All purpose NFA questions thread

[Regular Guy]

Whats the oal a pistol have to be to be able to use a stock and or a vfg?

Pistols can NEVER have stocks. The VFG OAL for a pistol is 27.8" in this instance. It's a tricky length but technically it's not a pistol, it's a firearm. Firearms have a different legal definition. Yeah, I know, right.

http://www.franklinarmory.com/XO-26_Letter__c_.pdf

[OldSchool45b]

Whats the oal a pistol have to be to be able to use a stock and or a vfg?

Pistols can NEVER have stocks. The VFG OAL for a pistol is 27.8" in this instance. It's a tricky length but technically it's not a pistol, it's a firearm. Firearms have a different legal definition. Yeah, I know, right.

http://www.franklinarmory.com/XO-26_Letter__c_.pdf

That is not exactly true. There are pistols that have been granted exceptions by the ATF due to their historical significance and moved onto the C&R list, as pistols. Examples are the broom handled Mausers, artillery Lugers, some Browning "artillery" highpowers and a few select 1911's. I own one of the Brownings with a stock (actually it is an Inglis highpower but it is a Browning design).

You are correct in that a pistol can not have a stock because it becomes a SBR. But there are a few that are still pistols that are allowed to have stocks.

[hatchtrikk]

Sending SBR paperwork out tomorrow. Fresh 6 month start for this, 3 more months to go on the SLR.

Tax stamps are the most boring way to spend money. Until the payoff, of course

Check cashed 3/14/12

I'll update once it's pending.

Here we go again

[UndeadInfidel]

Sending SBR paperwork out tomorrow. Fresh 6 month start for this, 3 more months to go on the SLR.

Tax stamps are the most boring way to spend money. Until the payoff, of course

Check cashed 3/14/12

I'll update once it's pending.

Here we go again

The wait sucks ass now that it's 6+ months, that's for sure. I'm about 5 months in and it's killing me.

[Regular Guy]

My CLEO is taking his sweet, sweet time with my 7.62 can paperwork. I can't complain though, he does sign them.

Eta wouldn't it be nice to do one background check and get a NFA card. That allowed you to walk in to a store and just buy the NFA item. Dream a little dream.

[nimdabew]

My CLEO is taking his sweet, sweet time with my 7.62 can paperwork. I can't complain though, he does sign them.

Eta wouldn't it be nice to do one background check and get a NFA card. That allowed you to walk in to a store and just buy the NFA item. Dream a little dream.

That would be pretty sweet, but that would mean I buy a lot more NFA stuff though.

[hatchtrikk]

Eta wouldn't it be nice to do one background check and get a NFA card. That allowed you to walk in to a store and just buy the NFA item. Dream a little dream.

What a happy thought

[Regular Guy]

Eta wouldn't it be nice to do one background check and get a NFA card. That allowed you to walk in to a store and just buy the NFA item. Dream a little dream.

What a happy thought

I mean really, why are you getting a background check on each item? Have it signed off on by the CLEO, a 4410 and and a NFA card. If you're good to go to get a carry permit, why not a NFA card? I'd still say the CLEO would be necessary to make sure the buyer isn't under current investigation but if I can buy any non-NFA gun with a carry permit and not do a NCIS check, why not NFA?

It will never happen but I can dream.

[UndeadInfidel]

Eta wouldn't it be nice to do one background check and get a NFA card. That allowed you to walk in to a store and just buy the NFA item. Dream a little dream.

What a happy thought

I mean really, why are you getting a background check on each item? Have it signed off on by the CLEO, a 4410 and and a NFA card. If you're good to go to get a carry permit, why not a NFA card? I'd still say the CLEO would be necessary to make sure the buyer isn't under current investigation but if I can buy any non-NFA gun with a carry permit and not do a NCIS check, why not NFA?

It will never happen but I can dream.

Because ASSASSINS and TERRORISTS are the only ones that REALLY need silencers and short barrels!

[hatchtrikk]

Shit, it could be set up just like a CHL. Renew every 5 years, revoked for same reasons a CHL would be. Pay the 200 dollar tax per NFA item. WTH not? They wouldn't lose any revenue either. There would actually be additional rev withthe cost of the card.

Winning?

[Regular Guy]

Shit, it could be set up just like a CHL. Renew every 5 years, revoked for same reasons a CHL would be. Pay the 200 dollar tax per NFA item. WTH not? They wouldn't lose any revenue either. There would actually be additional rev withthe cost of the card.

Winning?

With TIGERS BLOOD!

[UndeadInfidel]

I just verified which examiner my state has, and how long he's taking.

According to this, FL has Albert Lamberger as the examiner.
http://i53.tinypic.com/3013vp1.jpg

It looks like his current queue is taking about 6 months to the day from the time it's sent to approval. I've got a month left.
http://www.nfatracker.com/default.aspx

[hatchtrikk]

Holy fuck. I was just told to wait 30-45 days from the time the check is cashed to see if the stamp is pending

My last stamp switched to pending status in just under 2 weeks...

