Background check for handgun purchase?

[Kutter_0311]

Rugger, I feel bad for you. I got delayed several times after I got out of the service. Hell, I think I got delayed again when I bought guns this spring. I don't have an evil twin, but I know there is a guy with a name close to mine that has... a history of unlawful violence (mine was military, so lawful)

I remember asking myself the 1st time I filled out that paperwork, "Who needs a freakin PIN #? WTF?"

Just about every time since, I've thought "I'm just gonna get a damn PIN # pretty soon..."

We only have the rights we're willing to fight for, brother. Sometimes, that fight takes the inglorious form of struggling through a hill of paperwork and red tape...

[Rugger]

Thanks for all of the advice. Yep, the worst part of it is the combo of being furious that my right has been taken away by the govt because of somebody else, being so sad and disappointed that this is happening in the U.S., and the shock of having the curtain pulled back to reveal that it's just an illusion of freedom for me. Now I'm nervous to see where this "evil twin" guy will pop up next. I'll let y'all know what I find out.

[jamoni]

Change your name to Rugger "Notthecriminalbutthegoodguy" Smith.

[silentpoet]

Get a chl and bypass the background check. I know you may have some difficulty with the process, but once you do, they don't have to submit your info for a background check.

Or you could get a good attorney and file suit because they are denying you your civil rights.

[Dave_M]

My brother in law was delayed every time until he got a pin. He shares a name with a rapist from Nevada IIRC.

[Rugger]

Or you could get a good attorney and file suit because they are denying you your civil rights.

Kind of what I was thinking. No question that my rights are being denied and that I am being treated like a criminal for something that I haven't done. I'm waiting for my friend to do the background check before I apply for the ccl, just to make sure it's not identity theft.

[Regular Guy]

Yeah, Ive never been delayed and I have a very strange last name. I highly suggest getting one.

or maybe it's because I've worked for the govt for the last 15 years?

[DannusMaximus]

Getting the runaround sucks. I have a first AND last name that are so boringly common that every time I check into a hotel the front desk person looks at me like "SURE, that's your name..." I've not had background check issues, but I really have to keep a close eye on my credit history and scores.

My suggestion is to get the process started to get that PIN number. It's a pain in the ass, sure, but jump through the hoops and get it done so you can be 'official' in the eyes of the FBI. It sounds like once you get the PIN you're good to go. It will all be over in a few months (7-8?) and then you'll have the information if you ever find yourself in a gun store and staring at a once in a lifetime opportunity. It might eventually end up being more of a pain to go around the rules than to roll with them.

An unfortunate side effect of trying to make sure that lunatics, terrorists, and other ne'er do wells can't legally purchase guns, I suppose. The good guys get caught in the wake.

[mariposa]

Texas has no waiting period, the background check is typically a phone call there from my understanding.

You probably share a name with someone on their watch list. ZS is not a watch list trigger, nor are speeding tickets.

I bought a 9mm at Gander Mountain in Spring, and the background check was a phone call. It was done in no more than 10 minutes. I've got a rather uncommon, ethnic last name that no "evil twin" would want to spell if they could. It's probably one of the few times in my life that it made things easier.

[kaizen]

FYI, Texas can process a clean chl app in about 30 days with electronic fingerprints and background check. Yours even complicated should be fast then the pin route.

[Rugger]

Thanks for the info guys. I'll be doing the CCL in my home county, as not many people live there. Supposedly, in Texas, it's much faster in a county with a lower number of applications, than in a county like Harris (Houston) County. I know they have an almost year wait in Houston. I already found an instructor that will come to where you are, if you have 5 or more taking the class and have a place to do the class. Just so happens there's six of us in my family and we have a fairly big ranch with our own shooting range.

Overall, it's a pain in the ass. But now I can justify buying ANOTHER pistol for EDC! The silver lining!

[Kutter_0311]

...And you were starting to doubt that silver lining cliche, weren't you? Admit it.

Even having an evil twin has a silver lining **singing** Always look on the briiiiight side of life...

[ei8htx]

That really effing sucks.

