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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby Doctor Zed » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:49 am

Offroad94 wrote:To those talking about the zombies heading toward the gun shot, it wasn't a gun shot but rather "gun shots." Remember Shane shot when he was stabbed which is what got the notice of the zombies and the shot Carl let off was when let them zero in on the location. The one thing that annoyed me in the episode was in the beginning they break the barb wire fence to get to the zombie. Why would you do that to such a useful tool. Also should't they keep a better eye on the herd. The zombies were chomping on a fresh steak when the group showed up. If it was me I would of cut the usable acreage down dramatically. Then took the barb wire and set up a perimeter closer to the house. You could also set traps, digging trenches along the fence line or setting up trip lines. Because the bones of the zombies have to be brittle at this point, if you could break the ankle/legs of some it would make it a lot easier to repel an attack.


There's so much that the group could do better. I know that in a stressful situation it's easy to panic but the Zombie 'situation' has been going on for months in their fictional world and they have had a lengthy period of respite on the farm, there should have been plenty of time to consolidate, think and plan to be proactive; Get the house fortified and well supplied, keep lights out at night (or have blackout blinds) get fences repaired and keep gates shut. Put the cows in the most distant barn at night and keep them in a single, monitored area during the day. Try not to be observed by Zombies as you come and go from the farm. Don't go wandering around in the dark. Stay in pairs. - especially don't let the kid wander off around the land on his own!! Have a bug-out plan in place. These people are supposedly living with the day to day threat of being eaten alive - you'd think that they'd at least have a few ideas about how to make themselves safer.

Guns are a real double edged sword since they carry the potential to attract walkers at the sound of the shot(s), the more shots the more potential for unwanted attention - at least they have shown that Rick has started to figure that using quieter methods is smarter and is telling the others. Saves ammo for when you really need it too.

They should develop that - I'd guess that weapons like a pike would be pretty useful against isolated or small groups of Zombies. Also everyone should have a machete. Crossbows for taking out walkers stealthily at a distance. Keep the guns as a last resort or for specific situations where they make tactical sense. Oh yeah, and if you think there's a danger of walkers ina given area then wear some sensible clothing! It doesn't have to be a suit of armour but thick clothing and gloves along with helmets would be sensible at avoiding bites.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby Silent Kube » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:43 am

I only use GN when I type it because I'm too lazy to type the whole thing out. In meatspace I call it the comic.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby UndeadInfidel » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:37 am

Jamie wrote:I love the invention of the term "graphic novel" to allow people to avoid saying that they're reading a comic book or a picture book... :twisted:

...and the use of the contracted form, GN, which lets them avoid saying "Graphic Novel"...

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I always thought the graphic novel label meant that it was a REALLY THICK comic book. Typically graphic novels are released on a less frequent basis and contain a few hundred pages of material... so... novel.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby HuntingBow96 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:56 am

So is the next episode the alst in the season? What are your predictions for that. And are Daryl and Glenn still in the woods :shock:
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby majorhavoc » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:05 pm

This Sunday is indeed the season finale. And yes, Glenn and Darryl aren't out of the wood yet. :lol:
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby HuntingBow96 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:13 pm

majorhavoc wrote:This Sunday is indeed the season finale. And yes, Glenn and Darryl aren't out of the wood yet. :lol:


Hopefully they will be ok! :lol:
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby oldsoldier » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:05 am

My predictions for this weekend:
Maggie bites it (pun TOTALLY intended!!!). This will strengthen both Glenn and Herschel as characters. And, drive the plot in a completely different direction, setting Herschel, and his remaining group, up to leave the farm.
T-Dawg HOPEFULLY develops more. I REALLY dont want him killed off, but it MAY happen.
The inevitable fight at the farm, they are almost overrun, when the mystery group is drawn to them by the sounds of gunfire, and save them-only to take the farm (either after Herschel abandons it, or by force).
Andrea becomes the new antihero-she lost Dale, whom she was close to, and now Shane, who she sympathized with-agreed with his ideas, not his presentations.
Carol is a wildcard-she will either become a strong woman, and a counter to Andrea, or be killed off.
I envision the closing scene of them cresting a hill, and seeing the prison. Camera pans in, sees walkers in the courtyard, then focuses on the group, Rick central camera, and they make some sort of remark like "welcome to our new home, time to take out the trash", then are seen proceeding towards the prison. Close scene.
Well, thats how I would write it, anyway....guess we will see!!!
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby catalyst » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:36 am

