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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby UndeadInfidel » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:22 pm

xLionx wrote:When I was younger I would say that "I could care less" when in fact "I couldn't care less"


I was actually thinking of mentioning this in the thread earlier but realized it wasn't necessarily a mispronunciation. But yeah, I hear people say it all the time and just feel like saying, "So that means you care a lot, right?"
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Doctorr Fabulous » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:55 am

.50cal as "Point-fifty-cal." Really? So it was one half of one hundredth of an inch in bore? Fascinating.

"Mousher" when referring to Mauser. Or "Mowzer." It's "Mah-sser" if I remmeber my collegiate German.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Crazy Wolf » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:28 pm

Doc Torr wrote:.50cal as "Point-fifty-cal." Really? So it was one half of one hundredth of an inch in bore? Fascinating.

"Mousher" when referring to Mauser. Or "Mowzer." It's "Mah-sser" if I remmeber my collegiate German.

I think you might be wrong there. How do you pronounce: "Haus", "Schau", or "Brau"? I think "Mowzer", with "ow" being the sound you make when someone hurts you, is the correct pronunciation.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby JTNieman » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:14 pm

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Doc Torr wrote:.50cal as "Point-fifty-cal." Really? So it was one half of one hundredth of an inch in bore? Fascinating.

"Mousher" when referring to Mauser. Or "Mowzer." It's "Mah-sser" if I remmeber my collegiate German.

I think you might be wrong there. How do you pronounce: "Haus", "Schau", or "Brau"? I think "Mowzer", with "ow" being the sound you make when someone hurts you, is the correct pronunciation.

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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby The Commander » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:24 pm

I used to say GAIR-ind until I heard people say Gar-rand. Hecker & Coke or Cock or Cotch...

I used to say car-bine too. Now its car-bean for me.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby MaconCJ7 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:07 am

VLTOR has been an issue with many. I think they should put a pronunciation key on their site. I've always called it Vel-Tore.

Garand is an interesting one. I probably still say it wrong, but I'm used to it now. I say Guh-Ran. The 'd' somehow got lost, but if I think back on it I'm pretty sure my Grandpa popped me upside the head for saying the 'd'.

Not too worried about Mosin Nagant. I would like to know the proper pronunciation so I don't sound like a jackass, but if I say it wrong, what's the harm really? You're not going to end the conversation and walk away just because I don't say something quite how you think I should.

On the other hand, someone calling a 1911 a One-Nine-One-One, would make me turn around and walk away. That's just silly. My old HMMWV was an M1113, otherwise known as Eleven-Thirteen, not One-One-One-Three. That would get you kicked in the dick.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby brothaman » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:14 pm

I tend to fuck up a lot, so I don't let these kinda things bother me too much. With that,.. my bad pronuskeeahuns regarding firearms are...

Recticle instead reticle
Leopold instead Leupold
and Sega instead of Saiga. In this one, not only do I say it wrong,.. I think it wrong, I search it wrong on the google, and in my mind's eye, even at this moment, I see Sonic the Hedgehog running..
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby majorhavoc » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:19 pm

brothaman wrote:I tend to fuck up a lot, so I don't let these kinda things bother me too much. With that,.. my bad pronuskeeahuns regarding firearms are...

Recticle instead reticle
Leopold instead Leupold
and Sega instead of Saiga. In this one, not only do I say it wrong,.. I think it wrong, I search it wrong on the google, and in my mind's eye, even at this moment, I see Sonic the Hedgehog running..


I pity the 2 meter/70cm crowd. Yaesu is challanging enough ("Yay Sue"?). Now they have all the low cost radios coming out of China: Wouxun, Baifong, Qixiang and Quansheng. The only ironclad Chinese language pronounciation rule I know of is: "However I think it should be pronounced is guaranteed to be totally wrong."
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Jsimmonsgr » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:37 pm

I will start out by saying I know some of these have been covered. I want to clarify that I am gonna name the weapon in question and then try to spell phonetically what I have been told.....

