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Re: combat communication

Postby Hayling » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:14 pm

RadioShooter wrote:I will be out of toilet paper long before the batteries die anyway. Why live if you can't wipe in confort.

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Re: combat communication

Postby Stab74 » Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:54 am

This is a long time in coming. Anyway I'm in Iraq again and brought my 2 i355's with me. I love em. I'm a commo guy and convinced my sigo these are secure enough to use for mundane things around the fob like running cables, taking to the PX, and whatever. So far I can get at least a mile and a half out of em. That includes going through big concrete t wall barriers and metal buildings. My bats are alittle old but will last at least a day of use. I ordered the two long antennas but couldnt figure out how to take the phone apart to put em on. Its fine though as they wouldnt fit in my shoulder or ankle pockets on my uniform otherwise. Some other guys in the shop are thinking about ordering em now. Big thumbs up!
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Re: combat communication

Postby RadioShooter » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:50 pm

Stab74,

You don't have to take the radio apart to switch out the antennas. If you pull out the OEM antenna and look into the hole, you will see an internal nut with two slits in it. Use a 1/4 inch blade screwdriver to slide in the slits and unscrew it. The base of the retractable antenna will out and you can put the external one in its place. I change mine depending on whether I am using the Boost network or going tactical.

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Re: combat communication

Postby fart_plume » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:24 am

i hope it is realized the good ol' am band CB can have a very long range given the right atomspheric conditions. When I was a kid in the 70's my dad used to talk skip to England from Missouri. This was done using only two watts of power. He also has an Extra class ham license and participated in competitions to see who could make the longest distance contact using only two watts on ham radio.

Another thing when using a CB is if you want your comm to be secure use a coded Comm matrix card.(this is a 12 row high x 14 row wide chart of phrases represented by two letters, left letter first then the top letter) All you have to to change to code is re arrange the letters. Simple but effective.
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Re: combat communication

Postby gary in ohio » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:29 am

fart_plume wrote:i hope it is realized the good ol' am band CB can have a very long range given the right atomspheric conditions.

Problem is during the right atomspheic times everyone is using the radio that brings up the nosie floor even more. a CB is NOT a good reliable long range communication radio. hand held to handheld 2-3 miles, mobile to mobile up to 10 miles, base to base 25-50 miles. Any more range is llucky chance and with low solor cycle right now your reliable base/base range is going to be pretty crappy as well.
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Re: combat communication

Postby fart_plume » Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:14 pm

gary in ohio wrote:
fart_plume wrote:i hope it is realized the good ol' am band CB can have a very long range given the right atomspheric conditions.

Problem is during the right atomspheic times everyone is using the radio that brings up the nosie floor even more. a CB is NOT a good reliable long range communication radio. hand held to handheld 2-3 miles, mobile to mobile up to 10 miles, base to base 25-50 miles. Any more range is llucky chance and with low solor cycle right now your reliable base/base range is going to be pretty crappy as well.


We started using CB in the 60's so I've lived through 4 of the solar cycles, granted it can play havok with CB, butit plays havok with ALL electronics. Stll for a cheap alternative CB should not be overlooked. With the advent of the internet (which more or less replaced CB as entertainment) and cell phones, hopefully there is not as many people on the air now.
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Re: combat communication

Postby 1911-a1 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:11 pm

Hey guys, does anyone know where I can get one of those NNTN5539 antennas for my i355?

I've checked on ebay, there is only one seller there and he wants $90(!!!) in shipping.
I've checked those 2 links posted earlier in this thread. One of them only seems to ship to the US, and the other one ships to the US and... Qatar.
I live in Sweden. Does anyone know of a good website that ships internationally, and has good prices?

I managed to get 2 i355's with chargers from the US to Sweden and I only paid $16 in shipping, so paying more than that for a tiny antenna doesn't feel right :)
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Re: combat communication

Postby BEar667 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:23 pm

Paladin1 wrote:I've got GMRS with ear buds/microphone clip set to VOX. For a team that doesn't want to get the chatter picked up a mile away.


Wouldn't a scanner, scanning the freq's pick it up anyway with out any scrambling (which as we know is a no no currently at least on Ham freq's)?
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Re: combat communication

Postby STiMULi » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:39 pm

What is it called when I wake up a thread that has been dead for a while? Necromancing? Reanimating? Zombie thread?

I have become interested in the i355 handset for its flexibility and basic short range security. I too have give some thought of merging with an HAM radio or even a wormhole on the internet (VOIP). Does anyone know of any successful attempts?
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Re: combat communication

Postby Tater Raider » Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:22 pm

STiMULi wrote:What is it called when I wake up a thread that has been dead for a while? Necromancing? Reanimating? Zombie thread?

Thread Necro.

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Re: combat communication

Postby dodo54360 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:56 pm

there a few interesting videos on youtube about those phones.
check "brokor1 - Mobile Operations Security (MOS)"
that's how a got into it too...
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Re: combat communication

Postby STiMULi » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:24 am

Thanks for the info. I will post what I learn.
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Re: combat communication

Postby STiMULi » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:16 pm

dodo54360 wrote:there a few interesting videos on youtube about those phones.
check "brokor1 - Mobile Operations Security (MOS)"
that's how a got into it too...


I found this thread on another P/S site. Seems to have a good collection of information on it and some pretty good videos too. I got a couple of these and I am very happy with their short range potential. I still need to learn more about the how to set up each radio with it's own number. Looks like it is well outlined, I just need to try it and make it work.


