AR Slings

[ais4122]

Okay, I searched first, but didnt find a thread to answer my question. So here it goes. Which is better, a two point sling or a one point sling? I have always used two point slings or no slings. But I see one point slings are becoming more popular. They look like they are excellent for going from the ready position to a firing position. I guess the only downside is if your not on a range. If you need both hands to move, carry etc, I can see the rifle hitting the ground, especially if your bending down. Less likely with a two point sling which you can swing behind your back. But I have never used a one point sling so Im not sure. Any opinions, comments, experience with the one point sling? Pros Cons of either? I would like get a one point sling, but would like a couple AARs to justifiy buying it. Thanks.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

Modular 2 point slings rock, 1 points are OK, but I prefer the 2pt. 3point slings are on the decline, from what I've seen, as the military replaces them with the VTAC.

[RepeatDefender]

Two point, all the way. I tried and tried to like a single point. Even took a couple classes with one. Now I'm completely sold on the two point. Specifically the VCAS type adjustable two points. They cost a pretty penny, but I believe they're worth it.

[Finch]

1907

I have a VCAS on mine but the next one will have a 1907

[WY_Not]

Depends on what you are doing.

My 20" scoped AR has a Turner Saddlery synthetic sling on it. Can be used to carry the rifle slung over a shoulder and still be able to be used in the "Hasty Sling" style or the "Loop Sling" style. Both of these styles are great for field use or at the range. This AR is for use in the field.

My 16" AR has a single point (?) that attaches to a single point on the rifle. An adapter attaches where the buffer tube connects to the receiver. The adapter is an Midwest Industries MCTAR-13. Can't remember who made the sling but it is basically just a loop that goes over one shoulder, around the back and comes back through under the opposite arm. It has a bit of elastic in it to allow the rifle to hang more comfortably when moving. This AR is for use in house.

Have used the Turner sling a LOT. Love it. Once set up they are a great aid to accuracy.

The single point... not so much. Works well enough for what I need it for, allows for easy carry as well as easy transition from shoulder to shoulder as needed.

[MikeM]

I refuse to choose, and I run a 2 to 1 sling that mostly lives as a 1 point. The caveat here is that I run my AR slick with just irons, MOE and a light. If your weapon is heavy, packed with gizmos, whiz-bangs and can do duty as a boat anchor, then you are gonna want a 2 point.
Either way, it's hard to go wrong with a VTAC with an added 2 to 1 adapter from ITW.

-Mike

[omega_man]

Emdom slings rock at both. But, I much prefer the 2-point set-up.
http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/servlet/emdomusa/Detail?no=57

[UndeadInfidel]

I like a single point as long as I'm using a carbine, and the sling has plenty of adjustment to cinch it down nice and tight (keeps it from banging off my knee caps if I transition).

Otherwise, 2 point.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

I like a single point for my AR pistol. For many of my other ARs I prefer the 3 point. It just works for me.

[Dave_M]

Advanced 2-points are the most versatile GP setups IMO. If I were strictly on an entry team I'd go with a single but for everything else, 2-point.

My current first recommendation would be an Ares Armor sling:
http://www.aresarmor.com/install/ecom-p ... ey2pt.html

VTAC and VCAS slings are also both very good. People generally have a preference one way or another but they are both very good slings.

[AeroRat]

1907

I have a VCAS on mine but the next one will have a 1907

There are slings other than the 1907?

But seriously...an '07 sling on an AR is the shit.

[WY_Not]

Stupid question… Are the 1907 sling and the National Match Service Rifle Sling the same thing?

1907

I have a VCAS on mine but the next one will have a 1907

There are slings other than the 1907?

But seriously...an '07 sling on an AR is the shit.

[Dave_M]

But seriously...an '07 sling on an AR is the shit.

Maybe if you're shooting at Camp Perry but not if you're doing much else.

[WY_Not]

To each their own and whatever works for them.

