What is a scarier prospect?

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What is a scarier prospect?

Postby ZomBosox » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:06 am

What do you think is a scarier prospect - A zombie apocalypse where most of mankind is wiped out and your forced to battle the living dead or a real life invasion by a foreign country with what seems like insurmountable odds of victory? With that being said how would your preparation differ for both? How would they be the same?
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby Tater Raider » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:15 am

Psy-Ops can't work on Zombies, you can't defeat them via morale busters, you can't undermine their support from their home country...

Zombies are far worse.

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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby crypto » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:17 am

ZomBosox wrote:What do you think is a scarier prospect - A zombie apocalypse where most of mankind is wiped out and your forced to battle the living dead or a real life invasion by a foreign country with what seems like insurmountable odds of victory? With that being said how would your preparation differ for both? How would they be the same?




Zombies are way worse because no one turns into a Communist after being killed.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby BigDaddyTX » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:21 am

crypto wrote:
ZomBosox wrote:What do you think is a scarier prospect - A zombie apocalypse where most of mankind is wiped out and your forced to battle the living dead or a real life invasion by a foreign country with what seems like insurmountable odds of victory? With that being said how would your preparation differ for both? How would they be the same?




Zombies are way worse because no one turns into a Communist after being killed.

:lol: You can posthumously be a scientologist though.

It depends. I don't think a Zombpocolypse would get that far unless it started in Asia, and even then I think America would be in okay shape. I'd be worried about a foreign invasion just because of the kinds of weapons they could and would have to use to subdue us.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby Bob Bobberino » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:18 pm

Foreign invasion, for a number of reasons. One, zombies aren't real. Two, if zombies WERE real, it'd basically be like a bunch of special needs kids decided to start attacking people. If it's necessary to bite somebody to infect them, there might be an outbreak in a city, the city would be quarantined, and hopefully everybody would know to shoot the shambling, moaning, drooling guys and anybody that they bit. Outbreak over.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby phil_in_cs » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:19 pm

Zombies are more likely than a foreign invasion of the US.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby Tater Raider » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:51 pm

phil_in_cs wrote:Zombies are more likely than a foreign invasion of the US at this time.

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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby mantis » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:15 pm

phil_in_cs wrote:Zombies are more likely than a foreign invasion of the US.


North America is about as secure from invasion as any place on earth. We're protected by three oceans and en enormous land mass that would be nearly impossible for any invader to occupy and control. The only time that Canada or the US was invaded was when we went back and forth invading each other during the war of 1812.

The only realistic foregin attack scenario against North America would be an air/missile attack and we are extremely well defeded against air attacks via NORAD. Nobody has the kind of man-power needed to mount a ground invasion and certainly nobody has the massive transport capacity that would be required. The only place that anyone could potentially stage troops for an invasion would be Mexico and there isn't even a remote chance they could do so without being noticed - even if the Mexicans were agreeable to them doing it.

The Red Dawn Scenario of the Russians crossing the Bearing Straight and attacking through Alaska into Canada and south to the US isn't workable. The interior of Alaska, Yukon and Northwest Territories, outside of a handful of major cities is devoid of major roadways that would be needed to move a mechanized force south and that doens't even take into account the problems with getting a force large enough accross the straight!
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby bonanacrom » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:44 pm

I'll give ya an unlikely prospect to fear, the mother-ship returning and handing me the keys.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby Tater Raider » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:48 pm

Yanno, that I would fear for some odd reason.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby JesterODX » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:46 pm

Zombies dont use ak47's rpg's and migs. I'd rather deal with zombies.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby Tater Raider » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:32 pm

Zombies don't sleep. I'd rather deal with _____.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby AwPhuch » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:35 pm

Zombies...because if you killed an enemy, they wouldn't get back up and increase their forces...
Plus with fighting and enemy even though insurmountable odds...eventually they will make a song or a movie about you....zombies...braaaaaains

The only caveat is zombies are non-intelligent...but are a force of nature...enough of them can tear thru pretty much anything
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby AKFTW » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:41 pm

AwPhuch wrote:Zombies...because if you killed an enemy, they wouldn't get back up and increase their forces...
Plus with fighting and enemy even though insurmountable odds...eventually they will make a song or a movie about you....zombies...braaaaaains

The only caveat is zombies are non-intelligent...but are a force of nature...enough of them can tear thru pretty much anything


Agreed. Zombies, assuming they are dumb, brainless walkers, could be eliminated far more easily than an enemy powerful or ballsy enough to invade the mainland US. Targeting hordes of unarmed shambling corpses, vs trying to fight a guerrilla war against a modern army equipped with any small arms imaginable, air power, thermal and NVGs, tanks, etc...I'll take the zombies any day, thanks.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby grennels » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:49 pm

mantis wrote:
phil_in_cs wrote:Zombies are more likely than a foreign invasion of the US.


