find anything but "strike on box" matches where I live.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emery_cloth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandpaper

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You can't take or send strike anywhere matches across state lines without paying a Hazmat fee of (I think) 25.00.

The stick on paper used on skateboards will strike matches too.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:57 am 
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bltjr1951 wrote:
LowKey wrote:
Try emery paper

It's called emery cloth.

Only if it's cloth. If its on paper it's, er, emery paper. Emery is just the name of the mineral used in the abrasive grit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emery_(mineral)
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Ok seems that http://www.bepreparedtosurvive.com/Fire ... oducts.htm

Has the stuff I am after (could of swore I saw it on ZS)

Thanks a bunch Necrodamus!

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dbruce wrote:
Ok seems that http://www.bepreparedtosurvive.com/Fire ... oducts.htm

Has the stuff I am after (could of swore I saw it on ZS)

Thanks a bunch Necrodamus!

dbruce


Your welcome....
and for all you folks talking about sandpaper, emerypaper, emerycloth, skateboard tape and everything else thats gritty... you dont know JACK (FECAL MATTER) about book matches or any strike on box or other type safety matches! You all get an "F" in fire knowledge info!


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Necrodamus wrote:
dbruce wrote:
Ok seems that http://www.bepreparedtosurvive.com/Fire ... oducts.htm

Has the stuff I am after (could of swore I saw it on ZS)

Thanks a bunch Necrodamus!

dbruce


Your welcome....
and for all you folks talking about sandpaper, emerypaper, emerycloth, skateboard tape and everything else thats gritty... you dont know JACK (FECAL MATTER) about book matches or any strike on box or other type safety matches! You all get an "F" in fire knowledge info!


Hey Necro, have you ever ordered from them before? They have some pretty neat (fecal matter) to play with.

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and for all you folks talking about sandpaper, emerypaper, emerycloth, skateboard tape and everything else thats gritty... you dont know JACK (FECAL MATTER) about book matches or any strike on box or other type safety matches! You all get an "F" in fire knowledge info!


Go "F" your self.
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actually Ive purchased quite a bit from them and they have good customer service, just stay away from the compasses they sell

their Aqua-Pouch emergency water kit is really cool and super minimal


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Necrodamus wrote:
and for all you folks talking about sandpaper, emerypaper, emerycloth, skateboard tape and everything else thats gritty... you dont know JACK (FECAL MATTER) about book matches or any strike on box or other type safety matches! You all get an "F" in fire knowledge info!



Please pardon me, I’m only 57. I smoked for 30 years, collected match books for 10 years, used sandpaper in my match safe. Could light wooden match with thumbnail to light cigs.
But please enlighten me old wise sage.

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Excellant link 111T!
long story short and for the benefit of the people that didnt read down far enough...
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Their safety is due to the separation of the combustible ingredients between a match head on the end of a paraffin-impregnated splint and a special striking surface, and the replacement of white phosphorus with red phosphorus

In other words... if you strike a safety match on any material that doesnt have the special compound and all you will do is grind off the match head.


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long story short and for the benefit of the people that didnt read down far enough...


Here I thought we were to be amazed by first hand knowledge, not “I read it on the net”.
Well, duh, if you buy “strike-on-the-box” or book matches, you have to use the strike pad.
I put a piece of the strike pad in the match safe to use, or attach it on the outside of case.
If you can buy “strike-anywhere” matches, you can just about strike them on any rough surface to light. By placing a piece of emery cloth or sandpaper in match safe, you’ve got a good surface to strike match.
Cause, sometimes you get a bad batch of matches that don’t “strike anywhere”.
When I was a kid. I saw a guy light a match just by striking it on the leg of his jeans.
My fault for not reading OP's "match book", I thought he was talking about "strike-anywhere" matches, they were mentioned enough. Amish stores sell them also.

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Necrodamus wrote:
long story short and for the benefit of the people that didnt read down far enough...



I think Necrodamus meant for those who didn't read down far enough on the wiki link that i posted. I should have said to scroll down to the safety match section. Sorry.

...Then again who wouldn't want to know everything there was to know about matches? :twisted:

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dbruce wrote:
Ok seems that http://www.bepreparedtosurvive.com/Fire ... oducts.htm

Has the stuff I am after (could of swore I saw it on ZS)

Thanks a bunch Necrodamus!

dbruce


Your welcome....
and for all you folks talking about sandpaper, emerypaper, emerycloth, skateboard tape and everything else thats gritty... you dont know JACK (FECAL MATTER) about book matches or any strike on box or other type safety matches! You all get an "F" in fire knowledge info!



Uhm, he's right... matches light when two chemicals interact (phosphorous and sulphur, if memory serves)... strike anywhere matches have both chemicals on the tip of each match, with a barrier separating them. Scratch them across something, the chemicals mix, and it ignites.

Safety matches _don't_ have both chemicals on each match tip. One's on the match tip, and one's on the striker material.

So, he's right... if you scratch safety matches over sandpaper, all you do is ruin the match. Without the striker material, they will not light.


I just cut circles and squares of the striker material on each side of the safety match boxes, and used those. I managed to fit three circles of striker material up into the caps of the match carriers (and yes, the match tips face away from the striker material). It works. When one circle is worn out, I just dig it out with a knife tip and I'm back in business. There's at least enough to light every match in the container, and more.

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I guess I am strange,
I store the entire match book,
or I just use a lighter to light the match.
neat to know that you can get sheets of the striker paper.

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When we were kids we used to do this.
Rip the filter off a cigarette. Take out the 'fiberglass' filter part out of it's wrapping. Put it on the side of your boot heel, and light it on fire. Once the filter burns/melts, take a matchbook, the real deal, not folding cheapie matches, and put the striker material against the freshly melted filter. Hold in place for a few seconds while the melted filter solidifies against your shoe and the match striker. Rip the striker off. You will be left with the actual matchbook striker stuff 'glued' onto your shoe.
This method can be used to 'glue' striker material to most surfaces. I am not sure if the current matchbooks are the same as 20 years ago, but you can try it for fun.

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