The Great ACU Debate. (56K death!)

[AKFTW]

For the winter, I've found that wearing my heavier woodland-pattern stuff keeps me really warm. Since I don't really have a "rig" (yet), I just put a white lab frock over it. It actually works decently well (at least for critters: not so sure about humans). I got within pistol range of a deer by simply walking upright towards it slowly. One of my classmates said she uses the same technique for coyote hunting and it also works well for that. Since we have a slaughterhouse, we have several dozens of these things. Free, lowest-grade winter camouflage win!

So yeah, I'm totally in the market for some autumn and winter camouflage. AKFTW, I like what I see.

Yeah, I'm a total camo nut. I have a bunch of woodland too, but that's mostly for casual wear, I LOVE my M65 woodland pants though, great stuff! I don't wear my good uniforms for everyday stuff- some of them I got great deals on, but they would be VERY difficult to replace as they're pretty rare, got the first one in an extremely lucky closeout sale from a Russian gear shop, and the second one from a friend who went to China over the summer- it is the BEST autumn camouflage pattern ever for my AO.

Really want to get some of this stuff too!

[moab]

ODA did a really nice job on his nephews pack with some spray paint and some stencils. I'll have to ask him how he came up with the stencils. It looked like a darker modified digital.

Was this posted on here?
Can I get a linky please?

Tanks-

IDK. It's his BOB post. I can't find it.

[Kommander]

ODA did a really nice job on his nephews pack with some spray paint and some stencils. I'll have to ask him how he came up with the stencils. It looked like a darker modified digital.

Was this posted on here?
Can I get a linky please?

Tanks-

IDK. It's his BOB post. I can't find it.

Since I am such a nice guy and was curious as well I decided to go looking for this post and found it.

[Kissing-Tom]

Yes, the German-Snow-Pattern works really good. Here is one of the sadly less photos in my uniform. In my opinion flecktarn is not the best pattern, you can get.
http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2830 ... sz_jpg.htm

But back to topic. I played paintball for a long time and on our place(an old NVA AA Base in East Germany) came many guys with different Dresses. In the end, nothing works, because, when I saw something, where I can not recognized, I shot 30-40 balls in this direction. When I saw a little movement, I shot. The dress doesn´t matter in this short range. At longer distance it will be better to use the landscape and don´t trust in any pattern, in my opinion.


Beste Grüße, Tom.

[moab]

Yes, the German-Snow-Pattern works really good. Here is one of the sadly less photos in my uniform. In my opinion flecktarn is not the best pattern, you can get.
http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2830 ... sz_jpg.htm

But back to topic. I played paintball for a long time and on our place(an old NVA AA Base in East Germany) came many guys with different Dresses. In the end, nothing works, because, when I saw something, where I can not recognized, I shot 30-40 balls in this direction. When I saw a little movement, I shot. The dress doesn´t matter in this short range. At longer distance it will be better to use the landscape and don´t trust in any pattern, in my opinion.


Beste Grüße, Tom.

Good point Tom. I like that arm pit panel. Interesting.

[angelofwar]

Had a post up here but it's gone???

Anyways, Moab, I like the idea of packing some Spraypaint when you can...great for temp camo jobs. Another thing I wanted to emntion, since you'll be inch'ing out in ACU's, is subdued duct tape. Other than repair uses, you can use it to attach foilage to your pack/uniform...and it doesn't take much. Just want to throw that out there to add to yer arsenal.

I plan on doing up a "Camo-101" thread, with camo tips, including pic's and lessons on "make shift"/adhoc camo-ing up. I'll have four super easy to do/learn/remember camo lessons, including tiger-stripe, snake-skin, woodland, and foilage. I'll also cover some over-all aspects, including positive and negative space.

So, if yer going with just acu, have some spray-paint/RIT, duct-tape, dark fish net/imps net, and of course, face paint (the most recognizeable feature to man)

[angelofwar]

For the winter, I've found that wearing my heavier woodland-pattern stuff keeps me really warm. Since I don't really have a "rig" (yet), I just put a white lab frock over it. It actually works decently well (at least for critters: not so sure about humans). I got within pistol range of a deer by simply walking upright towards it slowly. One of my classmates said she uses the same technique for coyote hunting and it also works well for that. Since we have a slaughterhouse, we have several dozens of these things. Free, lowest-grade winter camouflage win!

So yeah, I'm totally in the market for some autumn and winter camouflage. AKFTW, I like what I see.

Neat idea for some budget/impromptu winter cammies! If the snows heavy enough, a few radnom lines of light-light grey paint, and you have a decent set-up! The grey lines will help mimics shadows formed in small snow drifts.

[Blackdog]

At least decade after I was issued them my wife made me burn my last pair of 107 pants (by then totally ragged shorts), she said they were too disgusting to look at anymore .

And since I'm at it lets clear the air, I have at least my fair share of surplus cammo junk. I love it, you love it but damn there are more important things.

Including that nice Canadian Airborne Regiment smock that you were wearing in the WMBO photos you posted, where did you get that as they aren't the most common of surplus items out there?

Given to me by my very cool father in law. The pockets are a little funky for general use but other than that a great piece of gear.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

Really want to get some of this stuff too!

Aaand now my brain hurts.

[omega_man]

Aww, come on. That experimental old school USMC urban camo is pretty cool.

