Doomsday Preppers (2nd) 02/07/2012 Nat Geo

[CaptBrainFreeze]

This is not a repeat of the first, it is in fact a new edition. I know a few who are doing the show and one in particular went...well...you'll see.
If you are wondering, yes it seems it will be a lot like the first one and will push some interesting ideas on prepping but will sadly show the paranoid of some as well...again...For those on here that know me, knew I was in talks with them about doing the show and feeling them out.
However when I confirmed it was a lot about the doomsday theories etc.....I bailed.
1. I don't like the negative message it can send.
2. I spend plenty of time debunking the same theories that get presented. (If they offered me a spot doing that part, I'd jump all over it lol.)
3. Some things, plans, bug outs etc have no business on the net lol.

Hopefully we'll get to see some of the interesting ideas and maybe someone will listen to us about a good non fear mongering prep special. I tried to push that across to them but to no avail.

[allofthemonkeys]

Personally, IMO, these type of shows are designed to make preppers look crazy in order to make people stay away from being prepared. Why? To create fear when SHTF, even if it is short term like a natural disaster. Why create fear? I have a number of theories but I don't know how welcome they would be here on the forum.

[Unassigned]

I'll watch it, even though I know they will be painting preppers in a bad light.

[tojo]

The first edition was actually really interesting (funny thing they ran it at 2am in the morning over here) for me, even though I was screaming "OPSEC" the whole time at the television.

One thing they sould work on is actually showing or telling people who the "survival experts" that evaluate your efforts actually are, not just saying "our experts say so and so.."-

[CaptBrainFreeze]

I got to see a few sneak peeks. There will be some great info in it, but yes, I can 100% confirm some are shown to be lunatics but those in question didn't help their case by running their big mouths.

[CaptBrainFreeze]

1st episode is at 9pm called Doomsday Preppers: Bullets, Lots of Bullets

2nd episode is at 10 pm same night called Doomsday Preppers: I Hope I Am Crazy

[-Jason-]

I watched something on Demand. Not sure if they were old or not. But I'd agree with the absurdity of sharing all those plans and provisions across TV land. Especially when some of the people are discussing discretion all while broadcasting everything across the world.

[recon-1]

I guess I'll watch and see how they make these people look. Either wack jobs or they know what there doing.

[MADic]

Regardless or how ridiculous these people look I will still watch it and I'm sure I will still be entertained. It obviously sheds preppers in a bad light and gives a bad impression to those who don't prep, but I think as a community of preppers we are obviously all aware that people like this exist and we should be allowed to laugh and make fun of ourselves.

[CaptBrainFreeze]

Yahoo article.

http://news.yahoo.com/doomsday-preppers ... 04285.html

[carolinafan]

One commercial I just saw was a girl saying her boyfriend or husband was gonna shoot their cats in the head come SHTF time. What the hell?

[majorhavoc]

Yahoo article.

http://news.yahoo.com/doomsday-preppers ... 04285.html

That short yahoo article is a worthwhile read. Interesting insight on the role of the internet plays in disseminating some of the more half baked justifications for prepping:

"Fear of nuclear obliteration started the rise in apocalypticism, but today, the main factor driving its continuing spread is the rapid exchange of ideas — especially scary ideas — on the Web.

"There's no single more important explanation as to the presence of apocalyptic thought in the world today than the development of the Internet," DiTommasso told Life's Little Mysteries, a sister site to LiveScience. "You can learn everything you want about the flipping of the magnetic poles on the Internet. And you can find out related information that would lead you to also believe the poles are going to flip because of, for instance, the presence of a previously unknown planet in the solar system." [Believers In Mysterious Planet Nibiru Await Earth's End]"


Refreshingly, the "expert" used for the article shows a bit of balance at the end:

"Personally, DiTommasso believes apocalypticists are correct in recognizing that there are grave threats in the world, but they're misguided as to what forms these will take. "You don't have to expect an apocalypse," he said. "Look outside — the environment is being degraded right now. Instead of standing outside, looking up for the comet that's going to obliterate the Earth, look around you."

