Dogfather vs Coconut

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Dogfather vs Coconut

Postby AltimGXE » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:43 pm

I don't really know what I'm doing here, but this is me trying to open a coconut.

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Dogfather and Coconut

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Drilling a hole

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Finished hole

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Nothing came out, so I cleared the hole using a chopstick

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Pouring out the coconut water

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Giving it a whack

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Many whacks later. Apparently (after consulting youtube), you are supposed to use the back side of the knife and just whack it really hard. Live and learn. I pretty much just chopped it in half.

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Couldn't get the meat out of the half sphere, so I laid it on the counter and gave it another good whack (with the back side). Nothing. So I turned the knife around and gave it another whack, causing the coconut to explode all over the kitchen. I retrieved the piece in the back from the other side of the room.

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Wrapped the 2nd half in newspaper to prevent exploding.

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Whack one

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I had the camera on rapid fire mode so this is the bounce caused by the first whack. Action shot! :)

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Second action shot, after the half landed.

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Results of the newspaper wrapping. Ended up just tearing the rest apart by hand.
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Postby CavemanSam » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:12 pm

Great post. Altim

Even better when I remembered the coconut is used as an analog of a human skull and imagined you wrapping a skull in newspaper and attemping to whack it multiple times :twisted:

yeah, i probably need help...

Fake edit: Could you provide some specs or a link for that knife? reminds me of a becker
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Postby Gunny » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:19 pm

What kind of camera are you using? Those pics are pretty sharp.
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Postby AltimGXE » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:25 pm

CavemanSam - the knife came from Scrap Yard Knives: http://www.scrapyardknives.com/knives.htm

Gunny - Canon 400D with 50mm/1.8 lens.

Funny you mentioned the skull thing, I was originally going to place the coconut on the handrail outside and just give it a hard whack (while filming, of course.) Then I decided I actually wanted to eat it.
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Postby SamuraiBobX26 » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:10 pm

I like that knife and thanks for the link to people who make it.
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Postby Squirrley » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:11 am

My next knife is gonna be a scrap yard one I think. Those look like some bomber blades.
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Postby Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:56 am

Damn but the Busse family has a lot to answer for...


...does anybody of that bloodline make a bad knife? :shock:

Now if Scrapyard could just make a Khukri Dogfather... :twisted:


Great pics AltimGXE, thanks!
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Postby Zdigger » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:03 am

MMMM its easier to crack fresh coconuts with the back edge, in the Philippines the kids would shimmy up the trees and drop 3 or 4 coconuts down then shuck the covering off then use the back edge of a blade usually made from a leaf spring, mmmmm man fresh coconunt milk and Halo Halo
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Postby Molon Labe » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:18 am

Can anyone tell me what SR-77 steel is. I've tried googling every steel site I know of but I can't seem to find it. I really like that 'Scrapper 6'. But if it's no better than 5160 steel then I'm gonna go in another direction.
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Postby Zdigger » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:01 am

only thing with SR-77 that I have found is a referance to alkaline earth metal
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Postby Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:20 am

Dunno if this helps but...

From the Scrapyard Homepage.

Patricia Busse wrote:
He used a lot of 5160, A-2, D-2, 0-1, and other popular steels of the time until he stumbled upon S-7 shock steel. He simply could not get over the toughness of this steel and finally settled on this grade for his big fixed blades that would be called upon to stand up to ridiculous amounts of abuse and hard use. His love affair with spring and shock steels began way back then and has continued through to this day.


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Postby Molon Labe » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:15 am

Thanks, I start researching and then post my findings. :)

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A shock steel with excellent impact properties and an air hardening grade that is safe & stable in heat treat.