[moab]

Aww, come on. That experimental old school USMC urban camo is pretty cool.

Seriously? It's been fielded? I'm that far out of the loop?

[omega_man]

Aww, come on. That experimental old school USMC urban camo is pretty cool.

Seriously? It's been fielded? I'm that far out of the loop?

Very, very briefly. I believe it was issued in the '90's, maybe early 2000's. I don't think it ever made it past CONUS training exercises. There was also a matching helmet cover and PASGT vest cover.

[Jeriah]

Aww, come on. That experimental old school USMC urban camo is pretty cool.

Seriously? It's been fielded? I'm that far out of the loop?

Very, very briefly. I believe it was issued in the '90's, maybe early 2000's. I don't think it ever made it past CONUS training exercises. There was also a matching helmet cover and PASGT vest cover.

About 7 years ago, old pictures of it were going around on the forums, as everybody's (or maybe just one or two dudes') ideal urban camo. It looks new, and the "friend who went to China" comment makes me think the Chinese got wind of this and made a knockoff? If so, though, it's the first I've seen of it. Does look like decent urban camo.

Now, when are we going to see that "prickly pear" patten from Lights Out?

[Niblick]

Flectar-D

Dude, you're supposed to take your sleep mask off after you wake up. What a flecktard!

[Jeriah]

Flectar-D

Dude, you're supposed to take your sleep mask off after you wake up. What a flecktard!

It actually prevents him from searing everything in front of him with devastating, ruby-colored energy blasts...until he wants to.

[moab]

Flectar-D

Dude, you're supposed to take your sleep mask off after you wake up. What a flecktard!

It actually prevents him from searing everything in front of him with devastating, ruby-colored energy blasts...until he wants to.

And here I thought it was to hide his secret membership in the pirate tshirt club.

[AKFTW]

Aww, come on. That experimental old school USMC urban camo is pretty cool.

Seriously? It's been fielded? I'm that far out of the loop?

Very, very briefly. I believe it was issued in the '90's, maybe early 2000's. I don't think it ever made it past CONUS training exercises. There was also a matching helmet cover and PASGT vest cover.

It was issued for about 3 days, as a part of Operation Urban Warrior, a CONUS training exercise. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Urban_Warrior

The real stuff is really rare now but there are repros, and I think it's a very interesting pattern.

[moab]

Some interesting camo at my local surplus store. (Interestingly enough my local surplus store is also where they manufacture VooDoo tactical gear. I think they are both owned by the same company. As it's almost in the same building. And the surplus store is full of VooDoo stuff.)

Danish. Sweet!



Tibetan. Seems like an unlikely place to import camo from. But maybe it's just Chinese knockoffs. They have the pants and mittens too. Interesting pattern. I guess for the dry arid Tibetan landscape? I wonder if I can get my helmet cover in this?



This is called the "Fat Boy" camo suit. And it only goes up to 2xl. Not even close. LOL!



It's the creature from the black lagoon!

[ninja-elbow]

Flectar-D

Dude, you're supposed to take your sleep mask off after you wake up. What a flecktard!

It actually prevents him from searing everything in front of him with devastating, ruby-colored energy blasts...until he wants to.

And here I thought it was to hide his secret membership in the pirate tshirt club.

My Dad loves those striped Soviet undershirts. He did a ton of OPFOR up in Fort Lewis though... and still buys them when he finds them. He thinks they are quite Jaunty while riding his BMW bikes.

[AKFTW]

Danish. Sweet!



Tibetan. Seems like an unlikely place to import camo from. But maybe it's just Chinese knockoffs. They have the pants and mittens too. Interesting pattern. I guess for the dry arid Tibetan landscape? I wonder if I can get my helmet cover in this?

!!!!! That "tibetan" camo is the same as the Type 03 Plateau camo that I have, the PLA developed it for their occupation of Tibet, so it often is called Tibetan camo incorrectly. Get some, it's hard to find and it's awesome!

Also the Danish camo is another flecktarn variant that is very similar to the Flectar-D russian pattern, though with slight differences (less black in the russian pattern). Quite effective in the summer time.

ninja-elbow, I like the Telnyashkas as well, I'm looking to get some short sleeve t-shirt versions as well for when the tank top is not enough but the long sleeve is too hot.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

I could rock the shit out of those Pirate/Ruskie striped shirts.

Anyone else wonder why all the ghillie suits were posed in "Swamp Thing" poses?

[ninja-elbow]

Makers of cheap ghillie suits found a secondary niche market as halloween costumes - really, I'm serious.

[ninja-elbow]

ninja-elbow, I like the Telnyashkas as well, I'm looking to get some short sleeve t-shirt versions as well for when the tank top is not enough but the long sleeve is too hot.

I wouldn't mind some tanktops. Those would be sweet. I would walk around acting like this Russian French Foreign Legionnaire I met in Muscat and got drunk and arm wresteled in a USO club some Legionnaires walked into.

"My Name... it is the Ivan my frrrriend! Who strrrongerrr?"

[TheLastOne]

I could rock the shit out of those Pirate/Ruskie striped shirts.

Anyone else wonder why all the ghillie suits were posed in "Swamp Thing" poses?

Also I think it's because if they stood up straight and had their arms down they'd just look like a friggin shrub? Arms out shows the material off a little better maybe.