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Professional quality sling-shots?

Postby Cricket » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:49 pm

What does everyone think of these?

I've been able to smash into coconuts with metal marbels before, so it looks like they could POSSIBLY smash into a skull.

Plus they are relatively cheap, you can use any kind of ammo in them that will fit in them, plus reloading is a lot faster than with crossbows.
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Postby stu_wat » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:52 pm

what one you use ?
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Postby Cricket » Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:03 pm

http://www.armynavyshop.com/closeups/rc5721.jpg

Looks like this, picked it up at Wal Mart YEARS ago, its worked really well for me for a long time.
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Re: Professional quality sling-shots?

Postby SMERSH » Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:35 pm

Cricket wrote:What does everyone think of these?

I've been able to smash into coconuts with metal marbels before, so it looks like they could POSSIBLY smash into a skull.

Plus they are relatively cheap, you can use any kind of ammo in them that will fit in them, plus reloading is a lot faster than with crossbows.


if it will smash a coconut, it will definatly smash a skull. since coconuts require more force to break
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Postby bgaesop » Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:54 am

How accurate is it? I had one of those for a while and the rubber band decayed and wasn't very accurate, so I want to know how yours is.
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Postby DragoBloodlust » Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:29 am

If you have a LOT of experience and a WHOLE SHITLOAD of practice, a slingshot can be a great weapon. But, its like a good sword, dont fuck with it if you dont know what you're doing. You'll only get yourself killed.
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Postby ghostface » Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:00 am

Slingshots are like pellet rifles- I'd maybe keep one and lots of ammo in my BOLocation. No way would I even try to kill a zombie with it unless it was literally the only thing around. They might be useful for hunting small game so as not to waste ammo.
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Postby -Jason- » Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:04 pm

It may smash a coocoonut because they are brittle and will not cushion the blow. Fat and skin will.
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Postby Cricket » Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:06 pm

bgaesop wrote:How accurate is it? I had one of those for a while and the rubber band decayed and wasn't very accurate, so I want to know how yours is.


I can hit a 12 inch in diameter bullseye consecutively at about 50 meters, so about as accurate as a moderately trained person with a carbine and no scope i'd imagine.
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Postby Cricket » Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:07 pm

-Jason- wrote:It may smash a coocoonut because they are brittle and will not cushion the blow. Fat and skin will.


The flesh inside of a coconut cushions the blow.

Thats kind of the agreed apon test here, if it can smash a coconut it can smash a skull.
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Postby -Jason- » Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:59 pm

Cricket wrote:
-Jason- wrote:It may smash a coocoonut because they are brittle and will not cushion the blow. Fat and skin will.


The flesh inside of a coconut cushions the blow.

Thats kind of the agreed apon test here, if it can smash a coconut it can smash a skull.


It has to crack the coocoonut before it reaches the "skin" inside it and if the shell cracks so does the "skin." A human is diffrent and has the skin on the outside whch cushions it before it gets to the skull. And if f they could travel through the skin and have the power to crack the skull seems very unbelieveable and if so they would have rather right restrictions on their sale. And I know its an agreed upon test but all weapons are diffrent.
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Postby Mugwug » Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:50 pm

DragoBloodlust wrote:If you have a LOT of experience and a WHOLE SHITLOAD of practice, a slingshot can be a great weapon. But, its like a good sword, dont fuck with it if you dont know what you're doing. You'll only get yourself killed.


The same can be said of firearms....
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Postby Cricket » Sat Dec 25, 2004 5:00 pm

Well maybe they just don't think its that big of a threat, but with rather large ball bearings, I can bust one up pretty well.

I'm not suggesting it as a primary weapon against undead, just as an alternative for those without access to any firearms, or as a possible SILENT alternative to firearms.

I think it should be tested and considered, i'll get my slingshot out and take photos of how well it does against a coconut after the holidays are over (out of town right now).
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Postby DragoBloodlust » Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:17 pm

ghostface wrote:Slingshots are like pellet rifles- I'd maybe keep one and lots of ammo in my BOLocation. No way would I even try to kill a zombie with it unless it was literally the only thing around. They might be useful for hunting small game so as not to waste ammo.


Actually, a good slingshot is more like a .22 caliber pistol.
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Postby kyle » Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:19 pm

DragoBloodlust wrote:Actually, a good slingshot is more like a .22 caliber pistol.


Maybe someone can prove me wrong but I don't think you're going to get the same range, accuracy and penitration as a .22 with a piece of rubber. :)
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Postby Oracle » Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:25 pm

if it will smash a coconut, it will definatly smash a skull. since coconuts require more force to break


Exactly where are you getting this information? Evidence, please.
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Postby Iggy Hazard » Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:15 pm

Just about anything becomes ammo! :mrgreen: *bwee*
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Postby SMERSH » Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:33 pm

Oracle wrote:
if it will smash a coconut, it will definatly smash a skull. since coconuts require more force to break


Exactly where are you getting this information? Evidence, please.


im still looking for the link, but it has to do a lot with the fact that a coconuts shell is about the same hardness and thickness of a human skull and that a coconut is almost a perfect sphere and it is only one peice. where as a skull is nowhere near a sphere and is made up of several diffrent bones
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Postby Oracle » Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:24 pm

The skull may be the same thickness as a coconut shell, but I'm not convinced that the bone the skull is made of isn't a lot stronger than coconut shell. Bone, especially living bone, tends to be extremely strong.

I'd actually be happier if there was relatively definitive evidence that the coconut was approximately as strong as a human skull. Then I could do some small caliber penetration testing with different ammo brands. I'm really not convinced that it is, though.
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Postby Wylycoyte » Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:28 pm

This is more than likely some goofiness from Jim Lacy, Death Touch Master. He advocates the slaughter of hapless coconuts as a form of practice.
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Postby RealityDeviant » Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:19 am

I'm skeptical of the "coconut test" as well, but it's a decent simulation. You just have to admit that it's not necessarily a reliable indication of a weapon's effectiveness against a human target.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:37 pm

Then what really is the point in smashing coconuts? I mean, if it's not a good test of how effective whatever you're using against the coconut is against human beings, then why are you doing it? Just for the enjoyment of smashing a coconut?
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Postby RealityDeviant » Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:40 pm

That and because ballistic gel is expensive? I can't say I've ever bothered with the coconut test myself.

Anyway, the coconut test does give a rough indication of how something might crack a skull. It's not reliable and there may be better means, but I suppose it works for the poor or lazy.
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Postby SMERSH » Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:23 pm

oracle: lets say that i am wrong about coconuts, they still are the closest thing to a real skull that is readly available, and that is inexpensive

that is unless we can get our new orleans members to kill their karma and risk possable jail time by picking up a skull after a flood
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