Motorola FRS Radio
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Moonrabbit wrote:Sounds like an awesome kit. As specialy seeing as you keep the heavy stuff in a backpack that could be shed if you needed to. You might consider a small metal pot for boiling water though, even if you have a filter, Good to boil too if you can. Or is that what an SS cup is?
But yeah, get the LED light in there and that's probably the most well rounded kit I've seen. You've got some quality equipment there.
BTW: What tac vest you using?
Ronin556 wrote:Let me start by saying this is an outstanding setup.
I'd venture to say, with little modification, that this is what people should use as a model for what to put together for themselves. Very well put together Hydrogen.
First off, I'm guessing the Stainless Steel Cup is the canteen cup? If so, you might consider bringing along a little light kettle, or some manner of medium sized pot. The logic behind it is; while the canteen cups are great for heating yourself up a drink, they are LOUSY for cooking soup in the field. When you've got a few folks up there with you, you're probably not going to get away with heating yourself up a nice warm beverage while they freeze.
Of course, stupid should hurt, be we're nice, and sometimes outnumbered.
For morales sake, I bought a little "Camp Kettle". It's actually saving me space, since I can pack a bunch of crap into it, and now I can cook soup and actually use the entire packet.
Iron Pans are great, but for a survival ruck, I'd strongly recommend an old circa 1950's mess kit. They are small, aluminum, and durable. They also have a tray, so you can heat on one, and eat on the other. Another good concept if you're the only one who thought ahead far enough to bring cooking supplies. It'll work well for frying meat, but probably not rabbit, because there is no fat. Plus, you can pack a lot of crap in between the pan and the plate here as well. I've got crackers and jam (MRE fixin's) in mine to hold me over until the entree is finished.
As far as the canteens go, I'd outright ditch one, and substitute it for a hydration system on whatever you use for a vest. The logic behind it is, you can distribute the weight more evenly across your shoulders, and carry more water.
Definately keep one, because as I'm sure you know, the cup is good for boiling water, which you can use for drinks or purification. I leave my canteen empty, and my Hydrastorm full on my vest, so if I have to "grab and go", I'll have some water, and the provisions to carry more, without the added 2 pounds of water
The most important thing I noticed was a distinct lack of food. However, I was impressed with the fact that unlike most others, you're ready to go trap your own (smartest idea).
But most critters don't want to die, and it may be a few days before you actually snag one.
If I were you, I'd strip out a few MRE's, and throw the entrees in your pack. I personally carry 5 stripped, and 2 full MRE's. It adds weight, but it's going to go fast. On the ones you strip, keep the cardboard, it'll help you light fires when you need a little extra warmth, or something to cook over. You can never have enough dry fuel!
Last but not least is fishing gear. Snaring line is fine and dandy, but fish are a lot more nourishing, and require a lot less energy to accost. Throw in some line, tackle, and a few bits of weight and bait. Natural bait can be found around the water too, I've had great success (well, small fish, but I usually get one) with perriwinkles. Obviously, nightcrawlers and worms of most sorts are also excellent bait.
Great list Hydrogen, I hope this helps.
Erik wrote:First of all, I doubt your body is a weapon and if you threatened me with your body, I'd pull out a real weapon and see which is more effective.
Bear_B wrote:I am not too worried about the bullet with my name on it... its the bullets flying around with question marks on them that worry me.
ripped0ff wrote:That's a pretty good setup man, but it still needs to be changed around some. For instance, you only list one knife in your BoB as a whole. You need at least one real knife (survival or skinning knife) and one pocket-knife/multitool. There are plenty of things you'll need one for, and the other is just too small or clunky for. If nothing else, you can use a pocket knife in place of standard utensils.
You should also try and pick up an LED flashlight in favor of the maglight, as others have noted. Not only will you have a longer bulb life, but you'll have a longer burn time as well.
I'd give the almonds the heave-ho as well. They're a decent source of proteins and carbs, but lame in comparison to so many of the others manufactured foods out there. Throw in some more energy bars instead, or even a few more jolly ranchers. You're going to want calories, more then anything else for the purposes of survival foods. Whether or not those calories come from carbs, proteins, or fats are merely secondary concerns.
Ditch the small crowbar in your main BoB. There really isn't much reason for it. If you feel as though you'll end up being in some sort of urban environment with all sorts of locked doors with no windows nearby, however, just get one of those combination hatchet/pry bars. In fact, you should ideally replace both the crowbar and your axe with such a combination. It'll save on weight, and space.
Replace the binoculars with a monocular. It's all about space and weight in a BoB, and you just can't afford to not cut corners whereever you can. Binoculars, even the small folding kind, are just too unneccesarily large, as compared to monoculars.
In regards to the survival handbook, put it in a waterproof bag and place that on your tac vest. If you feel like that book is something you need to survive, then that will become doubly true if you have to ditch your main bag in favor of sticking to your tac vest alone. Assuming this is one of those small, pocket books too, it shouldn't be too much of an addition to your vest.
I'd ditch the wool blanket as well. It can be helpful, yes, but it still isn't worth it. Not only is it too bulky, but if your bag gets drenched, then it'll become a nasty ten pound, waterlogged burden. With two ponchos and an emergency blanket, you have enough there to use one poncho as shelter, and the other one and blanket for warmth. If you're really concerned about staying warm, grab another thermal blanket. They're smaller, lighter, and more useful on the whole.
Outside of that, I'd make two noteworthy additions. You likely want to throw in a bandana/handkerchief. They can come in handy as sweat bands, bandages, face masks, short ties (in spots where 50' of paracord is just a bit much, i.e. tourniquet), cleaning rags, and dozens more situational things. Cowboys didn't wear them for the hell of it.
A small sewing kit should come in extreme handy as well. Remember, you'll only have one set of clothes, so you can't afford to ditch them just because a hole opens up in them.
Finally, if you can, get one of those combination radio and LED lanterns with a hand crank that Sharper Image is selling. Those are effectively an unlimited source of light and radio monitoring. After you've freed up the weight and space from the crowbar and wool blanket, there should be plenty of room for this, the sewing kit, and the bandana too.
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