Chemical Composition (unless a range is specified, individual values are maximums)
Up to 12"
Carbon 0.45-0.55
Chromium 3.00-3.50
Tungsten 0.20-0.80
Molybdenum 1.30-1.80
Sulphur 0.03
Silicon 0.20-1.00
Vanadium
(Optional) 0.20-0.30

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Sounds like another wonder stainless, like S30V. No thanks, I'll stick with carbon. Just a preference.
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Postby AltimGXE » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:11 am

Link to a destruction test of the Scrapper 6: http://www.knifetests.com/scrapyardscrapper6test.html

zombiedigger - I am pretty sure this coconut was not that fresh, I saw the coconut pile sitting there for a while at Publix. Didn't taste all that "coconutty" in the end. Still, I want to try the back edge whack sometime.
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Postby Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:50 am

Altim, since you own one and all do you think the Dogfather could fill/replace the machette, hatchet and (this one might be a stretch) prybar roles in a BOB/INCH?
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Postby AltimGXE » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:08 am

Tetra Grammaton Cleric wrote:Altim, since you own one and all do you think the Dogfather could fill/replace the machette, hatchet and (this one might be a stretch) prybar roles in a BOB/INCH?
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It can replace the hatchet and prybar no question, it actually hacks through wood very easily. You can also use it as a machete if you want, but you better start hitting the gym; this knife isn't light :) Picture a large bowie knife for a weight comparison.
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Postby Jamie » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:17 am

This thread makes me want to buy a bunch of coconuts and do some testing when I get home...my Ontario SP-8, the Aguila Super Colibri rounds for my 22, some lighter-weight shotgun loads, etc.

Note to self: Do not share what I'm actually going to use my new bushel of coconuts for with the ex-student of mine at the cash-register :wink:

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Postby CavemanSam » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:01 pm

nfa wrote:This thread makes me want to buy a bunch of coconuts and do some testing when I get home...my Ontario SP-8, the Aguila Super Colibri rounds for my 22, some lighter-weight shotgun loads, etc.

Note to self: Do not share what I'm actually going to use my new bushel of coconuts for with the ex-student of mine at the cash-register :wink:

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I demand a test involving a coconut and your maul :twisted:
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Postby Jamie » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:13 pm

CavemanSam wrote:
nfa wrote:This thread makes me want to buy a bunch of coconuts and do some testing when I get home...my Ontario SP-8, the Aguila Super Colibri rounds for my 22, some lighter-weight shotgun loads, etc.

Note to self: Do not share what I'm actually going to use my new bushel of coconuts for with the ex-student of mine at the cash-register :wink:

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I demand a test involving a coconut and your maul :twisted:


I didn't even bring the badass maul to the NNY08WCT, I brought his lightweight and portable cousin...pics to follow... :twisted:
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Postby Dak Kovar » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:22 pm

That looks like one badass knife but I thought the second photo would show 3 fingers on the floor after the blade skipped. Glad it worked out. Nice pictures by the way.
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Postby misanthropist » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:56 pm

Molon labe wrote:Thanks, I start researching and then post my findings. :)

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Description
A shock steel with excellent impact properties and an air hardening grade that is safe & stable in heat treat.

Chemical Composition (unless a range is specified, individual values are maximums)
Up to 12"
Carbon 0.45-0.55
Chromium 3.00-3.50
Tungsten 0.20-0.80
Molybdenum 1.30-1.80
Sulphur 0.03
Silicon 0.20-1.00
Vanadium
(Optional) 0.20-0.30

Linky

Sounds like another wonder stainless, like S30V. No thanks, I'll stick with carbon. Just a preference.


Yeah, the SR77 is pretty good, but it's no be-all end-all steel. I don't find it to be much different than 5160.

I like tool steels myself...O1 + A2 are great big knife steels, D2 is great for small stuff.

Of course I also like 5160 and 52100...and my Scrapyard knife is fine, just not up to the hype some people throw at it.
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Postby Jamie » Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:00 pm

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Postby AltimGXE » Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:16 pm

lol nfa, nice :D
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Postby Molon Labe » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:54 am

nfa FTW. We should put all of our "other weapons" to test and post the results. Maybe it'll even motivate Eric to get off his ass and make some more "Videos of Win" for us all. :)
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Postby mr. right-wing » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:55 am

Tetra Grammaton Cleric wrote:Damn but the Busse family has a lot to answer for...


...does anybody of that bloodline make a bad knife? :shock:

Now if Scrapyard could just make a Khukri Dogfather... :twisted:


Great pics AltimGXE, thanks!
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