Challenge response

by **Red Panda** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:37 pm

Has ZS agreed on a default channel that would be used for FRS/GMRS radios?

As an addition to that, I would like to suggest using a common challenge response that we could use. Just in case we get separated at night or are talking to someone that sounds "friendly" on the radio & just wanna make sure they are in fact part of the group.

Just another security measure to help us weed out the raiders & hostiles.

BTW, "Marco"..."Polo" is not an acceptable option.

by **ghostface** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:39 pm

I like this idea.

The answer should not be "BRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIINNNSSS!!!" or moaning.

by **kyle** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:45 pm

We use channel 9 for FMS and 8 for GMRS but we haven't standardized anything yet.

As far as code words, that not a bad plan but I think we need to work out details of our rendezvous points first other wise it won't matter since they only have a range of a few miles.

by **minengr** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:27 pm

Just my suggestion FWIW.

“The chair is against the wall” and the response should be “John has a long mustache”

Unless you are a total movie nerd, you won’t get it.

by **ghostface** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:49 pm

minengr wrote:Just my suggestion FWIW.

“The chair is against the wall” and the response should be “John has a long mustache”

Red Dawn

minengr wrote:Unless you are a total movie nerd, you won’t get it.

Or a quick googler. <- what an ugly word.

by **Mugwug** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:02 pm

minengr wrote:Just my suggestion FWIW.

“The chair is against the wall” and the response should be “John has a long mustache”

See, I thought it was from Cornelius Ryans classic "The longest day"....

by **Nightside_Eclipse** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:11 pm

How about "Headshot" for the challenge and "Bingo" for the response.

by **Gundown** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:24 am

[edit]forget it I'm tired[/edit]

by **Red Panda** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:58 am

I'd like to cast my vote for Nightside's idea.

Another idea would be to use a codeword at the end of all communications. If you don't hear it, then you can assume that your team-mate has been compromised.

Obviously, these are both geared to threats other than zombies.

Unless they're ROTLD zombies. :cry:

by **Nightside_Eclipse** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:28 am

I vote for "I'm not zombie shit yet" for the code phrase.

What? That's no good?

Edited because I can't type for shit.

by **Horatio_Tyllis** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:50 am

even something as simple as using or not using the word "Over" can be a code to indicate trouble.

Great way to use it if you're under duress. or mention something simple like rabbit hunting in your communique if there's trouble. The best codes are dirt simple, because no one listening can tell they're codes.

by **Red Panda** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:49 pm

Ok, I have an idea for the code word at the end of all communications.

When all communications are finished & we've said "Over", we also add the Military alphabet word corresponding to the hour.

So, if we're communicating at 8pm, then at the end of the conversation, we'd say "over & out, uniform"

8am = "over & out, hotel"

It may seem somewhat complicated, but if you don't have time to look at your watch before concluding the transmission, then chances are that you're compromised.

In case of trouble, you can just end the transmission with "over & out, (insert word that would correspond to a different time of day).

What I mean is, if it's night time & you are being coerced to contact your teammates/base, you can end with "over & out, kilo". It would be obvious to any of us listening that you've said the wrong codeword, but if transmissions have been monitored for a while by the "raiders", it won't be as obvious as leaving out a word, completely.

Ok, I hope that makes sense.

Now, I'll just get to work on the Little Orphan Annie spy decoder rings & we're all set.

by **Nightside_Eclipse** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:00 am

Great Panda....... now I gotta memorize that phonetic alphabet time thingy

That is a good idea though.

by **ghostface** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:56 pm

Red Panda wrote:What I mean is, if it's night time & you are being coerced to contact your teammates/base, you can end with "over & out, kilo". It would be obvious to any of us listening that you've said the wrong codeword, but if transmissions have been monitored for a while by the "raiders", it won't be as obvious as leaving out a word, completely.

To a lay person like myself, adding a word (like kilo) to the end sounds more like code than saying nothing. I would assume that it was a panic word.

by **Nightside_Eclipse** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:00 am

How about "zulu" for a challenge and, just to make sure they don't randomly get it right, "sabre" for the response.

by **Red Panda** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:17 am

ghostface wrote:
Red Panda wrote:What I mean is, if it's night time & you are being coerced to contact your teammates/base, you can end with "over & out, kilo". It would be obvious to any of us listening that you've said the wrong codeword, but if transmissions have been monitored for a while by the "raiders", it won't be as obvious as leaving out a word, completely.

To a lay person like myself, adding a word (like kilo) to the end sounds more like code than saying nothing. I would assume that it was a panic word.

That's a good point. We use military alphabet at work so much, I was just assuming that everyone knows it.

Hmmm, maybe if we add our name before saying "over & out", that can be the warning. A lot easier to remember, too.

by **Gundown** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:07 am

Our real names or our ZombieSquad names? Would I say "GunDown Out!"

or "James out"?

I don't want to be covered in the undead and have you guys sitting around trying to figgure out who the hell James is.

by **Nightside_Eclipse** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:14 am

I like going by our ZS names....

Except for that XXXOOOXXOXOX (or whatever his/her name is) person.

That would be a bit difficult...

by **ghostface** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:15 pm

Red Panda wrote:That's a good point. We use military alphabet at work so much, I was just assuming that everyone knows it.

Hmmm, maybe if we add our name before saying "over & out", that can be the warning. A lot easier to remember, too.

I know the mil alphabet- I was saying that to some dude off the street, hearing you say "kilo" at the end would sound like code. It would probably make them suspicious.

Something more normal, like a name, would be less apt to raise flags.

However, wouldn't it be a good idea to say something like, "'Charles', this is Peter, over". Where "Charles" is the panic word? Does that make any sense?

by **Red Panda** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:27 pm

The codename is a good idea.

Now we just have to agree on a name that'd be suitable.

"Cosmo, this is Panda, over."

by **Gundown** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:25 am

Panda this is Cosmo. Wiskey Tango Foxtrot over?

by **Red Panda** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:31 am

Shit.

It doesn't work if someone is, in fact, named Cosmo.

Ya crazy bastard.

by **Gundown** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:43 am

Hey!

Ok so you've got bad guys all around you and you radio for Cosmo, and I come back with "Panda this is GunDown, did you say Cosmo? Over."

They might think something is up, but if we radio back with "Panda this is Cosmo, yakity smackity blah blah blah..." they'll think you did indeed raise someone named Cosmo and at the same time you'll know that we've received your distress call and will be coming to alleviate your situation posthaste.

by **Red Panda** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:31 am

Ha!

I thought you were kidding. I didn't realize that was an example of a transmitted reply.

Good idea, sir.

Now, do ya think Cosmo is a good name to use? Maybe Kramer would be a little less obvious.

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