Vibram Five Fingers (VFF)

[Artiz]

I just saw a guy wearing those today... he was in shorts too. I think he likes the show "Dual Survival".

I know I do.

[Baba Brad]

I've been wearing mine almost daily since I got them (Treksports). Exceptions: Work and catching a flight. So far, I love them. Comfy, oh so comfy. My toes are feel like they are spreading out a bit because they fit in the little toe pockets much easier now. Walking in them feels much nicer on my feet at the end of the day.

So far, I've had a few comments, guy standing in line at JC Penny and the folks at AT&T. Some people stare and look puzzled, some kids laugh and giggle, but no negative comments.

[praharin]

I just saw a guy wearing those today... he was in shorts too. I think he likes the show "Dual Survival".

I know I do.

I wear mine with shorts often. I do not like that show.

My toes are feel like they are spreading out a bit because they fit in the little toe pockets much easier now.

Makes you wonder how well your regular shoes actually "fit" your whole life, doesn't it.

[TDW586]

I wear mine with shorts often. I do not like that show.

I knew you were a terrible person.

Makes you wonder how well your regular shoes actually "fit" your whole life, doesn't it.

I know a guy who went up a full shoe size in normal shoes (9.5 to 10.5 I think it was) after about six months of wearing VFF's on a regular basis.

[Bender711]

Makes you wonder how well your regular shoes actually "fit" your whole life, doesn't it.

I found out I need at least a 4E width. Can't Imagine going back to regular width shoes now.

[Tendrax]

I've been tossing around the idea of these shoes for a while, unfortunately I work in a stock room and drop boxes and crap on my feet all the time, so I NEED boots at work. Still, thinking I might pick up a pair of treksports for around the house and day hikes and such. I feel like I'd have a pretty easy transition, since I only walk/run heel to toe in my boots. Maybe I'll head up to REI tomorrow and try some on.

[Kudzu]

I put in my order for some Treksports from REI. I've been debating these shoes for a while now but finally couldn't hold out any longer. Great job on here of giving reviews and insight.

[praharin]

I've been tossing around the idea of these shoes for a while, unfortunately I work in a stock room and drop boxes and crap on my feet all the time, so I NEED boots at work. Still, thinking I might pick up a pair of treksports for around the house and day hikes and such. I feel like I'd have a pretty easy transition, since I only walk/run heel to toe in my boots. Maybe I'll head up to REI tomorrow and try some on.

Just keep in mind that there is A LOT more to the transition than how you walk. In fact, walking toe-heel is not essential to minimalist footwear. In "barefoot" cultures, they have found both toe-heel walkers AND heel-toe walkers. Running is another matter, because the mid-foot (almost flat-foot, favoring the front slightly) strike is the most efficient/least brutal answer to running barefoot.

**As I understand it. I haven't read anything other than a little online. I have talked to a few anthropologists though.**

Just take it slow when you begin the switch. Foot muscles are probably your least used muscles, so they will need time to build strength. After two years, mine sometimes still need breaks. I tend to wear Crocs for that, but...



You just have to understand their limitations too

[Civilian Scout]

Foot muscles are probably your least used muscles, so they will need time to build strength.

QFT

In my experience, running will build up your leg muscles, abdominal muscles and your lower back muscles; but until you switch to minimal shoes you never really work your foot muscles much.

[Tendrax]

Yeah, if I do get them the plan is to just wear them around the house for a while, maybe a couple of short 1-2 mile hikes on super easy terrain. Of course, if I start hiking and things start hurting I would stop for sure. I'm not one of those guys to push my self over my limit for no reason. Lol.

[Bender711]

I have been wearing mine daily as normal walking around shoes with out much trouble with my feet, but I still cant run more than about a mile in them. Well, can't run more than a mile on concrete with them, woods and sand is just fine.

[jeepsrjason]

howdy

i bought my KSOs while on R&R in hawaii last september. i just thought theyd be wierd/ neat water shoes. i did a little research when i got back to afghanistan and discovered this whole barefoot running thing. well i finally got around to it. i just ran 5k today. my calves are killing me!

i think im gonna get the bikila ls and keep the kso as a water shoe!

jason

[gravediggerfour]

howdy

i bought my KSOs while on R&R in hawaii last september. i just thought theyd be wierd/ neat water shoes. i did a little research when i got back to afghanistan and discovered this whole barefoot running thing. well i finally got around to it. i just ran 5k today. my calves are killing me!

i think im gonna get the bikila ls and keep the kso as a water shoe!

jason

wait till tomorrow!