North America is about as secure from invasion as any place on earth. We're protected by three oceans and en enormous land mass that would be nearly impossible for any invader to occupy and control. The only time that Canada or the US was invaded was when we went back and forth invading each other during the war of 1812.






Fairly minor quibble but the Japanese invaded the Aleutian Islands during WWII.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby RoneKiln » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:21 am

Even in Red Dawn, the movie is preceded with text describing major political changes in the world to allow that scenario to be plausible.

Rage virus would be the most scary to me. In that event I just prepare to go down swinging. Slow shambling hordes caused by virus is kinda laughable to me. It couldn't spread quick enough to be a threat. Slow shambling hordes caused for no known reason, meaning all the dead in the world mysteriously get up and attack us, is a bit more frightening. I'd prepare for that the same as I'd prepare for civil unrest or severe economic breakdown. Lots of food, water, cooking fuel, and ammo.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby Tater Raider » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:43 am

grennels wrote:
mantis wrote:
phil_in_cs wrote:Zombies are more likely than a foreign invasion of the US.


North America is about as secure from invasion as any place on earth. We're protected by three oceans and en enormous land mass that would be nearly impossible for any invader to occupy and control. The only time that Canada or the US was invaded was when we went back and forth invading each other during the war of 1812.


Fairly minor quibble but the Japanese invaded the Aleutian Islands during WWII.

Took possesstion of 2 of them as part of a decoy action for the Midway Invasion or to protect their northern flank, depending upon the historian, but they never invaded the US mainland. Wiki has a nice article on it, short and sweet but with enough detail to make it worth reading.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby maverick223 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:06 am

A very strong deminishing virus, I have chosen that because it is way more likely than a zombie outbreak. The economic structure would fall apart, which would start riots for food, medical supplies and so on. Much like Contagion, I know there's more but its early so please forgive my mistakes.

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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby DFWMTX » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:26 am

I'd rather fight the zombies. Zombies are stupid and don't learn from mistakes made on the battlefield. Nor do zombies shoot back, use artillery, close-air support or missiles fired from UAVs. Nor do zombies use IEDs, boobytraps, landmines, or grenades. Granted, their nightvision is questionable, but zombies don't have SWAT-style CQB tactics.

An enemy using any of the aforementioned weapons/tactics scares me more. Luckily my AO has two big oceans bordering it on two sides, making it hard to be invaded. And those who share our borders don't seem inclined to invade.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby ZomBosox » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:51 pm

I think it would also depend if the zombies were "runners" or "walkers" or even "draggers." "Runners" would definitely make for a scarier opponent.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby Mr. E. Monkey » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:22 pm

ZomBosox wrote:I think it would also depend if the zombies were "runners" or "walkers" or even "draggers." "Runners" would definitely make for a scarier opponent.

True.

If they are runners, though, we're probably talking 28 days later style ragers, which means it shouldn't take a headshot. That, and I doubt they'd last long in a good Arizona summer. :mrgreen:
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby ZomBosox » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:17 pm

Mr. E. Monkey wrote: True.

If they are runners, though, we're probably talking 28 days later style ragers, which means it shouldn't take a headshot. That, and I doubt they'd last long in a good Arizona summer. :mrgreen:


Yes thats also true. It would seem like at least there wouldnt be much inteligent life left in them too. So i would have to agree, a fully armed invasion would be scarier. Zombies cant pick you off at 500 Yds with a rifle.
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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby Viper shtf » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:49 pm

crypto wrote:
ZomBosox wrote:What do you think is a scarier prospect - A zombie apocalypse where most of mankind is wiped out and your forced to battle the living dead or a real life invasion by a foreign country with what seems like insurmountable odds of victory? With that being said how would your preparation differ for both? How would they be the same?




Zombies are way worse because no one turns into a Communist after being killed.


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Re: What is a scarier prospect?

Postby Wolfblade » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:49 am

I would always choose zombies over any human army in the world. Zombies don't learn, don't adapt. The worst they can do is tear you apart. Zombies are child's play compared to the sadistic depravity that human beings can be capable of.
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