oldsoldier wrote:My predictions for this weekend:
Maggie bites it (pun TOTALLY intended!!!). This will strengthen both Glenn and Herschel as characters. And, drive the plot in a completely different direction, setting Herschel, and his remaining group, up to leave the farm.
T-Dawg HOPEFULLY develops more. I REALLY dont want him killed off, but it MAY happen.
The inevitable fight at the farm, they are almost overrun, when the mystery group is drawn to them by the sounds of gunfire, and save them-only to take the farm (either after Herschel abandons it, or by force).
Andrea becomes the new antihero-she lost Dale, whom she was close to, and now Shane, who she sympathized with-agreed with his ideas, not his presentations.
Carol is a wildcard-she will either become a strong woman, and a counter to Andrea, or be killed off.
I envision the closing scene of them cresting a hill, and seeing the prison. Camera pans in, sees walkers in the courtyard, then focuses on the group, Rick central camera, and they make some sort of remark like "welcome to our new home, time to take out the trash", then are seen proceeding towards the prison. Close scene.
Well, thats how I would write it, anyway....guess we will see!!!


My Prediction - Carl isn't traumatized in the least by killing his "almost a stepfather". In fact, I think he's going to be like, "its OK dad" when Rick tries to console him.

Lori is going to freak out, and secretly wonder if Rick whacked Shane, being happy for the most part, but secretly missing the rough side of Shane. There was something animalistic about that guy - in the fact that he had no filter - he just acted on Raw emotion and instinct. With his training, it got him far, until someone smarter than him realized wtf the deal was. Good Job Rick, but you're still a pansy in my eyes for your inability to act until its too late and someone HAS to die. Had you dispelled this crap months ago, Shane would be boinking Andrea - because her survivability FAR EXCEEDS Lori's constant ability only to whine/manipulate and Shane would know that.

Farm gets overrun - Hershal loses at least half his family, and potentially one gets bit (if i had to guess, it'd be maggie's sis who now wants to live) and we have to watch maggie put her down - which brings back some of the emotional side of Andrea, and might cause her and maggie to bond more, or maybe it just messes them both up completely.

T-dog is going to walk around a bit, say 1-2 lines that do nothing for the story, and be in the next season as a larger role.

Daryl is going to lose it and go nut on zombies - totally risking his life doing crazy kills.

Rick is going to ponder life and think about doing something while people are dying around him. Just before they all are about to die, he will come forth and do something witty and save them all.

glen will risk his life.

sophia's mom (i dont even remember her name) is going to scream and cry because that is what she was hired for. She might also die, because all she does is scream and cry.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby Skinner01 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:40 am

i was always hopeing that guy that got left on the roof and cut his hand off to get away would come back . somehow someway
hes gotta be hidden in the story line somehow because he just disappeared with out a trace , maybe hes a Zombie maybe not .
it would be Great to see daryl reunited with his brother

Oldsoldier : has a good idea about them coming up on a Prison at the close of the finale now that would be interesting to say the least .
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby ninja-elbow » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:53 am

Re Graphic Novel, Trade Paperback, and Comic Book

I was in the retail end of the business until last summer. Still on the creator side now.
Comic Book = the monthly release of a title, what we all commonly know. aka "floppy".
Graphic Novel = a big comic book, usually a story in that format only.
Trade Paper Back = a collection of comic books in one bound version. Retailed after the release of the floppys, makes it easier and sometiems more affordable to catch up on floppys you missed.

GN and TPB look exactly the same, though TPB is a newer term than GN. In the industry it is perfectly OK to refer to TPBs as GNs as GN is the more recognizable term for mass use. As a retailer I preferred people to call them graphic novels as it meant we were all on the same page.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby majorhavoc » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:21 pm

ninja-elbow wrote:Re Graphic Novel, Trade Paperback, and Comic Book

I was in the retail end of the business until last summer. Still on the creator side now.
Comic Book = the monthly release of a title, what we all commonly know. aka "floppy".
Graphic Novel = a big comic book, usually a story in that format only.
Trade Paper Back = a collection of comic books in one bound version. Retailed after the release of the floppys, makes it easier and sometiems more affordable to catch up on floppys you missed.

GN and TPB look exactly the same, though TPB is a newer term than GN. In the industry it is perfectly OK to refer to TPBs as GNs as GN is the more recognizable term for mass use. As a retailer I preferred people to call them graphic novels as it meant we were all on the same page.



