Tperkins' WALK Trauma Pack (Old FAK Bag)

[Medic Mentor]

Tper,

Keep an eye on the mail,

Valium is controlled, it is awesome to have that med--many uses but if it is labeled with a different name...be careful.

Eppi Pen is great to have, there is a different in Eppi Jr type pen, diff dose.

Nice to make a few thro kits if you got the bigger Lok Sak bags to put a dressing, NPA, mini duct tape.....vacuum pack it. Nice to toss to another person or put in their cargo pocket if you send them on a mission to hit the Zombie camps....

Resp

MM

[Sheepdog-Z]

Dude, that is some nice gear. I may have to print this bad boy out when I finally get to putting together a good trauma pack... I've seen quite a few in the field but this seems a little more complete for the extended but supported urban operation. Nice!

[Tperkins]

Dude, that is some nice gear. I may have to print this bad boy out when I finally get to putting together a good trauma pack... I've seen quite a few in the field but this seems a little more complete for the extended but supported urban operation. Nice!

Thanks man! Hopefully I'll have a few more updates in the upcoming week or two for you to look at as well.

[Sheepdog-Z]

The medical kit is something I haven't spent much time thinking about. We usually have a designated medical guy or will have more advanced medical response standing by if needed. This is a major hole in my preps, especially considering what I'll likely be busy with in the event of a major disaster. I appreciate being able to build on what you've obviously spent some time on.

[Acquisitor]

Using a pelican case to put your cold packs in is a great idea; I'll have to get one.

The only thing I would add is a headlamp. I have a Petzl E-light in the top of my bag.

[Tperkins]

Using a pelican case to put your cold packs in is a great idea; I'll have to get one.

The only thing I would add is a headlamp. I have a Petzl E-light in the top of my bag.

Yeah, what I think I'm going to do is take my BD Storm headlamp that sits on my bedpost and throw it in the bag, because it's only like 2 feet further from my bedpost.

I'll have some NPAs and ARS decompression kits by the end of the week I beleive, so there will be an update over the weekend if not sooner. Working on some reorganization as we speak. I think one or two of the $15 disposable litters are on the list as well.

[Medic Mentor]

Should be there today or tomm. Hit the dolar store for an assort of OTC meds. Also a ziplock full of small bandaids for boo boo's. I call mine a "whiner" bag.

MM

[Tperkins]

Should be there today or tomm. Hit the dolar store for an assort of OTC meds. Also a ziplock full of small bandaids for boo boo's. I call mine a "whiner" bag.

MM

Yeah, I need to run through and restock that red REI FAK bag that's in the main compartment. I pillaged a bunch of that stuf during a training exercise, and a lot of the meds in there expired. Sounds good MM, hopefully today hah. I have work from 1600-0100, so If it doesnt get here before work I'll be sad. At least I dont have class at 0700 tomorrow.

[Honeypot]

Nice kit and presentation!

If/when you get a chance, could you take some pics of the different emergency trauma bandages, side-by-side?
Even better would be a separate thread, with a nice write up of pros vs cons for each.

I'm certain I'm not the only one confused by all the shiny choices.
For now, I've got a couple of civvie-white izzies, and a couple of simple "blood stopper" packs.


My only suggestion is to add a hand flashlight, in addition to the headlamp.
Two reasons:

• redundancy
  
• as a calming prop for a bystander, particularly in the case of a family medical emergency

The worst family medical emergency I ever participated in, one family member was quite literally in shock. I found something very useful yet very simple for that person to do, which ended up calming both of us.

I'll bet almost everyone here has had the childhood experience of holding a flashlight for a parent. It's simple enough for a child, and great for morale / family-bonding.

Good on you for prepping with your brother in mind.

[Tperkins]

Nice kit and presentation!

If/when you get a chance, could you take some pics of the different emergency trauma bandages, side-by-side?
Even better would be a separate thread, with a nice write up of pros vs cons for each.

I'm certain I'm not the only one confused by all the shiny choices.
For now, I've got a couple of civvie-white izzies, and a couple of simple "blood stopper" packs.


My only suggestion is to add a hand flashlight, in addition to the headlamp.
Two reasons:

• redundancy
  
• as a calming prop for a bystander, particularly in the case of a family medical emergency

The worst family medical emergency I ever participated in, one family member was quite literally in shock. I found something very useful yet very simple for that person to do, which ended up calming both of us.