[Alpha-17]

One commercial I just saw was a girl saying her boyfriend or husband was gonna shoot their cats in the head come SHTF time. What the hell?

That was my reaction.

[ineffableone]

Cool Engineer 775 and Southern Prepper1 are part of the review team at the end of the show



He also explains some of the people on the show are a bit odd, and make preppers look crazy, some is the editing the Nat Geo does. They want to make preppers look batshit looney to all those normal people so they will keep watching tv instead of going out and prepping for themselves.

[duodecima]

Yahoo article.

http://news.yahoo.com/doomsday-preppers ... 04285.html

Yeah, that's a more balanced article than the last one.

Meanwhile, Paul Range and Gloria Haswell have enough in store to feed 22 people for 15 years —

If they have a pic of that on the Nat Geo episode, we need to get a screen capture for Food Storage Porn. That's a massive amount even by my standards.

[ineffableone]

Yahoo article.

http://news.yahoo.com/doomsday-preppers ... 04285.html

That short yahoo article is a worthwhile read. Interesting insight on the role of the internet plays in disseminating some of the more half baked justifications for prepping:

"Fear of nuclear obliteration started the rise in apocalypticism, but today, the main factor driving its continuing spread is the rapid exchange of ideas — especially scary ideas — on the Web.

"There's no single more important explanation as to the presence of apocalyptic thought in the world today than the development of the Internet," DiTommasso told Life's Little Mysteries, a sister site to LiveScience. "You can learn everything you want about the flipping of the magnetic poles on the Internet. And you can find out related information that would lead you to also believe the poles are going to flip because of, for instance, the presence of a previously unknown planet in the solar system." [Believers In Mysterious Planet Nibiru Await Earth's End]"


Refreshingly, the "expert" used for the article shows a bit of balance at the end:

"Personally, DiTommasso believes apocalypticists are correct in recognizing that there are grave threats in the world, but they're misguided as to what forms these will take. "You don't have to expect an apocalypse," he said. "Look outside — the environment is being degraded right now. Instead of standing outside, looking up for the comet that's going to obliterate the Earth, look around you."

Only problem is they are not correct in the article saying there is little chance of magnetic pole reversal in our life times, and automaticly associating it with physical pole change. We are in a magnetic pole reversal right now. Yep it is already happening. No it has nothing to do with some other planet, it just happens once in awhile to the Earth. The magnetic North has moved so much they had to redesignate airport runways, look it up. There has been multiple anomalies of North and South poles opening up in the oceans, yes extra poles. This is what happens when there is a reversal,, you get a destabilized magnetic field before the flip. Multiple poles will open all over the world in different places, sometimes magnetic north in the south and visversa. Eventually the field will restablize with North where generally South is and South where North is. The physical poles wont be effected by this, just the readings on the compass. There is a threat by the magnetic pole reversal though. the magnetic field protects us from solar radiation, with a weakened field we will be more exposed. Especially if we get a large CME from a solar flare.

Sorry but I hate it when journalist don't actually do the research to find out the real science.

[Evan the Diplomat]

Only problem is they are not correct in the article saying there is little chance of magnetic pole reversal in our life times, and automaticly associating it with physical pole change. We are in a magnetic pole reversal right now. Yep it is already happening. No it has nothing to do with some other planet, it just happens once in awhile to the Earth. The magnetic North has moved so much they had to redesignate airport runways, look it up. There has been multiple anomalies of North and South poles opening up in the oceans, yes extra poles. This is what happens when there is a reversal,, you get a destabilized magnetic field before the flip. Multiple poles will open all over the world in different places, sometimes magnetic north in the south and visversa. Eventually the field will restablize with North where generally South is and South where North is. The physical poles wont be effected by this, just the readings on the compass. There is a threat by the magnetic pole reversal though. the magnetic field protects us from solar radiation, with a weakened field we will be more exposed. Especially if we get a large CME from a solar flare.

Sorry but I hate it when journalist don't actually do the research to find out the real science.

