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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby Dagny » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:35 pm

Jamie wrote:5 Reasons 'The Walking Dead' Has to Get Better - on cracked.com

I missed this originally, but it's on the money...

I don't watch it because it's a good show; I watch it because I really want it to be a good show.


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That is a worthwhile article, thanks.

"In adapting the comic, The Walking Dead writers decided to split the Rick character up into Good Guy Rick and Bad Guy Shane, and had them bounce off of each other, rather than having one single character wrestle with opposing moral concepts. But now Shane is dead. Do you see what they've done? They've accidentally written themselves into a corner, and now they have no choice but to make Rick actually grow as a character!"


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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby Mr. E. Monkey » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:36 am

Mannlicher wrote:I thought the Cracked article was overly kind. The show has been a border line disaster so far. Most folks seem to stick with it because it's the only show in town.

We have 168 pages of mostly bitching so far, and there are reasons for that....................

One of them is called Mannlicher. :mrgreen:

Aw, you know I love ya. :P

Nah, but seriously, looking at the ratings, I think the show is doing better than some folks might think. And heck, for the naysayers out there, write something better--you know we'd love to watch it/read it. :D
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby angelofwar » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:01 am

Yeah...it got the best cable rating in 40 years in it's class, IIRC, and broke all kinds of cable ratings...plus, it's better than a sharp stick in the eye :D
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby Skinner01 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:52 am

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with the introduction of Machonne and the govenor and whatever other characters that are introduced in the series i certainly hope for everyones sake the the writers keep the story line clean as it is now , its a fabulous story line the last thing anyone wants to see is silly storylines unfolding
like machonne or the govenor having special powers super human strength or something silly like that , i really like the realism and the suspence of the story line currently , according to the comics if the story is indeed followed the group will encounter more survivors at the prison or somewhere in the story http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Comic ... Characters

Glen Mazzara On THE WALKING DEAD Seasons 3 AND 4; Seems TYRESE Will Be Introduced

The showrunner held a conference call yesterday and hinted at how both the next season, and the one after should shape up. He also says that Tyrese - a very popular character from the comics - is someone they are "interested" in..
Mark "RorMachine" Cassidy - 3/21/2012

Mazzara covered a lot of Walking Dead ground in a conference call yesterday. He addressed the appearance of Michonne at the end of the season 2 finale, as well as the direction they will be going with a few of our already established characters. But most interestingly he discussed the Prison we glimpsed in the final shot of the episode, and exactly how much of the next season our survivors would be spending there. A lot! In fact he says that storyline will carry over to season 4 too. Also, good news for fans of Tyrese, it seems T-Dog won't be assuming the role of that character after all, there are plans to bring him in..



"Right now, I do see the prison storyline lasting through both Season 3 and 4. I do think that is a major storyline. I know we were on the farm, perhaps, longer than people wanted. There were reasons for that. What we want is for that prison to not feel claustrophobic. I think the farm played a little claustrophobic for some people. Now that the entire landscape has fallen victim to the zombie apocalypse, zombies are literally at the gates of this prison. That prison is a very small safe corner. There is a lot of danger around. It won't feel like we are bottled up, the way we were on the farm. I do think that prison is a significant storyline, but we are also interested in opening up this world. The Governor has the world of Woodbury. There are other factors out there, other groups. I do think that Rick's group is stumbling into a much larger world."

"There is a lot of great material from the comic book. This show would have to go on for twenty years to get to all of it. I think the Tyrese character is someone we are interested in introducing at some point. We still have Morgan and Dwayne, who are out there from the pilot. We are interested in them. There are new characters that will be original too the series. Not coming straight from the comic book. I think the first two seasons have served as a prologue. Now we are hitting the ground running. I see Season 3 resetting the show in terms of what I really hope to convey."


He also promises that T-Dog will have much more to do, and if you don't like Lori, that's probably not going to change! Click the link below to read the rest of the interview.