1 S&W.... Smiff and Western, Smith and Western, Smiff and Westurner, Smiff and Wesson.
2 Sig Sauer..... Siggy Sower, Sig Sawuyer, Seeg Sooaawrr.
3 Kimber..... Kimberlie, Kin-Der, my personal favorate Kimmerr. ( From a genius who was telling his adoring girlfriend that the 'b' was silent.)
4 Mosin Nagant..... Moosan neggent, MOsiine nuggent, Moist Nugget, Mozine nagentt, Moyzan negant. ( It should be pronounced Mo seen Na gon.)
5 AK..... Kalishnakava, Kalishnakova, (from a yuppie)Kasheekubba, Krinkuv, Krinkov. ( Krinkov\Krinkuv was never used by the Russians, among Russian troops, the most common nicknames for the AKS-74U are the Okurok {cigarette stub} and Ksysusha {bitch}).
6 Ruger..... Rugger, Roogar, Luger, Roogir.
7 Beretta..... Baretuh, Barrerrutuh, Beretea.
8 Stoeger.....Stewgur,Stowegur, Sowgar.

I swear that the longer I am in my line of work the more people I meet that couldn't pass a fifth grade spelling test. :roll:
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Crazy Wolf » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:30 pm

majorhavoc wrote:
brothaman wrote:I tend to fuck up a lot, so I don't let these kinda things bother me too much. With that,.. my bad pronuskeeahuns regarding firearms are...

Recticle instead reticle
Leopold instead Leupold
and Sega instead of Saiga. In this one, not only do I say it wrong,.. I think it wrong, I search it wrong on the google, and in my mind's eye, even at this moment, I see Sonic the Hedgehog running..


I pity the 2 meter/70cm crowd. Yaesu is challanging enough ("Yay Sue"?). Now they have all the low cost radios coming out of China: Wouxun, Baifong, Qixiang and Quansheng. The only ironclad Chinese language pronounciation rule I know of is: "However I think it should be pronounced is guaranteed to be totally wrong."

Modern Chinese transliteration is thankfully somewhat simple. It's a hassle when comparing old transliteration to new transliteration. Chiang Kai-Shek (old) is Jiang JieShi, Wong (old) is Huang, etc. Just learn the pinyin and you should be OK.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Polley » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:42 pm

RexHavoc wrote:I dunno, is molle, "mole","mollie" or "mollay?"


I always said it as "mall," myself...
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby UndeadInfidel » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:44 pm

Polley wrote:
RexHavoc wrote:I dunno, is molle, "mole","mollie" or "mollay?"


I always said it as "mall," myself...


It's pronounced just like the name Molly.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Polley » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:54 pm

Now I just feel like Buffalo Bill.

"Let me go put on my [Molly] vest."
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Bunsen » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:49 pm

Crazy Wolf wrote:
majorhavoc wrote:
brothaman wrote:I tend to fuck up a lot, so I don't let these kinda things bother me too much. With that,.. my bad pronuskeeahuns regarding firearms are...

Recticle instead reticle
Leopold instead Leupold
and Sega instead of Saiga. In this one, not only do I say it wrong,.. I think it wrong, I search it wrong on the google, and in my mind's eye, even at this moment, I see Sonic the Hedgehog running..


I pity the 2 meter/70cm crowd. Yaesu is challanging enough ("Yay Sue"?). Now they have all the low cost radios coming out of China: Wouxun, Baifong, Qixiang and Quansheng. The only ironclad Chinese language pronounciation rule I know of is: "However I think it should be pronounced is guaranteed to be totally wrong."

Modern Chinese transliteration is thankfully somewhat simple. It's a hassle when comparing old transliteration to new transliteration. Chiang Kai-Shek (old) is Jiang JieShi, Wong (old) is Huang, etc. Just learn the pinyin and you should be OK.

Yeah, but the folks who came up with pinyin just wanted an unambiguous way to represent Chinese with the Roman alphabet, and didn't give half a rat's ass if the pronunciation made sense to speakers of any other language. So any letters whose pronunciations in, say, English weren't useful (stuff like C, Q, X, even ZH) just got randomly reassigned to thoroughly unrelated sounds. Combine that with old transliterations that became entrenched, and it's pretty damn confusing unless you put some work into it. I get pretty disappointed with the way we mutilate foreign words (Amarillo? Really, Texas?), but I cut people a lot of slack on Chinese.

