Is this a dumb idea? (cheap "Go" bag gun for the car)

[MicSteve]

So I've had this idea mulling around my head for a while and I figured I'd bounce it off the ZS guru's of firearms.

I've been debating about putting together a couple of "trimmed" down Go bags for the car. Something smaller than a BOB that you would just quickly grab to have with you if for whatever reason you had to sit around inside or outside but really close by your vehicle. Say if for whatever reason your vehicle breaks down in a non-PAW situation and you just wanted to have some stuff laying around in one organized spot in your vehicle to get you by til the Tow truck or whomever arrives.

Not getting too much into the details of the bag since this isn't the sub-forum for it but I was thinking of a cheap pistol range bag the likes of which can be had for a mere $20 locally and stuffing it with some cliff bars, bottle waters, flashlight/road flares, real basic stuff and adding in a cheap o' gun for a little security. Which brings me to what I'm asking the opinion of here.

I was debating of going with either a couple CZ 82's or a couple S&W model 64's. Nothing fancy and nothing meant to go clearing houses with or doing some CQB stuff but certainly better than harsh words and a stick.

The benefits being that I could grab both guns for just about the price of getting a more modern firearm and knock out both bags at once. Both I believe have relatively similarly priced ammo and a decent amount of respect as a cheap effective firearm.

So is this a dumb idea? Should I just hold it off and plan for a more robust BOB type setup with a couple more modern and expensive firearms? I was looking for a more minimalist approach but I'm open to opinions/suggestions if my idea's are pretty off base and I'm just reaching for something implausible.

Also I realize I have to make sure to follow all the requisite laws within my state for transporting of firearms and this is really more of a set up that I would only desire once both myself and the Mrs. had our CCW's.

Presently I have a CZ p07/Remington R1 Enhanced/S&W 65 if that info is necessary.

Disclaimer: Just to get it out of the way I realize I should just get a Glock 19.

[BigDaddyTX]

You mean a GHB (Get Home Bag)? Pretty common idea. I keep one in the car at all times. It's also my general woods bag, it's got everything I need to leave the car and "survive" my way home: shelter (poncho), food (energy bar and MRE components), fire (Bic, esbits, ferro rod), Mora, SS water bottle and cup. I don't keep a gun in it, but it's only because it doesn't really fit and I don't have my CHL if I had to actually conceal it.

ETA: I guess this is about the gun really. Yes, either gun will do fine. I'd pick whichever is lighter or cheaper depending on how you feel about trunk guns.

[ultra magnus]

I don't think it's a bad idea. Those are both kick ass firearms, that can be had for great prices right now. I keep a P64 in a lock box in my vehicle. If you are ok with 40 there is also this
http://www.summitgunbroker.com/22_2nd_gen__.html
a bit more than a Model 64 but not a lot.

[MacAttack]

CZ 82/83 whichever one you can get cheaper.

[ultra magnus]

CZ 82/83 whichever one you can get cheaper.

Wider variety of 380 out there and more places carry it. That said when handgun ammo was hard to come by and 380 was impossible to find, 9mm mak was available from anyone who sold it.

[AK47Heaven]

I have a Smith 64-3 and its a great gun.Despite what people say .38 Special is a tried and proven round and is without a doubt one of the most common and available in the U.S.,though it is expensive IMO.Since this is not a gun for the PAW you likely wont stack ammo deep for it and being able to pick up a box or two of .38 at your local Wal Mart is convenient.

I live in a small town and have never,not once, seen a box of 9x18 at my LGS or at Wal Mart, and the only defensive loadings I know of are Hornady, which probably kick ass, and Silver Bear, which probably don't.Also if you are going with the minimalist approach you can't go wrong with a classic American revolver, the 64 being one of the best and most popular.I also like the idea of a self contained, magazine-less firearm that will be almost guaranteed to function 100 percent.

FYI for the same price you could get a NIB PF9 and enjoy all the benefits that come with 9mm Parabellum (cheap,huge ammo selection,extremely common)

Lots of options out there for you really.Just my .02

[jrswanson1]

NC is hazy, hot, and humid during the summer months. If I could keep a firearm in a get home bag I'd find a couple of used S&W K-Frame revolvers, preferably with 4" barrels in stainless steel. Sight radius is decent and you'll get good accuracy out of them. And speed loaders are $10 each, so get a couple for each gun. I started regretting selling my Model 10, but I ended up later getting a killer deal on an SS Ruger GP-100 and a ton of ammo.

Jim

[jamoni]

I would probably weld or bolt in a small gunsafe to the trunk. I'd hate to have one of my guns on the street. As for the platform, if it goes bang every time and has enough punch to get the job done, everything else is details. I like revolvers myself.