Sorry but I will have to inject some real science here. My wife is a no kidding PhD in geophysics, specializing in paleo-magnetism. By coincidence, today she just turned in a paper on magnetic pole flipping. None of us will ever live to see it happen. Turns out it takes between two and three thousand years for the poles to shift.

The wandering of magnetic North is just normal magnetic variation. This will have no effect on the amount solar radiation the earth receives.

[Braticus Caticus]

Well, I for one am going to test how bullet-proof my home is by shooting a .22 at it from 100 yards away.

[JFlagg]

Well, I for one am going to test how bullet-proof my home is by shooting a .22 at it from 100 yards away.

I laughed at that... They used 22LR of all rounds. They were also shooting the corner post on the storage container, where anyone familiar with their construction knows the metal is 3-4x thicker than anywhere else on the container. shoot it anywhere else and it probably would have penetrated.

[Evan the Diplomat]

here is my critique of the first episode. I thought the first couple had impressive preps for a threat that will never happen, but they are ready for everything else. Shooting the thickest part of part of their own structure was simply moronic. Their baroque redneck design style provides excellent OpSec. You would expect tetanus, not a treasure trove of supplies in that place.

The second prepper had magnificent personal skills and certainly didn't come across as looney. But I would have liked to see him use his sling, at least against a tin can. Those things take a lot of practice. I thought his arrowhead trade goods were ridiculous. At what point following an earthquake, will people start making handmade arrows to hunt for food. I didn't see any bow hunting in Japan following the earthquake and tsunami.

There was something not quite right about the young lady from Houston. She had a weird detached aura around her. She's prepping for a global oil crisis and she does not seem to own a bicycle? What's up with that? She needs some real hiking shorts, her thick and sturdy thighs must have been chafing like hell. She needs to go to REI and learn how to pack a backpack. Some tent or something was dangling off the bottom of her BOB. Eating raw catfish? They call those fish bottom feeders for a reason. She'll get a case of the runs and then we will see just how fast she goes through her water supply.

[CaptBrainFreeze]

Cool Engineer 775 and Southern Prepper1 are part of the review team at the end of the show



He also explains some of the people on the show are a bit odd, and make preppers look crazy, some is the editing the Nat Geo does. They want to make preppers look batshit looney to all those normal people so they will keep watching tv instead of going out and prepping for themselves.

SP1 a friend of mine. Good people.

[JFlagg]

here is my critique of the first episode. I thought the first couple had impressive preps for a threat that will never happen, but they are ready for everything else. Shooting the thickest part of part of their own structure was simply moronic. Their baroque redneck design style provides excellent OpSec. You would expect tetanus, not a treasure trove of supplies in that place.

The second prepper had magnificent personal skills and certainly didn't come across as looney. But I would have liked to see him use his sling, at least against a tin can. Those things take a lot of practice. I thought his arrowhead trade goods were ridiculous. At what point following an earthquake, will people start making handmade arrows to hunt for food. I didn't see any bow hunting in Japan following the earthquake and tsunami.

There was something not quite right about the young lady from Houston. She had a weird detached aura around her. She's prepping for a global oil crisis and she does not seem to own a bicycle? What's up with that? She needs some real hiking shorts, her thick and sturdy thighs must have been chafing like hell. She needs to go to REI and learn how to pack a backpack. Some tent or something was dangling off the bottom of her BOB. Eating raw catfish? They call those fish bottom feeders for a reason. She'll get a case of the runs and then we will see just how fast she goes through her water supply.

I thought exactly all this too!

[uneekwahn]

If anyone knows where it can be obtained for those in Australia, it would be greatly appreciated.

The "normal" places don't seem to have it yet.

[catalyst]

that chick in those shorts gave me nightmares. out of all of the families... i think i liked the gardening couple with the apple press the best. They lacked solar preps, but i liked how they actually just turned it into a hobby / way of life, and not into something cracked out and ridiculous.

the heavyset self-defense instructor also seemed a bit awkward. she was creepy friendly, like deep down she is a gourmet cook / serial killer, and that bothers me.

the botanist also impressed me. i kept thinking how neat it'd be to see him in a dual survival episode with cody lundin.