Fighting monsters in the mist.

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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby by-the-throat » Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:55 am

Heh.

You're all going to laugh at me for this, but the Dimensional Breach with Emerging Nasties scenario is in the official SHTF folder for our group. We nailed down procedures and contingencies after a more intoxicated than usual round table session.

I figure it was all the DOOM and Half LIfe we played as kids coming up, but we do have some official plans for this event. Let me see if I can remember some of the talking points from that particular section of the ol' Don't Panic binder; it has been a long time since I did more than look at the header of that scenario and chuckle.

Step 1: All households gather dependents and rally at an out of town point ASAP without waiting for confirmation from other groups-GTFO now. Pick the rally point farthest from the epicenter of the shit storm.
Step 2: Dispatch our (admittedly half ass) QRF to secure the rally point at top speed while others make their way to the rally point with more caution.
Step 3: Bug out hard from there and kill anything that doesn't look human.

I think there is a corrollary about reporting species characteristics and securing corpses if needed...maybe something about recouping bugout costs by selling them to Weekly World News.

Of course, none of this covers what to do if you get sucked into the rift and have to play an away game. But I'm no Gordon Freeman, either. :mrgreen:

Ninja Edit: I haven't actually seen this movie so I apologize if the above isn't relevant. Honestly I'm just picturing Pinkies from DOOM.
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby azrael99 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:07 am

This is clearly a scenario based on the Story of Stephen King "The mist"
Although a monster movie, the central theme is what ordinary people will be driven to do under extraordinary circumstances. The plot revolves around members of the small town of Bridgton, Maine, who after a severe thunderstorm that causes the power to go out the night before meet in a supermarket to pick up supplies. While they struggle to survive an unnatural mist which envelops the town and conceals vicious, otherworldly monsters, extreme tensions rise among the survivors.

What i would do, gather everyone, dispatch them to gather food, water, weapon, ammo, with a time limit of 5-10min , then regroup everyone in the basement, seal every door and window, stay away from window, keep low profile, minimum sound, minimum light, and wait until the mist disappear. when the visibility come back. prepare to evacuate ASAP, get out, aim and shoot at everything that doesn't look human, or want to take a piece of us, jump in the vehicle, then drive away.
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby werepig » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:30 am

azrael99 wrote:This is clearly a scenario based on the Story of Stephen King "The mist"
Although a monster movie, the central theme is what ordinary people will be driven to do under extraordinary circumstances. The plot revolves around members of the small town of Bridgton, Maine, who after a severe thunderstorm that causes the power to go out the night before meet in a supermarket to pick up supplies. While they struggle to survive an unnatural mist which envelops the town and conceals vicious, otherworldly monsters, extreme tensions rise among the survivors.

What i would do, gather everyone, dispatch them to gather food, water, weapon, ammo, with a time limit of 5-10min , then regroup everyone in the basement, seal every door and window, stay away from window, keep low profile, minimum sound, minimum light, and wait until the mist disappear. when the visibility come back. prepare to evacuate ASAP, get out, aim and shoot at everything that doesn't look human, or want to take a piece of us, jump in the vehicle, then drive away.



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Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby EmbraceTheHate » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:30 am

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Can we go back on topic or drop it? A PM earlier would have saved us 4 posts. Five if you count this. I know PMs don't increase your post count, but they often work.

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Anyways if I had to fight monsters in a mist I would def. try to find a secure location and just wait it out.


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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby Spiffums » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:05 am

Shoot the crazy woman in the head sooner.

Then link up with Roland for the drawing and quest for the Dark Tower.

The idea is that the fabric of King's worlds are ripping and merging together. This is a common theme in his new stories when he was working on the Dark Tower series.
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby Tater Raider » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:54 pm

Grimrider222 wrote:In the movie at the end; doesnt the guy shoots his family then goes to kill himself then here come the army? Didnt see that in forever. I'd stay in the house and give every one in the house a gun.

In the movie the Army swwops in too late to save the day. In the short story it ends with him still driving through The Mist trying to find some end to it.

IRL: I'm dead meat and know it in either situation if I don't shelter in place, and if I do bug in I'm still pretty much screwed, but I like the odds better.
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby Mephiston2k » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:46 pm

That film is truly mad, but yeah I agree that religious nutty woman should have been dealt with.

Wouldn't you be seriously screwed in the head after killing your kid and friends to save them from the horrors to have safety appear moments later!