I'm pretty fortunate to have a unique last name and not terribly common first name (13 people in the whole US, IIRC). But yeah, if I were you I'd be pissed. Hopefully this pin business will work out for the better.

[98pointsix]

" Civil rights shmivel rights, It says right to bear not right to buy cant you read? duh. Don't get mad at us because you arent charming enough to just spontaneously induce acts of extreme kindness like people just giving you what ever firearm you want. You should stop complaining and concentrate on improving your personality."
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[Rugger]

LOL.... Yep. Oh, I've got my arms, I just want MOOOAAARRR. Still waiting for my friend to get back from vacation and to the office for my background check. I'm going to sit tight until that's done, just in case there is any identity theft involved.

[HKTackDriver]

Thanks for the info guys. I'll be doing the CCL in my home county, as not many people live there. Supposedly, in Texas, it's much faster in a county with a lower number of applications, than in a county like Harris (Houston) County. I know they have an almost year wait in Houston. I already found an instructor that will come to where you are, if you have 5 or more taking the class and have a place to do the class. Just so happens there's six of us in my family and we have a fairly big ranch with our own shooting range.

Overall, it's a pain in the ass. But now I can justify buying ANOTHER pistol for EDC! The silver lining!

Make sure that when you apply for the CCL that you disclose your prior issues with being able to purchase a gun. That way they attempt to work through the red tape, rather than simply deny you. If you're denied, there is a type of civil action you can bring against the state/county to force the granting of your CCL. In fact, as part of your application, here in NY, you can state why you want a pistol, I would add in your application that you are looking for an extra piece of ID from the state to verify you are the person who may lawfully purchase the guns and not the bag Smith.

[crypto]

I always get delayed for about 15 minutes when I buy one, apparently it involves 2 phone transfers before someone can approve me.

Still havent ever gotten a definitive answer on why.

[ei8htx]

I always get delayed for about 15 minutes when I buy one, apparently it involves 2 phone transfers before someone can approve me.

Still havent ever gotten a definitive answer on why.

Because you're on a prepper/milita website.

[palehorse1301]

I used to get delayed about half the time. That was until I got a C&R license in 2005. Ever since, even though I dedided to let it expire in 2009, I haven't been delayed one single time. It's amazed dealers at a show on a weekend when everyone was getting delayed. It's like I'm on the "approved list" or something.

[Kutter_0311]

I always get delayed for about 15 minutes when I buy one, apparently it involves 2 phone transfers before someone can approve me.

Still havent ever gotten a definitive answer on why.

Because you're on a prepper/milita website.

Or because you have "too many" already...

Somebody told me that buying 5 of any one type of gun got you on to a watch list of some type. I passed 5 AK's years ago...

[Kommander]

A friend of mine over got a visit from the ATF because he lived in a border state and tended to buy multiple military style rifles at once.

[crypto]

I always get delayed for about 15 minutes when I buy one, apparently it involves 2 phone transfers before someone can approve me.

Still havent ever gotten a definitive answer on why.

Because you're on a prepper/milita website.

No, the best possible answer Ive gotten is that it's because of where I work and what I do.

[Biggin]

I always get delayed for about 15 minutes when I buy one, apparently it involves 2 phone transfers before someone can approve me.

Still havent ever gotten a definitive answer on why.

Because you're on a prepper/milita website.

Or because you have "too many" already...

Somebody told me that buying 5 of any one type of gun got you on to a watch list of some type. I passed 5 AK's years ago...

False. They're referring to the multiple handgun purchase form, I think. That's the only thing I can think of.

[ei8htx]

I always get delayed for about 15 minutes when I buy one, apparently it involves 2 phone transfers before someone can approve me.

Still havent ever gotten a definitive answer on why.

Because you're on a prepper/milita website.

Or because you have "too many" already...

Somebody told me that buying 5 of any one type of gun got you on to a watch list of some type. I passed 5 AK's years ago...

I would think buying 5+ military style rifles at the same time would get you on somebody's list somewhere.

Side note: blue = sarcasm