[TheLastOne]

shazaam
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F3CZ82

$218 cz-82 before shipping and hassle

[MicSteve]

You mean a GHB (Get Home Bag)? Pretty common idea. I keep one in the car at all times. It's also my general woods bag, it's got everything I need to leave the car and "survive" my way home: shelter (poncho), food (energy bar and MRE components), fire (Bic, esbits, ferro rod), Mora, SS water bottle and cup. I don't keep a gun in it, but it's only because it doesn't really fit and I don't have my CHL if I had to actually conceal it.

ETA: I guess this is about the gun really. Yes, either gun will do fine. I'd pick whichever is lighter or cheaper depending on how you feel about trunk guns.

Originally I was thinking something more trimmed downed than a GHB but after that list its pretty much going to be the same thing so....yeah.

shazaam
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F3CZ82

$218 cz-82 before shipping and hassle

Why am I never prepared when great deals present themselves....Doh!

[Bama67]

9x18 is basically non existant locally here. You either have to order it online, or travel about a hundred miles to find some.

That is the only thing keeping me from getting one of those, because there are some great deals on the Maks out there.

[Domindart]

Ive put together the exact, basically, same contents in my Ghb. I also use it as a backup bag , when I drink too much I may sleep in the car and use the blanket and water

also, I just use a walmart $10 backpack, works ok

[roscoe]

I think it is a good idea, but for toting a long distance I would want something lightweight and cheap like the PF-9 ($250). And 9mm is plenty adequate.

[Domindart]

I think it is a good idea, but for toting a long distance I would want something lightweight and cheap like the PF-9 ($250). And 9mm is plenty adequate.

PF9 would make a great gun for concealment

[Doc B]

I went through the police academy with a model 64 and did a lot of tactical work with it. I have and still do carry .38 Smiths in harms way and don"t feel at all under gunned. If I knew I was going into combat for sure I might take my Glock or 1911, but wouldn't be sorry with just a 64 Smith.

[Fred Burke]

I was broke as a joke when I got my PF-9, and money was actually more of an issue than I thought in getting it. In that regard, it was a pretty good deal and though a joy to carry, it's hard to press into service as a fighting pistol than a belly gun easily hidden (especially with the belt clip). the CZ-82/3 and 64's (didn't know there were any still floating around, the 4" DAO NY ones) are great choices. But check out gunbroker too. You can get Hungarian Hi Powers, Third Gen Smiths (like the 915, and others), Arcus 94's etc. in very good or better condition, for 200. (+/- 20. or so) any time, plus shipping and dealer fees.
For a long time here we could have gotten excellent long guns for the task of trunk gun, I fear those days are over as far as giveaway priced Ishapores, SKSs,etc. (M-N M44 might be the one for that today). there still are good surplus and police trade handguns out there perfect for this idea, such as the two you mentioned, but need not be your only options.

anyway, I thought this is a really good idea, but...
"Also I realize I have to make sure to follow all the requisite laws within my state for transporting of firearms and this is really more of a set up that I would only desire once both myself and the Mrs. had our CCW's."
Wouldn't it be desireable UNTIL you get your CCW's? IOW, what I thought you meant when you said range bags, was a way to keep pistols near you, getting around liscensing, taking an obvious range bag and adding few things to make it into a functional GHB, and say a set of muffs and safety glasses to authenticate, you're always "going to the range later on" if your vehicle gets tossed. But when you need the kit, who's to say you need to keep lugging around those items. one drawback is that legal transportation often involves storing ammo completely separate from the cased weapon. which is not really a big deal, but could involve keeping loaded mags seperately, which in a way defeats the purpose by now needing a second conveyance, that could be forgotten or lost when needed most.

[fistynickle]

i have one i keep in my car. In the bag has 3 MRE's a Camelbak with built in Filter, I just found a brand new Jimenez Arms 22 simi auto pistol for $95 bucks and it came with 2 mags. It is now the newest part of m GHB,"get home bag" I also have multitool small knife zippo and a bunch of other small stuff and a small med kit.

[AK47Heaven]

i have one i keep in my car. In the bag has 3 MRE's a Camelbak with built in Filter, I just found a brand new Jimenez Arms 22 simi auto pistol for $95 bucks and it came with 2 mags. It is now the newest part of m GHB,"get home bag" I also have multitool small knife zippo and a bunch of other small stuff and a small med kit.

Not to burst your bubble man but I would not trust my life to anything made by Jimenez Arms, hell I wouldn't even trust it to send the bullets where I aim them.If you are looking for a cheap semi auto .22 check out Phoenix Arms HP-22A it is only about 50 dollars more.Other than that I think your GHB sounds good.I don't even have one so you are doing better than I am.I just carry a Glock 26...that is my entire GHB