This reminds me, I need to get back to learning Mandarin. Such an awesome mindfuck of a language.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Caenus » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:57 pm

The news a few days ago was reporting on Ruger not taking new orders and the anchor (including the graphic behind her) had it listed as "Storm Rugger".

Too bad they didn't have a picture of an AK behind her too.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Polley » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:02 pm

Caenus wrote:The news a few days ago was reporting on Ruger not taking new orders and the anchor (including the graphic behind her) had it listed as "Storm Rugger".

Too bad they didn't have a picture of an AK behind her too.



Yeah, Ruger makes some nice AKs. I've been thinking about getting one myself. According to the news, these AKs are the best.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Maverick299 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:11 pm

One of my good friends growing up had the last name of Koch and the family pronounced it "cook". Seems there might be multiple pronunciations of Koch, or they were just trying to be different.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby yossarian » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:27 pm

Maverick299 wrote:One of my good friends growing up had the last name of Koch and the family pronounced it "cook". Seems there might be multiple pronunciations of Koch, or they were just trying to be different.


Same here. I could be wrong but I think its because the German pronunciation falls somewhere in between our "oo" and our "O". I know we have a couple of German posters on here so maybe they'll stop by and correct me if I'm pulling that out of my ass.

Also, the Russian guy I used to know pronounced the Mosin as "moi-zin" with the "S" falling somewhere between and "s" and a "z". But then he couldn't pronounce "vest" or "verify" either.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Maverick299 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:36 pm

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Maverick299 wrote:One of my good friends growing up had the last name of Koch and the family pronounced it "cook". Seems there might be multiple pronunciations of Koch, or they were just trying to be different.


Same here. I could be wrong but I think its because the German pronunciation falls somewhere in between our "oo" and our "O". I know we have a couple of German posters on here so maybe they'll stop by and correct me if I'm pulling that out of my ass.

Also, the Russian guy I used to know pronounced the Mosin as "moi-zin" with the "S" falling somewhere between and "s" and a "z". But then he couldn't pronounce "vest" or "verify" either.


Could it be a regional accent and possibly be whatever part of Germany their family was from dictated how they pronounced it?
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby painiac » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:13 am

Maverick299 wrote:One of my good friends growing up had the last name of Koch and the family pronounced it "cook". Seems there might be multiple pronunciations of Koch, or they were just trying to be different.


There's not a lot of subtleties in German pronunciation, not like English with its mishmash of words borrowed from many other languages. With some rudimentary instruction (which is all I have), you can look at any German word and be almost completely certain of its correct pronunciation.
The only correct pronunciation of "Koch" in German is pretty much identical to how we say "coke", and Hk does confirm that on their website.

Back in the day, it was pretty common for immigrants to the US to change their surname, or to change the pronunciation of it. Sometimes this was done because of difficulty in translating letter sounds from their language to English. In many other cases, the change was a deliberate attempt to sound more American. The latter case was probably done more often by the generation AFTER the family immigrated here.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby ptAltered » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:58 am

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olbaid_dratsab wrote:Everytime I heard it in the military it was actually meant as "behoove", but then again, I was in the (Ch)AirForce :mrgreen:



Yeah, we have our share of mispronounced/mispoken words in the Air Force. My pet peeve that echoed through the ranks was "incidences" used instead of "incidents". Whenever leadership spoke of "high numbers of incidences" in a weekend, I'd cringe.

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To be pendantic, if you'd said what you wrote "Oh, a .357." You'd have said "Oh, a three hundred fifty seven thousandths". Did you mean you said "Oh, a three-fifty-seven?"

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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Roger Brough » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:27 am

Funny, even the HK employees say it 5 different ways. The answer to your question though, if you are in the factory talking to Germans, is "COKE."

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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby UndeadInfidel » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:47 am

"Orientate" is a staple of land nav courses throughout the military.
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Re: Stuff that is mispronounced

Postby Bunsen » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:21 am

HA! I tried to quote that paragraph of concentrated linguistic suck and correct the fact that he failed to screw up "regardless." Turns out that the forum filters "ir" + "regardless" and drops the "ir." I'll bet I know which mod put that filter in place.

Also, it seems that using "orientate" to mean "to align or position" is considered proper in British English. Makes them all sound like idiots, but there you go.
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