Oddball Toys

[MrM4Guy]

How easy is it to get parts for the daewoo? Local pawnshop had one last I looked for 5 something.

I would look for something that has easily available ammunition and parts.

[Polley]

How easy is it to get parts for the daewoo? Local pawnshop had one last I looked for 5 something.

I would look for something that has easily available ammunition and parts.

Daewoo Rifle Parts has most of the small parts that are prone to breaking (Ha: as if I've ever come across a Daewoo with a broken part) and it shares magazines and ammunition with the AR-15.

[RickOShea]

FN FNC Sporter.



IMI Galil.

[AKFTW]

I say get a Galil or an AR-180B- I really want one someday!

[Polley]

My uncle held on to a guy's rifles for him last summer while he was switching houses. I believe he had an FR-8. Weird little bolt-actions. Kind of neat, though. They have a "fake" gas return tube that actually houses the cleaning kit. It was the first (and perhaps only) bolt-action I've ever seen with a factory A2-style flash hider. Used a wheel with some holes in it for a rear sight and used a Mauser style action/safety. 7.62x51mm, I believe.

Wiki to the rescue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR8

[RickOShea]

My uncle held on to a guy's rifles for him last summer while he was switching houses. I believe he had an FR-8. Weird little bolt-actions. Kind of neat, though. They have a "fake" gas return tube that actually houses the cleaning kit. It was the first (and perhaps only) bolt-action I've ever seen with a factory A2-style flash hider. Used a wheel with some holes in it for a rear sight and used a Mauser style action/safety. 7.62x51mm, I believe.

Wiki to the rescue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR8

Spanish Mausers converted to 7.62 Nato. You don't see many of those these days (atleast in decent shape) and , IIRC, the FR-7s will blow-up on you with modern .308/7.62 Nato ammo.

[Polley]

My uncle held on to a guy's rifles for him last summer while he was switching houses. I believe he had an FR-8. Weird little bolt-actions. Kind of neat, though. They have a "fake" gas return tube that actually houses the cleaning kit. It was the first (and perhaps only) bolt-action I've ever seen with a factory A2-style flash hider. Used a wheel with some holes in it for a rear sight and used a Mauser style action/safety. 7.62x51mm, I believe.

Wiki to the rescue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR8

Spanish Mausers converted to 7.62 Nato. You don't see many of those these days (atleast in decent shape) and , IIRC, the FR-7s will blow-up on you with modern .308/7.62 Nato ammo.

Correct. That's why the FR8s are better. They have my favourite number in them (and aren't like .40 S&W GLOCKs).

[Kronos]

My uncle held on to a guy's rifles for him last summer while he was switching houses. I believe he had an FR-8. Weird little bolt-actions. Kind of neat, though. They have a "fake" gas return tube that actually houses the cleaning kit. It was the first (and perhaps only) bolt-action I've ever seen with a factory A2-style flash hider. Used a wheel with some holes in it for a rear sight and used a Mauser style action/safety. 7.62x51mm, I believe.

Wiki to the rescue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR8

Spanish Mausers converted to 7.62 Nato. You don't see many of those these days (atleast in decent shape) and , IIRC, the FR-7s will blow-up on you with modern .308/7.62 Nato ammo.

Myth.

H.P.White Laboratories tested the FR-7 M1916 action and found that it failed at around 2-3x the SAAMI spec for the receiver. Guns and ammo IIRC paid for the test.

I've been feeding mine commercial .308 loads for the past three years while closely keeping an eye on head space, and lug set back. I haven't experienced either, and I'm pleased to report that my spent casings appear normal.

As with any surplus rifle it comes down to the condition of the example you're shooting.

[Alpha-17]

IMI Galil.

Galil FTW. Although, personally, I'd try to find a .308 model. It might cost as much as a SCAR H, but damn, it'd be cool.

[jrswanson1]

How about an FN-49? Available in 7mm Mauser, 8mm Mauser, 30-06, and 7.62 NATO.

I've been looking for one in 7.5 French for about two years now...

I got my Venezuelan contract 7mm for $750. Serial number 9xx. I have to adjust the gas setting, the previous owner left it wide open and I tore up four cases before I could find one and noticed the rim was torn. I'm on the hunt for a good 30-06 version after I get a Garand.

Jim

[RickOShea]

Spanish Mausers converted to 7.62 Nato. You don't see many of those these days (atleast in decent shape) and , IIRC, the FR-7s will blow-up on you with modern .308/7.62 Nato ammo.

Myth.

H.P.White Laboratories tested the FR-7 M1916 action and found that it failed at around 2-3x the SAAMI spec for the receiver. Guns and ammo IIRC paid for the test.

I've been feeding mine commercial .308 loads for the past three years while closely keeping an eye on head space, and lug set back. I haven't experienced either, and I'm pleased to report that my spent casings appear normal.

As with any surplus rifle it comes down to the condition of the example you're shooting.