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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby oldsoldier » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:25 am

Majorhavoc, you and I see eye to eye-I wasnt meant to be seen as calling you out.
And, to anyone, again, that has negative things to say about it-thats perfectly fine too. If you dont like, it, you dont like it. Kirkman purposely wrote it different from the GN, so its fresh for EVERYONE. If you dont like the character development, thats OK too. To each their own. Me, I see this like the Lost series-it will have its detractors, and its defenders. A LOT of people didnt care for the final episode of it-me, personally, thought it fit perfectly. I also know a lot of people that watched one or two episodes, and absolutely hated it. Thats OK.
But, as MH pointed out; rarely does a cable series endure such scrutiny. Even rarer than that, is it one about zombies-because, lets face it-a zombie movie REALLY only has one plot; to survive. We get to watch how characters change in relation to their situations, environment, and each other. The grip of this series, to me, at least, is watching this evolution happen. The whole zombie hoards are the catalyst, but the real action is the group dynamics.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby majorhavoc » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:27 am

OK, this is really wierd, I was referencing something you said earlier OldSoldier. When I hit "Submit" I got the alert that "someone" had posted to this thread while I was drafting. This is what I was writing:

Mazzara:
There is a lot of great material from the comic book. This show would have to go on for twenty years to get to all of it.


This certainly validates OldSoldier's recent point that the TV series has to spend more time to effectively deal with various plot points that can be swiftly dealt with in the comics. What works on a few panels of a printed page just wouldn't fly in live action.

Here's hoping they continue to be able to take a good long time to tell this story. Although, Skinner, they may have to introduce at least one superpower-like element to explain why Chandler Rigg's character appears to be aging 4 or 5 years in just a few months of "TV time".

Rick to son: "I'm sorry Carl, you're not going to get the childhood I had. It's time you start acting like a man. 'Cause, now that you're shaving, you're sure starting to look like a man. Now let's check out that prison!"

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ETA: just saw your reference to Ft. Drum, OS. I'm not military, but that's my old stomping grounds. I grew up in Canton, NY, just north of Watertown.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby HuntingBow96 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:35 pm

Skinner01 wrote:
HuntingBow96 wrote:On the wiki page it says The Governor kills Hershel Greene, does the series follow the comic? Will he kill Hershel,He better not kill Daryl :lol: :lol: :lol:

Daryl would pin his head to a Tree with an arrow ................... LOL


Hope so!
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby RickOShea » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:28 pm

HuntingBow96 wrote:
Skinner01 wrote:
HuntingBow96 wrote:On the wiki page it says The Governor kills Hershel Greene, does the series follow the comic? Will he kill Hershel,He better not kill Daryl :lol: :lol: :lol:

Daryl would pin his head to a Tree with an arrow ................... LOL


Hope so!

Nah, I hope the Guv gets the same "comeuppance", from the same character, as he does in the GNs. :twisted:
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby oldsoldier » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:53 pm

Off Topic-Watertown was where we saw the film :).

On Topic-so...as I havent read the GNs as of yet, beyond the first 3, where, exactly, does Michonne fit in? I read up to the prison, and the "incident" with the prisoners, but havent gotten beyond there. Not looking for spoilers, just curious is Michonne makes an appearance at the prison, or separately, like a side story.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby ineffableone » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:16 pm

oldsoldier wrote:Off Topic-Watertown was where we saw the film :).

On Topic-so...as I havent read the GNs as of yet, beyond the first 3, where, exactly, does Michonne fit in? I read up to the prison, and the "incident" with the prisoners, but havent gotten beyond there. Not looking for spoilers, just curious is Michonne makes an appearance at the prison, or separately, like a side story.


You will see her soon if you keep reading. She is part of the main story.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby tireiron » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:59 pm

majorhavoc wrote: ETA: just saw your reference to Ft. Drum, OS. I'm not military, but that's my old stomping grounds. I grew up in Canton, NY, just north of Watertown.