In the UK.. we rarely have basements and the likes so would have to grab a shed load of food and water and take it up into the loft etc. I can also see blades and bats being of more use than firearms as they attract attention!
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby MVegas » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:03 am

I'da been sticking to plan until I saw all the little spider/crab thingies hatching out of MP guy while he was still alive. Then, I think it'd be bullet eatin' time.
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby greenear123 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:48 am

I choose.... Pikachu!

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These things have always freaked me out. :shock:
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby Grimstad » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:30 am

I saw the original and IIRC, if you were related to the original offenders you were screwed, at least until the priest gave up the gold. As for fighting something that moves as the mist? How about an airtight vault? Or how about locked in a mayonnaise jar under Funk and Wagnall's porch? (a joke for the geezers around here)
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby squinty » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:59 am

What? Noone posted the "kill'em all" animation?
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Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby TN-Shooter » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:49 am

A flamethrower and some molotovs would be be quite helpful in defeating mist monsters.
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby MVegas » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:34 pm

Grimstad wrote:I saw the original and IIRC, if you were related to the original offenders you were screwed, at least until the priest gave up the gold. As for fighting something that moves as the mist? How about an airtight vault? Or how about locked in a mayonnaise jar under Funk and Wagnall's porch? (a joke for the geezers around here)


I think you're thinking of a different movie, (though a great one, IMHO- big John Carpenter fan here) called "The Fog"
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby RESCUE-K9 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:05 pm

Nashoba wrote:In a situation like that, my flight instincts would override my fight. I'd probably hit the basement and lock up behind me, I'd try to ride things out and only attempt to leave under dire circumstances. Don't screw with the unknown.

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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby squinty » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:16 am

Change my favorite "fight song" to Misty Mountain Hop.

Worst thing about The Mist wasn't the monsters, it was the crazy self destructive instincts of the survivors. Same point as the Romero zombie movies - the monsters are a secondary concern, the real scary stuff is what the survivors do to each other.
The first person to suggest throwing another survivor out the door as a human sacrifice, (as they did in the movie), gets asked if they want to volunteer themselves. If not, they get sternly invited to stfu.

As for "bullet eating time" not for me, not ever. If I go down, I go down resisting my enemies and protecting my loved ones to the last. I may not succeed, but I won't despair so much I decide to do the monsters' job for them.
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby Grimstad » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:57 am

MVegas wrote:
Grimstad wrote:I saw the original and IIRC, if you were related to the original offenders you were screwed, at least until the priest gave up the gold. As for fighting something that moves as the mist? How about an airtight vault? Or how about locked in a mayonnaise jar under Funk and Wagnall's porch? (a joke for the geezers around here)


I think you're thinking of a different movie, (though a great one, IMHO- big John Carpenter fan here) called "The Fog"

Ah, so right. I stand corrected.
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby MVegas » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:06 am

squinty wrote:As for "bullet eating time" not for me, not ever. If I go down, I go down resisting my enemies and protecting my loved ones to the last. I may not succeed, but I won't despair so much I decide to do the monsters' job for them.


Under almost any circumstances, I'm right there with you.
I reserve it for becoming a living incubator/buffet for baby spider/crabs. Thats where I draw the line. The shit is a bit much.
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby praharin » Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:56 pm

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I choose.... Pikachu!

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Fly above that mist, use Whirlwind to clear it away, and roast the monsters with Flamethrower. It's super effective :mrgreen:


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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby majorhavoc » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:15 pm

This topic has surprising legs.
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby squinty » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:51 am

MVegas wrote:
squinty wrote:As for "bullet eating time" not for me, not ever. If I go down, I go down resisting my enemies and protecting my loved ones to the last. I may not succeed, but I won't despair so much I decide to do the monsters' job for them.


Under almost any circumstances, I'm right there with you.
I reserve it for becoming a living incubator/buffet for baby spider/crabs. Thats where I draw the line. The shit is a bit much.

I could see, theoretically, self sacrifice for some greater cause - if a character in a zombie movie gets bitten and has to sacrifice himself so as not to "turn" and endanger others, I get that.
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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby animalu » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:05 am

I split the critters into two groups:

- Minimonsters. They, in large numbers, can dominate any structure. If you barricade and there's a breach, by definition of a stronghold, you'll have difficulties getting out. So in case of a breach, chances are you're trapped. LARGE chances, in my opinion.
- Megamonsters. Human size and above. These probably can be dominated in a building, by use of firearms and tactics, and their size SHOULD prevent them from becoming a swarm. Outside ? If they're predators, chances are they'll be able to catch you.

