WWYD: If you had to move countries, where would you go?

[williaty]

If you're talking about finding a place of safety when other parts of the world collapse, gun laws shoudl be way down the list behind economic indicators, etc. If you are fleeing an economic meltdown, would it not make sense to flee to a place of economc strength with little regard to relatively trivial issues such as gun laws?

Indubitably, my good sir or madam.

[dustycanuck]

Well, I'm biased since I live here, but I'd suggest Canada.

Some replies have brought up excellent reason, no the least of which was gypsyblood's "...and Rush...don't forget Rush!" lol.

And, we have some of the best neighbours around. Putting a twist on an earlier post, "I always thought that if I left Canada, it would be for the USA. I’ve never met an American I didn’t like.

The geography of Canada is diverse, offering arctic, coastal, rainforest, prairie, and many more ecosystems to explore. Couple that with close and easy access to US geography, and one can hone their survival skills in many arenas.

And being that the OP is from Australia, he might be interested to note that our damn cold winter season keeps the population of poisonous spiders, scorpions, snakes, and whatever else can kill you 'down under', to low-to-nonexistant levels. Also, no salt water crocs.

My 2 cents.

[ei8htx]

Liberal gun laws used to describe less restrictiveness is an oxymoron.

[squinty]

Liberal gun laws used to describe less restrictiveness is an oxymoron.

Not at all.
The word liberal means what it means, and in the US plenty of conservative politicians have signed or drafted gun restrictive laws.
http://reason.com/archives/2011/12/21/c ... ing-people

[ei8htx]

Liberal gun laws used to describe less restrictiveness is an oxymoron.

Not at all.
The word liberal means what it means, and in the US plenty of conservative politicians have signed or drafted gun restrictive laws.
http://reason.com/archives/2011/12/21/c ... ing-people

Just because a conservative politician signed up... oh fuck it, nvmd

I just have to stop and think twice every time I see those words put next to each other. Are they implying more or less gun control? There's (at least) 2 definitions of liberal.

Liberal gun laws implies a political definition of liberal, liberal gun control perhaps implies a dictionary definition (IMO, idk).

Meh, that's my English lesson for today.

OT:
I don't think I'd ever leave the US under any circumstances, but if I did, I'd probably go to Canada.

[squinty]

Liberal gun laws used to describe less restrictiveness is an oxymoron.

Not at all.
The word liberal means what it means, and in the US plenty of conservative politicians have signed or drafted gun restrictive laws.
http://reason.com/archives/2011/12/21/c ... ing-people

Just because a conservative politician signed up... oh fuck it, nvmd

I just have to stop and think twice every time I see those words put next to each other. Are they implying more or less gun control? There's (at least) 2 definitions of liberal.

Liberal gun laws implies a political definition of liberal, liberal gun control perhaps implies a dictionary definition (IMO, idk).

Meh, that's my English lesson for today.

OT:
I don't think I'd ever leave the US under any circumstances, but if I did, I'd probably go to Canada.

People in the Romero movies were often hell bent for Canada, for poorly explained reasons.

[dallas]

Personally, I work with several docs who escaped from Canada and will not go back. Most of what I know of Canada comes from them and several Canadian residents I have supervised. They might be biased against Canada since they left. They like Texas a lot better.

[skelco]

Liberal gun laws used to describe less restrictiveness is an oxymoron.

I'm having a little fun, but it's really the perfect word to use to describe laws that are liberal in their allowance of you to poses liberal amounts and types of firearms. Conversely, I live in a state with laws that are conservative about what kind of firearms I may own and how and where I may carry them. I wish I had some of those liberal 30 round clips for my M1, but I have to make due with these darn conservative 10 rounders.

[mantis]

People in the Romero movies were often hell bent for Canada, for poorly explained reasons.

Romero himself moved to Toronto a few years back and became a Canadian citizen (dual US - Canadian citizenship) in 2009.

[ei8htx]

Liberal gun laws used to describe less restrictiveness is an oxymoron.

I'm having a little fun, but it's really the perfect word to use to describe laws that are liberal in their allowance of you to poses liberal amounts and types of firearms. Conversely, I live in a state with laws that are conservative about what kind of firearms I may own and how and where I may carry them. I wish I had some of those liberal 30 round clips for my M1, but I have to make due with these darn conservative 10 rounders.

[azrael99]

where would i go ? if it wasn't of the harsh winter, i would stay here. i have everything i need. fresh water, wood, food, but winter is unpredictable, some years you will be lucky if you see one foot of snow, the next one, there will be 5m of snow.

if i must leave i would go south, around Ontario or Maine. winter is still there but it easier. warmer with less snow than here.

[squinty]

Liberal gun laws used to describe less restrictiveness is an oxymoron.

I'm having a little fun, but it's really the perfect word to use to describe laws that are liberal in their allowance of you to poses liberal amounts and types of firearms. Conversely, I live in a state with laws that are conservative about what kind of firearms I may own and how and where I may carry them. I wish I had some of those liberal 30 round clips for my M1, but I have to make due with these darn conservative 10 rounders.

neener!