Hey major, my wife went to Hugh C. Williams high school...
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby ausher » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:39 pm

Ive been reading the gn. Im up to where they meet the governor. Man im pissed!
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby majorhavoc » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:24 am

tireiron wrote:Hey major, my wife went to Hugh C. Williams high school...


No shit! What year? I'm 1981.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby Mannlicher » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:32 pm

I fired up season one on the computer today, and was watching some of the first episodes. In the one entitled 'tell it to the frogs', it opens with shane surprising lori in the woods, and some fairly graphic sex between them. Lori was all OVER shane, and seemed to be in heaven.
I really believe she was more in love with Shane than she was with Rick, and that showed in her reaction to Rick telling her he killed her lover.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby RickOShea » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:17 pm

Mannlicher wrote:I fired up season one on the computer today, and was watching some of the first episodes. In the one entitled 'tell it to the frogs', it opens with shane surprising lori in the woods, and some fairly graphic sex between them. Lori was all OVER shane, and seemed to be in heaven.
I really believe she was more in love with Shane than she was with Rick, and that showed in her reaction to Rick telling her he killed her lover.

"Transitional" relationships tend to have two qualities: 1) they're "hot & heavy". 2) They're almost always short lived.

I'm thinking she reacted the way she did because Rick told her that Shane would no longer be a problem. Which lead her to have a heart-to-heart with Shane, in which she apologized and accepted her share of the blame.

So here she is, thinking things are on the path to Honkydoryville, and the next thing she knows, Rick is telling her how he had to shiv Shane......And how her son put him down after he turned.

So now her husband and son have two things in common: They've both suffered gunshot wounds and they've both killed Shane. :wink:
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby majorhavoc » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:21 pm

Mannlicher wrote:I fired up season one on the computer today, and was watching some of the first episodes. In the one entitled 'tell it to the frogs', it opens with shane surprising lori in the woods, and some fairly graphic sex between them. Lori was all OVER shane, and seemed to be in heaven.
I really believe she was more in love with Shane than she was with Rick, and that showed in her reaction to Rick telling her he killed her lover.


I don't know if she was more in love with Shane than Rick, but she was in love with everyone's favorite post apocalyptic bad boy. And Shane was giving her something that Rick never could. To say that she was conflicted about these two men would be an understatement. Going back to the very first episode, Rick confiding in Shane that things were not all honky dory in the Grimes household. And later that same episode when Lori was confiding to her girlfriend that sometimes Rick was too reasonable, that just once she wished he would lose it a bit, suggests that Lori was looking for something, maybe more passion in her husband.

Any female members who would like to go a bit deeper into that analysis, I'm all ears. What I wrote above is the extent to which I understand the inner world of women. I'd love to expand my knowledge in that regard.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby Gun_Nut_2k1 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:23 am

RickOShea wrote:So now her husband and son have two things in common: They've both suffered gunshot wounds and they've both killed Shane. :wink:


Um both are guys, both have the same last name, and both hold the handgun like a sissy. :lol:
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby Skinner01 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:51 am

i dont mean to stray off topic but i think i have the answer to this puzzler with lori , and im sure most of you guys will prob agree .......comon guys lori displays typical psyci as many married women do in society today , everytime you read an article about married this or married that , the wife is having an affair with the husbands best friend or thinking about it or whatever what makes lori any different , shane was strong and hardened , had the badboy mentality typical turn on trates for a woman , not to mention how many times in our lives guys have we heard this story , oh my wife or my girlfriend slept with my best friend or ran off with my best friend and so on .......dont bother trying to analize a womans
behavior cause your gonna fail everytime you try ,years ago when i was in high school i kicked the crap out of a guy on the football feild over a girl ,how many of u have fought over a girl in your life ? us guys have been battling over women for ages .... some of the Most feirce wars in history were fought over a woman because a woman has what we want ..... plain and simple shane was lori's " fantasy " and rick and carl killed that " Fantasy " so shes pissed .....think about it you know im right guys .
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby majorhavoc » Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:27 am