I'll bet almost everyone here has had the childhood experience of holding a flashlight for a parent. It's simple enough for a child, and great for morale / family-bonding.

Good on you for prepping with your brother in mind.

Yeah, I can definitely do a trauma bandage comparison. I can do that this weekend when I update my bag pictures and loading. Thanks for the other input. Where do you get the white izzy's anyway? I can never find them.

[Tommy Tran]

So judging from the contents you prefer the olaes bandage over the Izzy...?

[Tperkins]

So judging from the contents you prefer the olaes bandage over the Izzy...?

I don't know if I would prefer the Olaes over the Israeli, but I do prefer the NARP (North American Rescue Products) combat dressing over the Israeli one. The Olaes is a lot bigger, because it is a 3-in one dressing, sort of. I can do a write up about how it's somewhat modular when I'm home on my normal computer and can link pictures. I can't do a proper post on my iPhone that I'm on now.

[Tommy Tran]

So judging from the contents you prefer the olaes bandage over the Izzy...?

I don't know if I would prefer the Olaes over the Israeli, but I do prefer the NARP (North American Rescue Products) combat dressing over the Israeli one. The Olaes is a lot bigger, because it is a 3-in one dressing, sort of. I can do a write up about how it's somewhat modular when I'm home on my normal computer and can link pictures. I can't do a proper post on my iPhone that I'm on now.

I gotcha... NARP is fun to say hahahahaha
I like the Olaes cause it can do a lot besides be a basic bandage, but you are correct it is really bulky. I run my plate carrier IFAK with a 6" olaes and its the largest thing in there

[Medic Mentor]

My 2 cents,

If I had to chosds only one, go with the Olaes. If I got a couple I do really like the Izzy's, I used a lot of Izzy's in Iraq. They worked well. But I like the BIG Izzy! 4 inch and even 6 inch Izzy's can be a bit small.

I alos like the big cinch, they work great too. No matter what I beleive that you need either scissors to cut you a peice of t shirt or cloth or what ever to stuff in big cavarnous wounds--fill in---with what ever dressing or a couple of small guaze or a big ass Kerlix.

Duct tape is not bad either. I still remember carrying ACE wraps and Kerlix in Desert Storm, I digresss.....

[Tommy Tran]

I always carry what I feel to be a slightly excessive amount of H&H compressed gauze for this purpose and because its a hell of a lot more space efficient than kerlix

[Honeypot]

Yeah, I can definitely do a trauma bandage comparison. I can do that this weekend when I update my bag pictures and loading.

Shiny!
Just what you (and others here) have already typed has been very helpful.
I'm looking forward to moar.

Pics of the major gauze types would also be welcome.
Even though I'd seen lots of pics on ZS, until I got my box of Kerlix (from an Amazon 3p vendor), I didn't really grok how huge those rolls are. They're near the size of a can of SPAM.

Where do you get the white izzy's anyway? I can never find them.

Don't anyone hate me...

Botach!

A few months ago, bfum1059 posted about their Izzy prices in the "Bug Out Gear Deals" thread:
$4.65 First Care FCP-03 4" Emergency Bandage White
$4.95 First Care FCP-06 6" Emergency Bandage White

He(?) had pointed out there was free shipping, so spinning the Botach roulette wheel was relatively low risk. Plus, I recently succombed to Suze Orman's advice to get a frakkin' credit card, so it was even lower risk.

I too had been hunting for a good price for a couple of years, so ordered a few (some were very well received stocking stuffers for Prepper friends), and they arrived in a timely manner, with no problems.

I strongly suspect I had no problems because these must be "core inventory" items, so the well documented "out of stock" nightmares would not apply.

It appears that sale and "clearance" items are usually the problems... that and their terrible customer service.

Cyber-Security-wise, Botach uses Yahoo stores, which works beautifully with all security settings, even IE's Ultimate Anti-Zombie Defense "high" setting.

[Tommy Tran]

H&H compressed gauze is about 2"x2"x.75" it has a lot of packaging but it all flaps down

[Tperkins]

Picked up 10 rolls of Kendall Conform Stretch Gauze, as suggested. No pics yet, will do so when I get my other goodies I'm waiting on.

[Tperkins]

This is an old setup, here is the link to my new bag. I will leave this up for others to see what my pack used to look like, and for those who happen to have the same pack and would like to see how it could be set up.

My new Trauma Bag thread is here