Click here for the Link to the i355 thread

While looking around the communications section I found a few threads on the i355 and the DirecTalk
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Re: combat communication

Postby dodo54360 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:22 pm

STiMULi wrote:
I found this thread on another P/S site. Seems to have a good collection of information on it and some pretty good videos too. I got a couple of these and I am very happy with their short range potential. I still need to learn more about the how to set up each radio with it's own number. Looks like it is well outlined, I just need to try it and make it work.


Click here for the Link to the i355 thread

While looking around the communications section I found a few threads on the i355 and the DirecTalk


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Re: combat communication

Postby Priest0817 » Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:19 pm

my group is running yaesu FT-60r. with a wide variety of antennas. as far as miss I usually run a AK defense "trooper" mic with ear bud or a custom TCI PTT with my sordid headset. I LOVE the sordid head set. I am near deaf in one ear and it is a cross between a hearing aid, como head set, and ear pro. work great! but it is big and expensive
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Re: combat communication

Postby STiMULi » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:24 am

dodo54360 wrote:
STiMULi wrote:
I found this thread on another P/S site. Seems to have a good collection of information on it and some pretty good videos too. I got a couple of these and I am very happy with their short range potential. I still need to learn more about the how to set up each radio with it's own number. Looks like it is well outlined, I just need to try it and make it work.


Click here for the Link to the i355 thread

While looking around the communications section I found a few threads on the i355 and the DirecTalk


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Re: combat communication

Postby STiMULi » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:25 am

Priest0817 wrote:my group is running yaesu FT-60r. with a wide variety of antennas. as far as miss I usually run a AK defense "trooper" mic with ear bud or a custom TCI PTT with my sordid headset. I LOVE the sordid head set. I am near deaf in one ear and it is a cross between a hearing aid, como head set, and ear pro. work great! but it is big and expensive


I love the FT60 I cut my teeth on the FT50 :)
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Re: combat communication

Postby LowKey » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:55 pm

Chef wrote:There's a decent hand signal dictionary floating around the interwebs, pictures of a guy in a black balaclava and an MP5. I'm sure somebody here knows where to link to it.

ETA: http://www.lefande.com/hands.html

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Re: combat communication

Postby foxfyre841 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:34 pm

I'll join in the necro as hopefully the very knowledgeable people that have in the past contributed to this thread will continue to do so.

RadioShooter wrote:There is a UT110#2 module for the F40GT/F43GT radios that uses a rolling code system

I have seen the UT modules on the web for about $100 apiece, but declined to purchase since I shouldn't use them on GMRS and amatuer radio. We will see if the policies of the new federal administration make me change my mind.
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I am not knowledgeable regarding regulations dealing with encryption of private units. Has the expected change occurred? What is the current ruling?

I also am looking for a good radio (or two). I would like to have a bit of power (4-5 watts). I would like to have the option for encryption. And I would like for it to be rugged and water resistant (submersible @ 1m would be nice). AA power would be great but not a deal breaker. So far the Icom f4XGT and saber-III seem like good buys: both are sub-300 dollars the saber being especially cheap.

The bendix king GPH has also been mentioned but I am unsure of how water resistant it is and have not noticed any encryption capabilities.

Any help is appreciated.

James

There has been some talk regarding potential issues with the saber-3 radio. If possible, I would like to hear more on this.
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Re: combat communication

Postby 44Dave » Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:19 pm

What is this Icom f4XGT? Google has no mention of it.
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Re: combat communication

Postby foxfyre841 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:46 pm

The F40GT/F43GT models. X was just a place holder for the 40 series.
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Re: combat communication

Postby RadioShooter » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:37 am

There is no change concerning the use of coded radio transmissions on amatuer radio, GMRS, and MURS. It is still prohibited, but having the parts in your radio is not prohibited. If I bought some modules, I would test them on the public safety system that I am authorized to use.

The Icom F40GS and F40GT units work pretty well and they have a 6 cell alkaline case for them. The only drawback is the power automatically reduces to 1 watt with it on the radio. The Icom F43GS and GT unit have a 6 cell AAA case. I don't have it and can't say if the power is reduced when using them.

The Direct talk function on the I-355 radios works but the nasty chirp can't be turned off making them less than clandestine.

I have two of the Motorola GP380 VHF radios, one Icom F3061 VHF, and one Icom F33GS VHF. I also have an Icom V82 ham radio. I have two Icom F40GT UHF radios and one Icom F43GS. I also have two Icom U82 ham units. For all the disparity, I am pretty much sold on keeping all the radios using the same battery and using only VHF or 2 meters for tactical comms. The Yaesu VX-170(270) appears to be water resistant, keypad programmable, and is capable of using 6 cell alkaline battery cases. I would buy radios like this instead of the hodgepodge I ended up with. Especially since GMRS repeaters may be regulated out of existence by the FCC near future.

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Re: combat communication

Postby foxfyre841 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:29 pm

Yeah the yaesu vx-170 has great features. It's been pretty prevalent on these forums and is fairly cheap to boot ($100 to $170).

How about the bendix king eph and gph 5102x models? These have been very popular with wild land fire crews. They offer 9xAA battery packs or ni-cad rechargeable. Because the FS and FDept are moving away from these they can be found used right at the $200 mark. These are basically upgraded prc-127's that were miltary models of the much older IPH bendix models.

Anyone know much about these?


BTW: the eph and gph start vhf at 148 but can be programmed more bottom end (HAM) via a downloadable called "eggs and HAM" or "green eggs and HAM"
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Re: combat communication

Postby buck85 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:36 am

Metatron wrote:The only other comm's kit I carry is a Uniden UBC-3500XLT scanner as I like the close call feature which picks up anyone transmiting near you automatically, so I can hear who is about. I have a ear piece pluged into that.

I like that good counter measure!!
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