So my beloved Calvin and Hobbes collections are Trade Paper Backs because they're collections of Sunday comic in one bound volume, right? And my TWD Compendium is more of Graphic Novel because it's a continuous story. But wait....TWD was originally published in serial form. So it's a collection of individual comics, making it more of a TPB? And one of the joys of Calvin and Hobbes is Watterson would string successive Sunday strips into a series of contiguous story lines. So could C&H be more of a serialized graphic novel?

And, and, TWD, see, maybe it's not a true TPB, but a... a....a Graphic Novel published in serial form. Yeah! T-that's the ticket! But wait! Then there was the Watchmen, and they didn't all come out together, so how can they be a pure GN? And even Spiegelman had a sequel to his Maus book. If those two graphic novels ever get sold as a single bound volume, do they suddenly become a TPB? Would than mean he'd have to give his Pulitzer Prize back?

And then of course there were all my "Sgt. Rock" and "War is Hell" comics from the seventies. Being a kid and all I never realized they might be worth something someday, so I stapled them all together. Stupid, I know. But-but does that mean they're now a...a.... Serialized Trade Novel in Paper Back Graphic Form, or a....or a.......<head explodes> KA-BLOOIE!

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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby EricinVirginia » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:08 pm

My predictions...
- Carol dies saving Daryl.
- Maggie's sister gets infected and almost kills Glenn, forcing Maggie to save Glenn and "get" what Glenn is going through. It constipates their relationship but they resume being in love.
- Daryl figures out that Rick killed Shane and gives Rick huge props.
- TDawg wanders around doing stuff and somehow survives.
- Lori continues to be whiney and someone like the unnamed farm helpers die saving her life.
- Daryl goes nuts on zombies leads the group out of the farm via an escape path he mapped out weeks prior, which takes them to the prison.
- Andrea gets wounded and is assumed captured by the other group.

As they are escaping, the other mystery group shows up and distracts the zombies long enough for Rick's group to escape.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby HuntingBow96 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:19 pm

Daryl to survive the whole thing!
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby 3Fingas » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:06 pm

The only way they are going to kill Daryl off is if he asks for too much money in the next contract negotiation. I don't see that happening anytime soon as he has said in numerous interviews that he loves being on this show and it is his best gig ever.

That makes me very happy as he is character I like the most.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby ineffableone » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:10 pm

So I started reading the GN, and wow the differences are amazing. Shane was a whinning little bitch who was waiting for the government to come save him. LOL. Rather than the guy who adapted to Zpaw he was the guy who lived in denial and was delusional thinking everything would be back to normal any day now. Also he was killed off while still in the first camp. Also Dale, OMG, he was having sex with Andrea, and maybe Amy before she died. Dale also outlives Shane, who was the weak link in the GN.

Very interesting how different the GN is from the show. Really worth checking out for those who haven't yet. It seems there is really very little comparison in story though. The GN folks actually actively scavange, Rick goes and finds a gun store and stocks up, rather than the bag of guns he dropped in the show. Glenn had been going daily into the city to get supplies, and was given a much more important role due to this. Very amazing the differences from GN to show. Honestly I think the GN is a better representation of Zpaw and human nature while the show has been dumbed down for average American audience with added drama for all the Jersey Shore, Real Housewife, and other stupid reality show lovers.

So if your annoyed with the BS in the show, check out the GN for a better story.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby Skinner01 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:28 am

so if everyone is indeed a carrier and doesnt need to be bitten or scratched like the guy at the CDC said earlier in the series , that would explain why the kid and
shane stood up . cool ,,,,i really like the prison theary to . is the prison in the GN ?

also i would agree that you would think with all the military stuff laying around in earlier episodes weapons etc , the group could of been better armed
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby majorhavoc » Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:01 am

Skinner01 wrote:so if everyone is indeed a carrier and doesnt need to be bitten or scratched like the guy at the CDC said earlier in the series , that would explain why the kid and
shane stood up . cool ,,,,i really like the prison theary to . is the prison in the GN ?

also i would agree that you would think with all the military stuff laying around in earlier episodes weapons etc , the group could of been better armed


Yeah, the prison is in the GN. It may or may not appear in the series but I think everyone agrees the characters need to get the hell off that farm.

And we actually don't know (yet) what Jenner (the CDC guy) said earlier in the series. He whispered something into Rick's ear, and the interwebz has been abuzz since.

We readers of the GN in some ways have a leg up on the directions the story might go, but the TV series has diverged so much from the source material that all we're doing is guessing. I think in general the fans really appreciate that; I know I do. It would be kind of a bummer if we could call every plot development before it happened.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby ineffableone » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:44 am

majorhavoc wrote:We readers of the GN in some ways have a leg up on the directions the story might go, but the TV series has diverged so much from the source material that all we're doing is guessing. I think in general the fans really appreciate that; I know I do. It would be kind of a bummer if we could call every plot development before it happened.