I'm not worried about a Mauser receiver blowing up, but I am the "chamber" of the FR-7, which was spec-ed for the weak sauce original Spanish version of the 7.62 Nato round.

But good luck with that. I got yer back........Waaaaaaay back.

[Regular Guy]

AR SBR with a 6" AR57 SBR upper and a Innovative Arms Apex-S suppressor. This is strongly calling my name, HARD. Buh-bye bonus.

[raxar]

How easy is it to get parts for the daewoo? Local pawnshop had one last I looked for 5 something.

I would look for something that has easily available ammunition and parts.

Daewoo Rifle Parts has most of the small parts that are prone to breaking (Ha: as if I've ever come across a Daewoo with a broken part) and it shares magazines and ammunition with the AR-15.

Ace has the folding stock conversion that comes with a new trigger group, so you can get spares of them as well.

I've been wondering if you could ditch the spring loaded ejector and try running a regular AR bolt in it in a pinch, but I'm not brave enough to dare

[Kronos]

Spanish Mausers converted to 7.62 Nato. You don't see many of those these days (atleast in decent shape) and , IIRC, the FR-7s will blow-up on you with modern .308/7.62 Nato ammo.

Myth.

H.P.White Laboratories tested the FR-7 M1916 action and found that it failed at around 2-3x the SAAMI spec for the receiver. Guns and ammo IIRC paid for the test.

I've been feeding mine commercial .308 loads for the past three years while closely keeping an eye on head space, and lug set back. I haven't experienced either, and I'm pleased to report that my spent casings appear normal.

As with any surplus rifle it comes down to the condition of the example you're shooting.

I'm not worried about a Mauser receiver blowing up, but I am the "chamber" of the FR-7, which was spec-ed for the weak sauce original Spanish version of the 7.62 Nato round.

But good luck with that. I got yer back........Waaaaaaay back.

If H.P. White tested the rifles and found that the lugs in the receiver were failing at 2-3x the SAAMI maximum then logically the barrel's chamber was being submitted to identical forces.

Do some actual reading on the topic (7.62 CETME) before parroting what someone else has said please.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

Well, I know it's not 5.56, but I want to get my hands on one of the old-school BSA Springfield 1903 .22 trainers. Single Shot, IIRC. Designed to train the young comerades to shoot ultimate battle weapon at less cost.

I mean, designed to teach young boyscouts the joys of fundamental marksmanship, on a platform that just happen to share the weight, characteristics, and sights of the current MBR, but in a cheap, affordable caliber. Not that other thing I said.

Really, the first use of a .22 analogue as a trainer, and a lot of fun.

[RickOShea]

I'm not worried about a Mauser receiver blowing up, but I am the "chamber" of the FR-7, which was spec-ed for the weak sauce original Spanish version of the 7.62 Nato round.

But good luck with that. I got yer back........Waaaaaaay back.

If H.P. White tested the rifles and found that the lugs in the receiver were failing at 2-3x the SAAMI maximum then logically the barrel's chamber was being submitted to identical forces.

Do some actual reading on the topic (7.62 CETME) before parroting what someone else has said please.

Nope, I'm just gonna stick with my original statement and say "good luck with that".

[raxar]

Well, I know it's not 5.56, but I want to get my hands on one of the old-school BSA Springfield 1903 .22 trainers. Single Shot, IIRC. Designed to train the young comerades to shoot ultimate battle weapon at less cost.

I mean, designed to teach young boyscouts the joys of fundamental marksmanship, on a platform that just happen to share the weight, characteristics, and sights of the current MBR, but in a cheap, affordable caliber. Not that other thing I said.

Really, the first use of a .22 analogue as a trainer, and a lot of fun.

it was a different time, one company even came out with a boy's rifle styled after the remington rolling block musket that came with a blunt bayonet.

[ajk07734]

For the 5.56, the MSAR is an awesome, highly under-appreciated rifle.

Unfortunately they no longer exist..the guns that are out there are the last of them...

[Krypticklown]

For the 5.56, the MSAR is an awesome, highly under-appreciated rifle.

Unfortunately they no longer exist..the guns that are out there are the last of them...

I'm seeing them for sale on Gunbroker for about 1.5k for the big blown out kit for the E3 model, but there was a recall on the E3 (which was to replace the magazine locking points from plastic to steel) and if I could figure out how to do that I'd buy one, simply because of them taking the AR mags.

[ajk07734]

For the 5.56, the MSAR is an awesome, highly under-appreciated rifle.

Unfortunately they no longer exist..the guns that are out there are the last of them...

I'm seeing them for sale on Gunbroker for about 1.5k for the big blown out kit for the E3 model, but there was a recall on the E3 (which was to replace the magazine locking points from plastic to steel) and if I could figure out how to do that I'd buy one, simply because of them taking the AR mags.

yes they are out there..but they are no longer being made by MSAR, so, what's out there is out there, and there wont be any Parts made, or manf Support