bacpacjac wrote:Thanks derf26. Shelter is definitely one of the crucial components of this BOB. It's a constant evolution and something I constantly wrestle with. We're getting down to in and around freezing at night right now, and we're getting a combo of wet & windy, and unseasonably warm days.
A good sleeping bag for everyone is definitely on our TO DO List. We each have good cold weather bags but we use them regularly for camping so need to get something else for this dedicated BOB. I've got some el cheapo bags but they're not very warm. I've never tried to sleep in the AMK bivvy or Heatsheets but our plan for the moment is to use the Heatsheets for shelter building, ground sheet or as a top sheet over other sleeping layers. We keep a warm sleeping bag and 2 wool blankets, as well as a couple of sleeping pads, with the BOB that we're hoping should do the trick for our primary sleeping layers for now.
Note: one of the reasons for two Heatsheets, like a lot of redundancies in this kit, is that we anticipate splitting the gear into two packs and want to be sure that each pack has all the basics covered in the event that we get seperated.
derf26 wrote: I'm too poor to afford separate hiking and BOB gear, so I just keep my BOB packed and ready (except now when I'm taking everything apart and re-working it), and take it whenever I want to go hiking. You get the benefit of better gear (which you already have) and training with the exact weight you'd be taking in an actualy bugout situation.
1. Copies or originals of important documents like deed to the house, cars, etc., as well as insurance documents in case of house fire or destruction, preferably with photos of everything in the house. I recommend keeping all of this on a flash drive, or SD card. Also consider hardcopies of a few important documents in a waterproof container.
But that's a pretty comprehensive kit!
Aim2Maim wrote:Shelter would probably be my concern judging from your AO and being in a family scenario. A good sturdy tent would go a long ways, the bags and everything else is a definite need but having a strong 3 season (4 would be awesome but they are pretty pricey) go a long way for morale and comfort, especially with a child. If your 8y/o is well practiced and comfortable with bushcraft shelters than I suppose focusing more on the bags and what not would do. A modular sleeping system can be found on ebay for much cheaper than a 0' bag. I have used a MSS for a long time and loved it, I have since bout a couple of kelty 0* bags and would absolutely recommend them, however when trying to budget your preps I think a MSS gives you more. This is all assuming you are going to be bugging out in your vehicle. The downside to a heavy duty tent and MSS is weight. Tents can get extremely heavy if your not looking a UL backpacker types and the MSS weighs around 10lbs for everything, where my kelty weighs something like 2.6 lbs or so.
Everything comes down to what you can afford. It seems that you know you want to upgrade a few things already so focus on those. Make a list of the priority items you wish to upgrade and go from there. Water, shelter, fire, food, etc are your main issues. One other thing I would look into is a crank/solar radio. Some have charging capabilities for batteries,etc but a good old crank radio does a damn good job and you can use those batteries for something else. Good luck!
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