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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:52 pm 
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I am doing some research for my FAK and it sounds like the izzy bandage is a must have. I am curious about the 2 expiration dates on the back of the package. There is a sterile date and an expiration date. Most of the ones on ebay tend to be very close to their expiration. I was wondering why there would be a sterile date, if the item was sterile when packed and the vacuum seal is unbroken? Also, can the bandage be used after the expiration date? Put some sterile gauze and then cover with the izzy? And finally, I would appreciate any suggestions about a reputable dealer and a reasonable price per bandage.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:54 pm 
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Fuck the expiration date.

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Doc Simon wrote:
Fuck the expiration date.

Roger that.
The date's just to cover the company.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:28 pm 
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Agreed. If it ain't opened, it's GTG. Try looking through the links at the "Where to buy medical stuff" thread; I know for sure Chinook Medical, as well as a few others have them. This will give you an idea of the retail price. Then check Ebay for deals.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:59 am 
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Sweet! That make a lot of sense - I didn't understand how something that was sterile when packaged and remains in a sterile environment could then mysteriously lose its sterility???


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I was at a trade show a couple of years ago and I ask a bandage manufacture why they had an expiry date. He said that’s how long they will guaranty the plastic wrapper to stop contamination. Apparently after time the wrapper can degrade and become porous to bacteria / viruses.

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Fuck the expiration date.


Brilliant in it's simplicity and so very true.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:25 am 
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Still though, an emergency dressing need not be sterile, just clean.

Remember, you're not providing definitive care and sealing up the wound forever, you're just trying to get to hemostasis until your patient gets to a doctor. The first thing they'll have to do is remove all your hard work then irrigate, clean, debride, and actually treat the injury. The fact that you didn't have a sterile dressing on there is of little consequence, as long as it's not covered in dirt and poop.

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Still though, an emergency dressing need not be sterile, just clean.

Remember, you're not providing definitive care and sealing up the wound forever, you're just trying to get to hemostasis until your patient gets to a doctor. The first thing they'll have to do is remove all your hard work then irrigate, clean, debride, and actually treat the injury. The fact that you didn't have a sterile dressing on there is of little consequence, as long as it's not covered in dirt and poop.


Big +1

Don't sweat an expiry date, the fact that it was sterile at one point is good enough IMHO.

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crypto wrote:
The fact that you didn't have a sterile dressing on there is of little consequence, as long as it's not covered in dirt and poop.



Eeeeew! Poopy Dressings, FTL! :lol:



Oh yeah, and QOTD'd.....

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Sweet! I didn't understand how something that was sterile when packaged and remains in a sterile environment could then mysteriously lose its sterility???

The same way that a helium balloon goes flat in just a couple of days -- the helium molecules are smaller than the elastomer that the balloon is made of, so they leak out.

Medical packaging, no matter how intact it may appear, will still allow transfer of microscopic organisms at some rate. Granted this process may take several years before any appreciable amount of foreign matter has entered the packaging, but eventually it will reach the point that the manufacturer is no longer willing to claim that the item is sterile.

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Still though, an emergency dressing need not be sterile, just clean.

Remember, you're not providing definitive care and sealing up the wound forever, you're just trying to get to hemostasis until your patient gets to a doctor. The first thing they'll have to do is remove all your hard work then irrigate, clean, debride, and actually treat the injury. The fact that you didn't have a sterile dressing on there is of little consequence, as long as it's not covered in dirt and poop.

Exactly.

People often fail to realize that whatever is was that created the wound in the first place most likely wasn't sterile, so as long as you don't make the situation worse, you're doing no harm.

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