Diverged? LOL they are completely different stories with similar premise and similar names for characters. It is sort of like the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy book vs movie, similar, but completely different.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby ninja-elbow » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:25 pm

The stories weave in and out of each other. I appreciate the divergence since I'm a GN geek since inception 8 years ago. I get just enough similarities that I think I know where it's going but, as is typical Kirkman fashion, I get thrown for a loop by the end of the story.

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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby kdalton » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:50 pm

Merle is confirmed to return in Season 3.

http://dailydead.com/the-walking-dead-s ... -as-merle/

In addition there are going to be more webisodes this summer.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby Jamie » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:07 pm

I'm excited to watch it, knowing full well that it's going to stink...yup, I'm that guy!

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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby RickOShea » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:28 pm

ninja-elbow wrote:The stories weave in and out of each other. I appreciate the divergence since I'm a GN geek since inception 8 years ago. I get just enough similarities that I think I know where it's going but, as is typical Kirkman fashion, I get thrown for a loop by the end of the story.

I enjoy spotting the little things, like the "Pill Box" sign on the Winnebago (My Grandpaw had a '78 Chieftain) or Carl's T-shirt with the paw print logo.

Also, I keep seeing listed on the "firearm ID" web sites that TV Dale was using a Ruger M77 rifle. Demunn was actually carrying a long action Rem. 700 ADL LS.......Guess I may never know if he was a .270 or .30-06 man. :(
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby ineffableone » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:23 pm

RickOShea wrote:
ninja-elbow wrote:The stories weave in and out of each other. I appreciate the divergence since I'm a GN geek since inception 8 years ago. I get just enough similarities that I think I know where it's going but, as is typical Kirkman fashion, I get thrown for a loop by the end of the story.

I enjoy spotting the little things, like the "Pill Box" sign on the Winnebago (My Grandpaw had a '78 Chieftain) or Carl's T-shirt with the paw print logo.

Also, I keep seeing listed on the "firearm ID" web sites that TV Dale was using a Ruger M77 rifle. Demunn was actually carrying a long action Rem. 700 ADL LS.......Guess I may never know if he was a .270 or .30-06 man. :(


I agree that the two not being mirror images is a good thing, it keeps the GN reader from knowing what is already going to happen, and leaves a lot to be found for people (like me) who go back and read the GN after watching the series.

It is just interesting how different things were, like the very different personality of Shane or Dale out living Shane. for example.

As mentioned though this does make it well worth it for people who haven't read the GN to read it. Honestly I like the GN better, as I mentioned, the Characters seem to be more aware they are in Zpaw in the GN and that normal rules no longer apply, well except Shane. LOL.
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Re: "Walking Dead" Cable Series

Postby Skinner01 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:23 pm

kdalton wrote:Merle is confirmed to return in Season 3.

http://dailydead.com/the-walking-dead-s ... -as-merle/

In addition there are going to be more webisodes this summer.


see now thats cool right there , even though he played a seeming short role in the earlier episodes i thought he could of made a
serious impact in the groups survival considering the way his character was portraied , seemingly being the hardcore outdoors man
hunter type etc . his disapperance in the show earlier , and the signs of his escape , his survival etc surely gave some apperance that he may reappear sooner or later
Plus the idea that the series deviates from the GN so much is a good thing because Now the Fans cant or in some cases dont bother to follow
the events in the GN and
have that element of surprise as to whats gonna happen next , these writers knew what they were doing without a doubt .

as for the theary that everyone is infected already , seeing the clue that the kid shane was after had no bites or scratchs darly noticed yet he turned and shane stood up minutes after rick shanked his A$$ , which is what he should of done way earlier i think i never like Shanes A$$ anyway . is a good clue that that theary maybe true , plus the fact that there are so many mass ( Walkers ) meaning that this story prob. had to be of course a ( Bio-outbreak ) natually that spread , so many people were killed hence so many ( walkers ) , so the idea that everyone is a carrier is prob true . in the episode at the CDC i recall Doc. Jenner taking the Blood samples but i dont re-call anyone getting or hearing about any results so he prob already knew . plus the Doc , saying there is No ( Cure )
is also a good clue . im gonna have to sitdown and pull up netflix and watch that episode and really pay more attn to that 1 again .
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