In the field, the national match style sling works well for distance shooting.
For run and gun and door kicking... not so much.

Different tools for different jobs.

Oh, and I gotta ask... How does that Ares Armour sling you mentioned work? Didn't find anything on the site other than the description and ordering info. N/M Just found the video. Will have to wait till I get home to watch it.

But seriously...an '07 sling on an AR is the shit.

Maybe if you're shooting at Camp Perry but not if you're doing much else.

[RepeatDefender]

Looks like the Ares and VCAS are very similar. I need to try an Ares as they cost much less. Plus I've been wanting a similar sling setup for my VZ as my AR's. Good enough reason to buy one

[chills1994]

just use bungee cord dag-nabbit!



....butttt....in all seriousness, get the two point. I tried to like the single point, but I just felt like the thing was out to strangle me or something.

the way the AR hung with the two point sling was way more comfortable, natural feeling.

[agent-smith]

But seriously...an '07 sling on an AR is the shit.

Maybe if you're shooting at Camp Perry but not if you're doing much else.

You're dead to me.

[agent-smith]

just use bungee cord dag-nabbit!

Man has a point...

[chills1994]

yeah, thanks!

my other point being, for what they asking for, for some nylon webbing and some snap swivels from the hardware store, you might be better off just making your own from scratch.

[PotatoMuncher]

I've always functioned better with a one point, but I use a Israeli Army two point on my Galil.

[crypto]

I own both the VCAS and VTAC slings, and am about to buy the Ares Amentum sling.

Heres the breakdown on what they have in common and how they differ.


COMMON:
'Modern 2-point' slings that function as both a shoulder strap to carry the rifle both across the chest, and on the back.
Feature a quick-pull tab on them to allow the user to properly tension the sling to put it into firing position in a second.
Allow the user to pop their support elbow out of the sling to transition to support-side shooting.
Increase weapon stability in almost every fighting position except prone.
Work best when as close to the ends of the weapon as possible. (that means buttstock and near front sight tower; not Receiver end-plate and delta ring, you assholes)

VCAS AND ARES:
The large buckle that you pull forward to tighten the sling is the same device you pull to loosen the sling.

VTAC and ARES:
Made out of buttery smooth seat-belt webbing material that feels good on your neck.

VTAC:
Employs a metal spring clip near the shoulder to loosen the sling. You pull on the loop to tension it, then reach back to pop it loose again.

VCAS:
Made out of holy-shit-uncomfortable coarse cordura webbing that will rub sunburned skin right the fuck off your body if you dont keep your shoulder and neck covered up



My subjective opinion on the three:

I started out with the VCAS and while I love the way it operates (pull buckle forward to tension, pull back to loosen), the fuckin webbing weave is a deal-breaker for me. I'm not high-speed enough to roll to training or matches in a goddamned polo shirt with a popped collar.

Then I got a VTAC because the webbing feels so much better. Its much more comfortable, but that spring-clip was stupid on ALICE shoulder straps and its stupid on slings too. I dont like the more complex manual of arms it requires to operate, and loosening the sling usually ends up being a tortured affair for me.

The Area Amentum combines the material of the VTAC with the single tensioning system of the VCAS, and is the clear winner for me.

[ais4122]

Thanks for all the replys. I got some good info out of them. Perhaps I should of mentioned I was planning on using the sling for an AR 15 carbine. Although 2 point is by far the most popular, I saw specific carbine references to using a one point. I have seen some 2/1 point combos. I will probably get one of those.

[0122358]

im different. i like my 3 point for the ability to patrol carry and easily swing it behind my back. Plus i think it distributes the wieght a bit better IMO. Then again i havent tired all the new fancy slings out there so i cant poo poo them.

Also would the standard 1 inch nylon sling that comes with most AR's be considered a crappy 2 point?

[M_anstrom]

VTAC's are my favorite slings for M4's but for bolt guns and M1A's the M1907 sling can't be beat.