I think it depends a lot on wether the whole ecosystem is coming or not. If the whole ecosystem is there, then I'd suspect predators would commonly go after their usual prey, and occasionally snack on this new bipedal pink thingie. But if only the predators are coming, we'd be screwed.

In both cases, mini and mega monsters, I would attempt to control perception. I'd try to insulate from infrared perception, try to mask the smell, and generally attempt to look less alive, at least to the senses I know about and can influence.

If forced to bug in, I would NOT choose something extremely fortified, because I want to be able to get out if needed. Definitely not a basement. I don't believe in having one line of defense (walls, in this case) that tries to cover 100% of all possibilities. Evacuating is a real option, and one that I feel I should have.

If forced to bug out, it's a nightmare. We're worried about predators. That means they'll have different hunting/moving/luring methods, so no approach can work on all. Some might fly, some might burrow, some might sprint like crazy. So, threats everywere. Then there's the paths of least resistance. If we move outside, I'm afraid of two situations:

1. Open spaces (parking lots, boulevards, courtyards), because a predator will have better perception than me, so it'll stalk me way before I see it. Chances are, it'll get me.
2. Choke points (corners, doorways, tourniquets in lobbies), because they're perfect for ambush predators.

I'd attempt to find an unusual way to travel, such as: storm drains, sewers, subway tunnels. Cars, I don't trust, they don't lend themselves well to escaping in a hurry. Maybe bikes. Definitely not motorbikes. Thing is, since I can't eliminate choke points or open spaces (the world is made of them), then at least I could statistically minimize the chances that the choke points or open spaces I travel would have less chances of being infected with the critters.

Weapons:
- for indoors, minimonsters: sprays with lighters (minimal bursts, NOT to set aflame, but to damage sensory organs), bleach, smoke bombs if able to make.
- for indoors, megamonsters: if alone, a strong religious belief. If with others: split the group(s) in lures and damagers (the lure is only concerned with keeping the monster at a distance with the equivalent of a boar spear, the damagers hit the target together, fast, heavy). Sounds like a good plan until nobody wants to execute it, even if I volunteer as a lure. Then I revert to the religious belief.
- for outdoors, minimonsters: running, umbrella, spinning a chain above the head / adjusting the direction as needed. Fire would be too high profile, remember there's megamonsters outside too.
- for outdoors, megamonsters: crossbows = absolute win. I know several shops that can arm a small group, and they are pretty intuitive to use. Recoverable ammo. Good for signalling if we found flares. Machetes are the second option, but they would only come after the crossbow "bayonet" was used. Each crossbow would get a (duct taped, if necessary) form of stabbing implement, so that the crossbow / machete drawing time gap could be filled.
- general purpose weapons to have regardless of the situation: knife, long-hard-object (baseball bat, pipe, etc)

You may have noticed I didn't use guns, it's because they're not available where I live and thus not a part of my offensive planning, altough they are part of my deffensive planning.

Armor:
- sturdy boots (on me, or available in a nearby shop)
- pants with hardened knees and multiple pockets (on me, or available in a nearby shop)
- tool belt (if available in a nearby shop)
- ideally leather jacket, but only if available in a nearby shop
- elbow/forearm/wrist/hand protections from any relevant nearby shop: sports, riot gear, animal handler
- thick fabric/leather wrapped around the neck, with spiked dog collar underneath, if available in a nearby shop
- head protection is really tricky. For predators, you need all your senses. Maybe a construction helmet or bike/skating helmet, if available in a nearby shop

Aptitudes:
- filipino martial arts (for the bladed and blunt offensive)
- good cardio fitness
- willingness to live

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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby Kelvar » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:04 am

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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby Kelvar » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:47 pm

EmbraceTheHate wrote:I'd smoke some crack and masterbate...

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Re: Fighting monsters in the mist.

Postby Tater Raider » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:02 pm

Kelvar wrote:
EmbraceTheHate wrote:I'd smoke some crack and masterbate...

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Just a reminder, everyone--Yes, the rules are *somewhat* relaxed here, but they still apply. Let's not talk about illegal activity--especially when it does nothing to contribute.

With that being said, I'm reopening the thread. Now behave. 8-)

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