[Regular Guy]

Alrighty, dropped paperwork off for my 7.62 suppressor. Sooooo, sometime in September.

[OldSchool45b]

Alrighty, dropped paperwork off for my 7.62 suppressor. Sooooo, sometime in September.

Be the squeaky wheel! If you have any other NFA items tell them and that helps speed up the process sometime. If not, send a copy of your original paperwork with the next form 4's, that also helps sometimes. Once you are in the system it becomes easier to get others through. I did a form 1 tax paid on a few DD"s and they banged it out in like a month since I was already in the system.

[Regular Guy]

Alrighty, dropped paperwork off for my 7.62 suppressor. Sooooo, sometime in September.

Be the squeaky wheel! If you have any other NFA items tell them and that helps speed up the process sometime. If not, send a copy of your original paperwork with the next form 4's, that also helps sometimes. Once you are in the system it becomes easier to get others through. I did a form 1 tax paid on a few DD"s and they banged it out in like a month since I was already in the system.

Yeah, I recently got my first SBR stamp back but I had to return it for clerical errors. But have a 4 more out standing. We'll see if this gets faster.

[Liff]

Shit, it could be set up just like a CHL. Renew every 5 years, revoked for same reasons a CHL would be. Pay the 200 dollar tax per NFA item. WTH not? They wouldn't lose any revenue either. There would actually be additional rev withthe cost of the card.

Winning?

Could not possibly lose any more completely. Some of us own 15 NFA items. Why should we pay for the stamp every 5 years instead of once? Don't spread this "idea".

[hatchtrikk]

Could not possibly lose any more completely. Some of us own 15 NFA items. Why should we pay for the stamp every 5 years instead of once? Don't spread this "idea".

Allow me to clarify. I can see where you misunderstood.


Pay for an NFA card.

Renew NFA card every 5 years. Pay fee.

Pay 200 tax per NFA item. One time tax, as it is now.


The government would gain additional revenue from the NFA cards and renewals, and they would increase sales of NFA items due to the simplicity of purchasing.


Winning

[Greg Focker]

Shit, it could be set up just like a CHL. Renew every 5 years, revoked for same reasons a CHL would be. Pay the 200 dollar tax per NFA item. WTH not? They wouldn't lose any revenue either. There would actually be additional rev withthe cost of the card.

Winning?

Could not possibly lose any more completely. Some of us own 15 NFA items. Why should we pay for the stamp every 5 years instead of once? Don't spread this "idea".

I think he means you'd be renewing your "NFA card" every five years. Depending on costs (my CHL was $55, IIRC), it might be nice just to get a one-and-done approval for the card, and then at the point of sale you hand over your money, show your card, pay the $200 stamp, and walk out the door with your new suppressor.

If I understand his proposal correctly, you'd still be paying $200/stamp and the stamps themselves wouldnt need to be renewed, just your "NFA buyer's card".

[Liff]

Could not possibly lose any more completely. Some of us own 15 NFA items. Why should we pay for the stamp every 5 years instead of once? Don't spread this "idea".

Allow me to clarify. I can see where you misunderstood.


Pay for an NFA card.

Renew NFA card every 5 years. Pay fee.

Pay 200 tax per NFA item. One time tax, as it is now.


The government would gain additional revenue from the NFA cards and renewals, and they would increase sales of NFA items due to the simplicity of purchasing.


Winning

Ah. Card means negligible wait times I take it too? Then: Great Idea. Clearly Winning.

[Regular Guy]

I submitted my paperwork on 8/03/2011 for the 12.5" AR-15 and 10/17/2011 for the 10.5" AR-15. Both came back approved on the 25th of March, 2012. I also submitted the paperwork for my Mini-Grunt can on 10/17/2011 and have not received the stamp for it. Maybe it will be here soon.

Pics.


12.5" AR-15. FNH CHF brl, PSA lower and upper, bunch of Magpul stuff, PSA MPI BCG, and a DD rear sight. The YHM FH is getting replaced, soon.


10.5" AR-15 PSA CHF Brl, PSA lower and upper, DD carbine rail, Troy fixed front and DD rear sights, PSA MPI BCG, Troy grip and CBQ buttstock and a Vortex FH.

[UndeadInfidel]

Very nice! I am envy....

I submitted my tax stamp paperwork on 10/25 so hopefully I'm almost there.

[omega_man]

I might have the disposable $$$ to finally start this nonsense soon! At the very least I'll be able to SBR 1 lower.

[UndeadInfidel]

Just checked the NFA tracker site and this Albert Lamberger guy must be slacking. His latest approvals are almost 7 months out now.