Cane of Doom

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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby Tank Woman » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:56 am

I'm married to a horndog, and dont want to get preggers. :)
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby DarkPhoenix » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:26 am

Tank Woman wrote:I'm married to a horndog, and dont want to get preggers. :)



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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby coyotebc » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:45 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canne_de_combat
Although a sport now at one time the cane was used as a weapon
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby BlueSilkRibbon » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:30 pm

Seigii wrote:Magnum condom?


That's my brand, but as my spousal equivalent is fond of saying, "I am not impressed, it's genetics, it's not like you had to study for it"
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby Tank Woman » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:28 pm

Lol, well The Farmer is 6'4" and wears size 14 boots, so he is proportionate. ;)
Wow, weiner talk. How off topic can we get!
So, back to the cane...um, I keep it on a gun rack in the window of my truck when driving. There. Cane talk. Good enough. :clownshoes:
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby HMPlatinum » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:39 pm

Seigii wrote:Magnum condom?


They're not just for breakfast, you know. I can't see it clearly, but I'd guess it's non-lube, non-spermicidal.
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby BlueSilkRibbon » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:57 pm

Tank Woman wrote:Lol, well The Farmer is 6'4" and wears size 14 boots, so he is proportionate. ;)
Wow, weiner talk. How off topic can we get!
So, back to the cane...um, I keep it on a gun rack in the window of my truck when driving. There. Cane talk. Good enough. :clownshoes:


That is where I keep mine as well, hence the Magnum, just sayin'.
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby jamoni » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:28 pm

I can't help but think a walking staff would make a better weapon. More reach, etc.
Then my mind wanders to EDCing a mini Bushman....
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby That German Guy » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:20 am

I can see the condom as a "legal consequence mitigation tool", as in "ya Officer, I did shove that cane up his ass (he had it coming, believe me), but at least I put a condom on it so he wouldn't get splinters"
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby Geo » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:46 pm

:clap: ----OKAY---so this Cane is good where? Im not interested in any place else but CANADA. This where i have to be- Now i need to know what is good here. Things that are simple.I dont have guns because i dont have a lic. But that doesnt stop me from knowing how to operate one with knowlegde. But as for othet pieces of helpfulness im more than willing to listen. As for survival -trapping and slingshots are great and so are crossbows. VERY QUIET. dont laff rabbitts never hear it -Im also a NEWBY here -so i do need to know about this because i do walk with a cane and I would like to have some protection. :D
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby the_alias » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:19 pm

Why do you need a cane?
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby Geo » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:53 pm

what i need to know is -are these legal to have in Canada? if so then im in. I need a cane. if one was to get one up here - how would you present it to a cop if questioned. you defend yourself from a cop beating on you - do you let loose then say AH IM Sorry- but if you hadnt have grabbed me this way i wouldnt have zapped your foot . - Whats the word on these.
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby ForgeCorvus » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:05 am

Tank. Because I couldn't see the pic very well I had a look on your photostream (the pic acts as a link clicky).
Are those knitted para-cord bags on there?........ Cool 8-)

BTW Geo, I don't know about Canada but any cane or walking stick carried as a weapon is dodgy over here (UK) let alone anything made or modified to be a weapon. (Tazers are specifically banned)

I'll have to assume "Just Reason" applies to walking sticks too.Mr Plod isn't going to worry about someone halfway up a mountain with a stick, or someone old or infirm using one to get around. But a fit healthy 20-something going to a club at 1 am is a different matter.
I'm English, our Government doesn't trust us to have real guns........or decent pocket knives for that matter
Good job theres no such thing as a Trebuchet licence :D

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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby Tank Woman » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:34 am

ForgeCorvus wrote:Are those knitted para-cord bags on there?........ Cool 8-)

Yup, but its crochet, I never could get the hang of knitting. I wanted to do something that didnt cut the cord up. That was my first project with paracord. :clownshoes:
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby ForgeCorvus » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:38 am

You need to post a thread on it somewhere..........Bug-Out gear maybe?
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby Tank Woman » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:52 am

It's in the Fun With Paracord thread here:
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby bladeright » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:06 am

would something like this work?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAN-MAI-FOLDED- ... 256fdd2bc5

sweet cane imo, i also like the lock on it, never seen a lock like that on a sword cane
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby Mr_Sheesh » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:36 am

Hi Tank Woman - I am also stuck (for now if not forever) with a cane; I've seen one far heavier cane that is made from iron gas pipe with a hardwood dowel epoxied into the center; I'm a large guy & had one hard near fall a while ago, fast reflexes & lots of luck saved me but bent my aluminum cane a little (in compression even) - So I'm thinking of making myself one as the original manufacturer is (AFAIK) not selling them ATM. He brushed the cane's barrel with black epoxy paint or the like, to make it look wood-like. (I figure if I break that thing I'd have broken most *everything* and wouldn't care.) It'll be heavy but it'll be unbreakable, and backup as a thwapping stick if worst comes to worst. Unless I decide to go with wood (bloodroot IIRC is one solid wood? Or PurpleHeart.)

I am using a "T" handled, too-lightweight aluminum cane ATM - Dr's / PTers "suggested" I use a quad cane - after I tripped over the dang thing a few times and almost fell from that, and knowing that I have good reflexes despite the messed up knees, I bailed on the thing and started using the Aluminum cane. It's quite ANNOYING when it hits something, tilts 45 degrees and the rear foot catches your foot in mid-step. Dangerous even.