Skinner01 wrote:i dont mean to stray off topic but i think i have the answer to this puzzler with lori , and im sure most of you guys will prob agree .......comon guys lori displays typical psyci as many married women do in society today , everytime you read an article about married this or married that , the wife is having an affair with the husbands best friend or thinking about it or whatever what makes lori any different , shane was strong and hardened , had the badboy mentality typical turn on trates for a woman , not to mention how many times in our lives guys have we heard this story , oh my wife or my girlfriend slept with my best friend or ran off with my best friend and so on .......dont bother trying to analize a womans
behavior cause your gonna fail everytime you try ,years ago when i was in high school i kicked the crap out of a guy on the football feild over a girl ,how many of u have fought over a girl in your life ? us guys have been battling over women for ages .... some of the Most feirce wars in history were fought over a woman because a woman has what we want ..... plain and simple shane was lori's " fantasy " and rick and carl killed that " Fantasy " so shes pissed .....think about it you know im right guys .


Be honest now. How old are you, Skinner?
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby SeerSavant » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:22 am

I think Lori has no idea what she really wants or needs, but liked the idea of having two "options"... Now she no longer has that choice...

I am not so sure it has anything to do with Carl;

A; she's not exactly been showing parent of the year skills...

and B; she's probably realizing that this is all centered on her, and so it really lays on her lap... but she didn't have a choice...


Lori is too much like Shane (it's all about her...) to see beyond herself... Their (her and ricks) marraige was on the skids, and that's a two way street, I think part of waht was driving the two of them apart pre PAW is still driving them apart... He is her protector, but she had a back up protector, and now that's gone...


So plan A has removed plan B for her survival... She's peeved.... and shallow.... and not much more...


Opinions of course, the show could write her better....
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby KentsOkay » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:49 pm

majorhavoc wrote:
Skinner01 wrote:i dont mean to stray off topic but i think i have the answer to this puzzler with lori , and im sure most of you guys will prob agree .......comon guys lori displays typical psyci as many married women do in society today , everytime you read an article about married this or married that , the wife is having an affair with the husbands best friend or thinking about it or whatever what makes lori any different , shane was strong and hardened , had the badboy mentality typical turn on trates for a woman , not to mention how many times in our lives guys have we heard this story , oh my wife or my girlfriend slept with my best friend or ran off with my best friend and so on .......dont bother trying to analize a womans
behavior cause your gonna fail everytime you try ,years ago when i was in high school i kicked the crap out of a guy on the football feild over a girl ,how many of u have fought over a girl in your life ? us guys have been battling over women for ages .... some of the Most feirce wars in history were fought over a woman because a woman has what we want ..... plain and simple shane was lori's " fantasy " and rick and carl killed that " Fantasy " so shes pissed .....think about it you know im right guys .


Be honest now. How old are you, Skinner?

Old enough to know women belong in the kitchen?

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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby MVegas » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:07 pm

KentsOkay wrote:
majorhavoc wrote:
Skinner01 wrote:i dont mean to stray off topic but i think i have the answer to this puzzler with lori , and im sure most of you guys will prob agree .......comon guys lori displays typical psyci as many married women do in society today , everytime you read an article about married this or married that , the wife is having an affair with the husbands best friend or thinking about it or whatever what makes lori any different , shane was strong and hardened , had the badboy mentality typical turn on trates for a woman , not to mention how many times in our lives guys have we heard this story , oh my wife or my girlfriend slept with my best friend or ran off with my best friend and so on .......dont bother trying to analize a womans
behavior cause your gonna fail everytime you try ,years ago when i was in high school i kicked the crap out of a guy on the football feild over a girl ,how many of u have fought over a girl in your life ? us guys have been battling over women for ages .... some of the Most feirce wars in history were fought over a woman because a woman has what we want ..... plain and simple shane was lori's " fantasy " and rick and carl killed that " Fantasy " so shes pissed .....think about it you know im right guys .


Be honest now. How old are you, Skinner?

Old enough to know women belong in the kitchen?


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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby L1Z4RD » Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:38 pm

So.........what else is there to watch on sundays?
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