Fix you aiming with this chart

[Visionz]

I haven't seen this chart on this forum. Before you go adjusting your sights, make sure it is not user error.
This chart is for right-handers. Flip the image if you are left-handed.

[CaptAmerica]

I carry a laminated copy of this in my range bag. Good reminder.

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[djblocker88]

Some of the targets I buy have this in the lower right corner. But it seems pretty useful to have a bigger sized chart. Thank you.

[ElevenBravo]

Would it still work for those that only open there eyes after the trigger squeeze ??

Nice chart, Ill have to print it out... for some rookie friends.

Andrew

[JTNieman]

I've found that this chart over simplifies things.

It works great for 80% of the time, but there is a lot more going on in the relationship between your brain, hand, and firearm. This chart is meant as a "in most cases" type of thing, but I find that you might be chasing that last bit of POI without knowing what's going on, because the chart doesn't cover your real problem. For instance, it has no mention of the 'trigger finger bicep' flexing and pushing on the frame, if your grip allows it to.

There are many things this helps, but it's not the be-all, end-all, and it's kind of important to understand that, once you get to a certain point. This is a good chart for new shooters though. I find a good diagnostician/trainer to be the most efficient and worthwhile remedy.

[FelixArchon]

I've found that this chart over simplifies things.

Agreed.

If there's something wrong with your grip or your form, nothing short of an instructor is going to be able to really diagnose the problem. And to be perfectly blunt, a lot of shooters lack the fundamentals needed to make proper use of this chart: this is intended to suggest small grip-tweaks for people who are already doing most everything else right (basic hold, sight alignment, trigger control).

While the OP points out that user-error is a much more likely cause of a miss than the items on this chart (and is right), seems to me that way too many shooters take this chart way too seriously, neglecting good fundamentals (and lots of practice) while hoping for a magic fix to their poor shooting. Bottom line: If as a beginner you find that your groups are all over the place, get some instruction. If you can't (or won't) do that - or even if you do - spend a month doing 10 minutes a day of dry-fire drills before you start paying a lot of attention to this chart. My money says that at the end of that month, you won't need this chart.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

Where's the slot for "sights poorly adjusted because the jackass broke them/adjusted them without knowing that he's doing" and "gun doesn't fit hand." Or my favorite "Focusing on front sight" which results in a donut pattern, but can be skewed any which way. Good basic tool, but professional instruction beats the wheel of doom.

[MacWa77ace]

I've found that this chart over simplifies things.

Agreed.

If there's something wrong with your grip or your form, nothing short of an instructor is going to be able to really diagnose the problem. And to be perfectly blunt, a lot of shooters lack the fundamentals needed to make proper use of this chart: this is intended to suggest small grip-tweaks for people who are already doing most everything else right (basic hold, sight alignment, trigger control).

While the OP points out that user-error is a much more likely cause of a miss than the items on this chart (and is right), seems to me that way too many shooters take this chart way too seriously, neglecting good fundamentals (and lots of practice) while hoping for a magic fix to their poor shooting. Bottom line: If as a beginner you find that your groups are all over the place, get some instruction. If you can't (or won't) do that - or even if you do - spend a month doing 10 minutes a day of dry-fire drills before you start paying a lot of attention to this chart. My money says that at the end of that month, you won't need this chart.

I agree with Felix and Doc, it's hard to improve when your guessing and/or your instructors are the guys you watch in tv shows using bad form/technique. Get instruction from multiple instructors 'cause there IS more than one right way, and each instuctor will have their own way of doing it right. Then build on what works for you. Also, I think that you should be able to handle any weapon that lands in your hand if your form is correct for you, regardless if that weapon 'fits' your hand. BTW I think that chart is for when an experienced shooter develops a 'yip'.

Going to the range a few times a week is expensive and in dry fire practice you may develop a 'yip' that causes a problem to be corrected in live fire. You may not believe this but I started using AirSofts to practice 'low ready' and 'draw and fire' a couple times a week. It really helps with acquiring the site picture and then seeing the result when you pull the trigger, so your're not just guessing that you had it right. But I'd only recommend that to someone who has already establised a form that is acceptable to them, and wants to keep it fresh. My dry fire practice with my 'real' handguns consists of; 'draw to site picture', tactical mag changes, clearing jams, and racking the slides, etc., but almost no trigger pulls.

ETA: I'm not an instructor but if I see a friend of mine 'tea cupping' I will show them my 'right way'.

[DeadPool-AK]

I carry a laminated copy of this in my range bag. Good reminder.

I do too, good to refer back to basics and build up your muscle memory.

[Dominion]

I've always thought this one was amusing

[RAYJAY]

here is a link for a printable copy of the above target great info

jeff


http://www.pistolnz.org.nz/safety.asp