Also - have you seen the Able Tripod Cane Tip? http://www.amazon.com/Able-Tripod-Cane-Base-shaft/dp/B000B7MPKK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hpc_3 It looks nice if you need a little more stability or convenience (you can bring the cane upright if dropped by using the tripod base as a lever, with your foot.) Safer IMO than a quad cane, also. I plan to see about printing my own on 3d printers, as they'll cost me more like 50 cents that way - I imagine they'd wear if you didn't put some sort of rubber under them though? (I'm thinking on what to do there.) Can you tell I'm a techie type? If you want to try one I'd just need to know the diameter of your cane tip (it won't be this week I think, I am getting set to get 3d printer access, just a few swamps to drain first!) and figure out how to get it to you etc.

Hmmm; Do you like the handle on that cane better than a "T" shaped top, BTW? (T shaped don't require a tubing bender be used, I'm debating which to do. I'd probably 3d print an ABS plastic handle, put a LED flashlight inside etc.) The Quad Cane had that on it's top, I could hack the bottom off it but naah too little challenge? :mrgreen:

While sword cane could be fun, I'm sure those are illegal here. Pass :)
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby by-the-throat » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:20 am

I just wanted to offer my suggestion as I carried a cane for EDC self defense for many years, before I started packing the telescoping baton.

The main problem I found with carrying a cane for SD is that it too often got left behind when going places; it requires a free hand all the time. It is also not very convenient getting in and out of the car. Now, if you have to carry it for other reasons anyway, this issue is more or less mitigated by necessity, but I found myself with nothing but a folding knife too often because I just couldn't be arsed to pack the fucker.

That said, a cane can be a monstrously effective weapon for self defense. I had occasion to use it twice, although once was not very decisive. My second hand understanding of specialized training companies like Canemasters is that they are rather elaborate, with lots of fancy grapples and come alongs, but really my background in modern arnis more or less covered the use of the cane the way I preferred-as a blunt object. There is no need to make the cane fancy or complicated; bash a motherfucker in the temple, jab him in the throat, and you can end a fight. To that end, I prefer a thicker, heavier cane than rattan and opted for a purple heart cane from Cold Steel. (Now a discontinued item) IMHO this is the best cane for self defense; heavy ferrule, thick, tough wood and a good, fist sized knob at the top end. It is not the most comfortable for actual walking support, though-that knob sometimes left my hand cramped at the end of the day (insert tasteless joke here)

Another issue with the cane can be deployment; unless you are carrying it like you are looking for trouble, you need to be able to deploy it from the normal walking position, that is holding the knob or the crook or whatever. I actually got really quick with a palm strike while holding the knob and found it useful; you can get your other hand on it and follow up with a two handed swing as necessary. Also, against a rushing attacker, you can easily kick out the bottom end as an impediment to stop the rush. It is easy to get someone's feet all entangled without much force.

This last bit may also sound ridiculous, and I never really had to use it in a life or death situation, but I actually got good at throwing that beast. I used to whip it at an old refrigerator box at the back of the donut shop and punch the ferrule through the cardboard at about 15 feet. Against a firearm in close range, I think get off the x, fling it at them as hard as possible to spoil their shooting, and then rush them at top speed. Cane vs. Gun is in no way a desirable scenario so tactical hardcases pleez no flaming, but it is something to think about as the situation may come up.

Sorry for the long pedantic rant; just giving the benefit of my own limited experience.
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby Mr_Sheesh » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:13 am

Good point - doing something TOTALLY astonishing to your attacker is a good idea. When it'll totally distract an attacker or at least gain you style points if you're going out NOW - Smile at them like you've met a long lost friend, speak in tongues, throw your cane THROUGH them, whip your coat's metal buttons/zippers across their eyes, whatever they don't expect, put THEM on the defensive / in shock. Could save your behind. My sig line's usually about engineering design and driving, when astonishing others is a bad idea, but this is different :)

And you want to do the thinking and planning now, not "Oops it's to late to think what do I do" panic when it's too late. (Should sound quite familiar to all of us here :))

You can also use a cane like a hanbo or short quarterstaff; heck if tap dancing with it gets you home safe at the end of the day, it WORKED. Discretion's wise though :)
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby foxx » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:37 pm

Has anybody ever used one of these canes, it's made from G-10? http://stores.universal-outfitters.com/ ... bok?no=126

I don't know how well it would work day to day as a cane, but G-10 is very strong and tough. I don't think it could be broken by a person's strength or weight.
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Re: Cane of Doom

Postby Mr_Sheesh » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:43 am

Interesting! $250 seems quite a bit rich for G-10 FR4 to me - it is a PC board material, though in the cane form isn't a typical shape for PC boards.

I used to have a friend who worked making fiberglass fishing rods and carbon fiber fishing rods, they could make a hollow cane like that too, I'd imagine they'd be very strong and solid. You could do the same thing with electrical conduit or foam cored fiberglass also, fill it with something that had quite a bit of air space and embed it in resin, makes it TOUGH. They make good solid boats using "Foam Core" construction, I've thought that could be a very strong, light cane, I just don't have access to fiberglass materials ATM. Made our own canoes, years ago, bit of work :)
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