[BullOnParade]

People in the Romero movies were often hell bent for Canada, for poorly explained reasons.

Romero himself moved to Toronto a few years back and became a Canadian citizen (dual US - Canadian citizenship) in 2009.

He was bugging out ... From his ex wife.

[Horatio_Tyllis]

Definately Croatia for me. I lived there for 12 years, speak the language and was totally immersed in the culture; wife is Croatian, we have family there and a house on one of the islands in the Adriatic. I think we're set up pretty good there.

Yup, Serbia/Montenegro for me assuming there was nowhere left in Canada or the United States. My family owns a ton of land in Montenegro, and (assuming that's not fucked too) I can make very decent money teaching english.

[minengr]

In an attempt to not get political I would suggest the following.

Wether picking a Country, State, Province, or Territory I'd look for somewhere with few large metropolitan areas, large open spaces and a semi-harsh winter climate. In my limited experience, that combination will weed out most unsavory people.

Working in the mining industry, I could go nearly anwhere in the world if I wanted. Things would have to get much worse in the US for me to leave (and i've looked into it a bit), leaving Illinois in particular, that's a different story. I've left before and if it wasn't for family, I'd probably have left again a couple years ago. Right now my income to BS ratio is favoring the income. When/if that changes, I'll be heading west again.

Good luck.

[Chantrea]

Well, since my Spanish is extremely crappy after 20 years of un-use, I'm really limited. We almost moved to Ireland for hubby's job a few years back (disappointing that it didn't work out, I'd love for my kids to have an opportunity to live in a different country, like I got to when I was a kid), and have almost moved to Canada (Alberta and BC) a couple of times.

I think I would like the Vancouver, BC area. I greatly enjoyed living in Gloucestershire as a kid. It would be nice to live somewhere where we did not have to pay $1000/mo out of pocket for shitty catastrophic-only medical coverage but I dunno, there's always trade offs. I love the climate of the maritime PacNW USA; so for me to enjoy myself I'd probably have to stick to certain parts of the UK and Canada. While the climate is a bit too cold for me to like it in winter, I also wouldn't mind living in South Korea (but I guess from a 'safety' point of view that might not be the best decision ), since I have a ton of friends there and love the culture (and food!).

I don't have any illusions that there is some 'perfect place' out there for me. For all its faults, the US is a pretty mild and easy place to live. And I know there are assholes in every city on the planet, and something I'm going to find fault with everywhere too. I've met more rude, mean assholes in rural areas than I did living DT in a big city. So even the idea of city vs. country is shot for me.

Pick a place where you are comfortable and where you like it. I think I could make do just about anywhere, but really Seattle is just my favoritest place ever.

[Domindart]

tropics maybe

[ODA 226]

Definately Croatia for me. I lived there for 12 years, speak the language and was totally immersed in the culture; wife is Croatian, we have family there and a house on one of the islands in the Adriatic. I think we're set up pretty good there.

Yup, Serbia/Montenegro for me assuming there was nowhere left in Canada or the United States. My family owns a ton of land in Montenegro, and (assuming that's not fucked too) I can make very decent money teaching english.

I spent a lot of time in Niksic...I love Herzeg Novi and Kotar...much cheaper than Dubrovnic or Split!

[azrael99]

just try to find the place where you will no longer survive, but only live.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

If Canada's in one piece, then Canada it is. The speak a corrupt version of 'Murrhican, they have Toyotas and Subarus, and Norinco M14s. And Meese. Mooses. Mooze?

Fuck ti, there are large things living there with giant antlers.

[bigmattdaddywack]

Upper Peninsula of Michigan?

[Chantrea]

Upper Peninsula of Michigan?

It's pretty there, lots of fun outdoorsy things to do, we were stationed at KI when it was still open. You definitely have to be lake effect snow-tolerant though. Economy is not great though, unless something major has changed since the 90s.

[boomas]

Well if i had to move countries, i always figured that Lithuania would look good next to France.

Under no circumstances I advise to move to Lithuania or any other East block country for that matter. It may be quite a shock. In last 10 years Lithuania lost 10 proc of its' citizens for a simple reason as an emigration. You may want to re-think about moving to the country which everyone else is leaving. Being from Lithuania myself, I have to ask - why did you choose it?

[the_alias]

Well if i had to move countries, i always figured that Lithuania would look good next to France.

Under no circumstances I advise to move to Lithuania or any other East block country for that matter. It may be quite a shock. In last 10 years Lithuania lost 10 proc of its' citizens for a simple reason as an emigration. You may want to re-think about moving to the country which everyone else is leaving. Being from Lithuania myself, I have to ask - why did you choose it?

Welcome to the forum!

I think Chase was making a joke - as in physically picking up Lithuania and moving it next to France! Not as in actually moving himself to that country.