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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby ultra magnus » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:49 pm

Neville wrote:
nimdabew wrote:!!!

MACHINE GUN

!!!


Bingo. We have a winner.

According to ATF if it fires more than one round per trigger pull that's what it is.

Still looks fun though. Can you imagine what a conversation starter that would be.



How do double barrel shotguns avoid this?
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby Einher » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:27 am

ultra magnus wrote:
Neville wrote:
nimdabew wrote:!!!

MACHINE GUN

!!!


Bingo. We have a winner.

According to ATF if it fires more than one round per trigger pull that's what it is.

Still looks fun though. Can you imagine what a conversation starter that would be.



How do double barrel shotguns avoid this?


Every double barrel shotgun I have ever seen has had either:
A) One trigger that lights each barrel off sequentially with each pull of the trigger.
B) Two triggers, one to actuate each barrel.

EDIT(ed for clarity): To more completely address what I think you are really asking (upon reflection):
As an example; if we imagine a double barrel shotgun having one trigger that (either by design, modification or intentional malfunction) ignites more than a one (1) cartridge with each conscious activation of the trigger, you would be correct in acknowledging that firearm to be (under the law) a machinegun and regarded as a highly legislated device.

As a side note: accidents of this nature have been know to happen on very rare occasions with some older double barrel shotguns that I do not know the name of.

IIRC In the instances I read about they were considered to be 'slamfire' and not 'full automatic' as it was caused by the mechanical malfunction of the FCG.

It's a different story altogether when the gun (or a component) is designed to fire more than a single cartridge or shell.
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby nimdabew » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:12 pm

Tetra Grammaton Cleric wrote:Image

:lol:

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I want that. Where do I get one? I am very serious. See how black my text is?
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:19 pm

nimdabew wrote:
Tetra Grammaton Cleric wrote:Image

:lol:

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I want that. Where do I get one? I am very serious. See how black my text is?


http://www.oa2.org/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=13302
http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7837&sid=28544e57139bd69dd7f3f775878ab096

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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby majorhavoc » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:32 pm

Tetra Grammaton Cleric wrote:
nimdabew wrote:
Tetra Grammaton Cleric wrote:Image

:lol:

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I want that. Where do I get one? I am very serious. See how black my text is?


http://www.oa2.org/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=13302
http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7837&sid=28544e57139bd69dd7f3f775878ab096

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http://www.google.com/products/catalog? ... IwBEPMCMAM

We're just enabling him, TGC. You know that, right?
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby Tetra Grammaton Cleric » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:39 pm

majorhavoc wrote:
Tetra Grammaton Cleric wrote:
nimdabew wrote:
Tetra Grammaton Cleric wrote:Image

:lol:

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I want that. Where do I get one? I am very serious. See how black my text is?


http://www.oa2.org/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=13302
http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7837&sid=28544e57139bd69dd7f3f775878ab096

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http://www.google.com/products/catalog? ... IwBEPMCMAM

We're just enabling him, TGC. You know that, right?

Oh hell yeah. :lol:

At least with it being Nim we're guarenteed to get pics and maybe video out of it. Enabling in this case equals an investment in our own entertainment future. :wink:

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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby Doctorr Fabulous » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:43 pm

http://www.beamshot.com/laser_sight_BS8200S.html

Link to purchase the tri-dot laser for pistols. Didn't see a rifle mount, but I bet it's doable. No affiliation, other than I'll likely have one soon.
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby nimdabew » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:01 pm

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Thanks Anianna!
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby ultra magnus » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:05 pm

Einher wrote:
ultra magnus wrote:
Neville wrote:
nimdabew wrote:!!!

MACHINE GUN

!!!


Bingo. We have a winner.

According to ATF if it fires more than one round per trigger pull that's what it is.

Still looks fun though. Can you imagine what a conversation starter that would be.



How do double barrel shotguns avoid this?


Every double barrel shotgun I have ever seen has had either:
A) One trigger that lights each barrel off sequentially with each pull of the trigger.
B) Two triggers, one to actuate each barrel.

EDIT(ed for clarity): To more completely address what I think you are really asking (upon reflection):
As an example; if we imagine a double barrel shotgun having one trigger that (either by design, modification or intentional malfunction) ignites more than a one (1) cartridge with each conscious activation of the trigger, you would be correct in acknowledging that firearm to be (under the law) a machinegun and regarded as a highly legislated device.

As a side note: accidents of this nature have been know to happen on very rare occasions with some older double barrel shotguns that I do not know the name of.

IIRC In the instances I read about they were considered to be 'slamfire' and not 'full automatic' as it was caused by the mechanical malfunction of the FCG.

It's a different story altogether when the gun (or a component) is designed to fire more than a single cartridge or shell.



Gotcha. Having never fired a single trigger double for some reason I always thought pulling back part way fired one barrel and pulling back all the way fired the second/both.
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby Blacksmith » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:36 pm

Doc Torr wrote:http://www.beamshot.com/laser_sight_BS8200S.html

Link to purchase the tri-dot laser for pistols. Didn't see a rifle mount, but I bet it's doable. No affiliation, other than I'll likely have one soon.


I have one. It is most doable. Completely unaimable but doable. I got it mostly for the entertainment value.

It does put out quite a bit more light. Not as much as a green laser but much more than a single beam.
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby charlie505 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:40 am

the boz wrote:
charlie505 wrote:
shiddymunkie wrote:
charlie505 wrote:Perfect zombie gun - instant double tap!

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?????


blue text means you are not being serious.

you are an idiot if you like that gun!

see, its fun! :D

edit: maybe that was not the best phrase to use in blue, cause I do feel that way...




Never heard of the Blue thing! Thanks for the education!
Wait - Do I have to put my sarcastic remarks in blue?
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby majorhavoc » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:07 am

charlie505 wrote:Never heard of the Blue thing! Thanks for the education!
Wait - Do I have to put my sarcastic remarks in blue?


No you don't have to use blue for that. Because sarcasm translates so easily in written posts, everyone will know what you mean anyway.
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby Blacksmith » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:56 am

majorhavoc wrote:
charlie505 wrote:Never heard of the Blue thing! Thanks for the education!
Wait - Do I have to put my sarcastic remarks in blue?


No you don't have to use blue for that. Because sarcasm translates so easily in written posts, everyone will know what you mean anyway.


I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
Just to keep it on topic that gun is absolutely brilliant. Most people would just pull the trigger twice and change magazines when empty rather than lug a heavy bulky piece of mall ninja shit around like that. But the dual lasers really make it. Mostly I am jealous because I did not think of it first.
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby charlie505 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:08 am

majorhavoc wrote:
charlie505 wrote:Never heard of the Blue thing! Thanks for the education!
Wait - Do I have to put my sarcastic remarks in blue?


No you don't have to use blue for that. Because sarcasm translates so easily in written posts, everyone will know what you mean anyway.



I beg to differ - I have seen people take jokes as a serious comment and almost come down to a gun fight in the streets!
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby majorhavoc » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:35 am

charlie505 wrote:
majorhavoc wrote:No you don't have to use blue for that. Because sarcasm translates so easily in written posts, everyone will know what you mean anyway.



I beg to differ - I have seen people take jokes as a serious comment and almost come down to a gun fight in the streets!

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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby M14fan » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:53 pm

It may be an overly complicated solution to a non-existent problem but I have to admit it looks cool.
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Re: Unholy matrimony: the Doubled-Barrelled AR-15

Postby maldon007 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:46 am

Einher wrote: two eyed bi-scope-nocular.


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