[Manliest]

What is the stigma/deal about Dual Survival? I've never watched, but I see an awful lot of shit talked about the show online.

Also, Crocs don't make your feet smell. I wear them all the time when I work around the pool (protecting my KSOs from the pool chemicals and kid piss), and they don't stink at all.

[Civilian Scout]

howdy

i bought my KSOs while on R&R in hawaii last september. i just thought theyd be wierd/ neat water shoes. i did a little research when i got back to afghanistan and discovered this whole barefoot running thing. well i finally got around to it. i just ran 5k today. my calves are killing me!

i think im gonna get the bikila ls and keep the kso as a water shoe!

jason

wait till tomorrow!

Yes indeed!

I still get a little ache in my calves now and then, especially after a long trail run. I have found these to be fan-damn-tastic for recovery. They're so lightweight and comfortable I can wear them under my pants at work, and they really do wonders for that calf pain.

http://www.zensah.com/compression-leg-sleeves.html

[Artiz]

What is the stigma/deal about Dual Survival? I've never watched, but I see an awful lot of shit talked about the show online.

Also, Crocs don't make your feet smell. I wear them all the time when I work around the pool (protecting my KSOs from the pool chemicals and kid piss), and they don't stink at all.

It's a good show, showing good and useful stuff. That awful lot of shit on the Internet is talked by little pieces of shit that have probably never been in the wilderness for more than 24h. Oh, and they probably live in their parent's house.

[praharin]

What is the stigma/deal about Dual Survival? I've never watched, but I see an awful lot of shit talked about the show online.

Also, Crocs don't make your feet smell. I wear them all the time when I work around the pool (protecting my KSOs from the pool chemicals and kid piss), and they don't stink at all.

It's a good show, showing good and useful stuff. That awful lot of shit on the Internet is talked by little pieces of shit that have probably never been in the wilderness for more than 24h. Oh, and they probably live in their parent's house.

Yep, lots of GRRrrRREAT stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LFGE7rGUkA

Maybe you should lay off of the backhanded insults directed at me and/or other forum members.


Pool chemicals probably help the foot odor problem

[gravediggerfour]

What is the stigma/deal about Dual Survival? I've never watched, but I see an awful lot of shit talked about the show online.

Also, Crocs don't make your feet smell. I wear them all the time when I work around the pool (protecting my KSOs from the pool chemicals and kid piss), and they don't stink at all.

It's a good show, showing good and useful stuff. That awful lot of shit on the Internet is talked by little pieces of shit that have probably never been in the wilderness for more than 24h. Oh, and they probably live in their parent's house.

Yep, lots of GRRrrRREAT stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LFGE7rGUkA

[Biggin]

What is the stigma/deal about Dual Survival? I've never watched, but I see an awful lot of shit talked about the show online.

Also, Crocs don't make your feet smell. I wear them all the time when I work around the pool (protecting my KSOs from the pool chemicals and kid piss), and they don't stink at all.

It's a good show, showing good and useful stuff. That awful lot of shit on the Internet is talked by little pieces of shit that have probably never been in the wilderness for more than 24h. Oh, and they probably live in their parent's house.

Yep, lots of GRRrrRREAT stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LFGE7rGUkA

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!

On topic: I will be bringing my VFFs to Zcon this year. I'm sure they will serve me well

[Bender711]

I had a wound on my neck cauterized, hurts like fuck and not something I would ever dream of doing outside a doctors office/hospital.

EDIT: that seems far too level headed a reaction to what I just saw. How about OMGWTFBBQ?!!!?!?!?! I can not believe someone actually did that.

[praharin]

And, now that a little time has elapsed, I'll just fill in the blanks of my personal problem with thatshit. In no particular order...

1: He intentionally cut himself.

2: It was in a Clint Eastwood (IIRC) movie

3: They sterilized the knife, but what about anything that happens to be on the gunpowder?

4: It was in a damn movie!!!!!

5: People take this show seriously (as has already been brought up in this thread) and might try it if they find themselves in the situation.

6: IME, wet black powder does NOT burn. Therefore, there is UNBURNT BLACK POWDER inside that wound.

7: Instead of a fairly deep cut, that could be fixed with some direct pressure and a fairly right dressing, now he has a bigger, deeper full thickness burn that would probably end up infected if that were a real survival situation.


Prior to this happening, I has some level professional respect for both Dave and Cody. I highly doubt it was either of their ideas to pull this stunt, but they DID agree to do it.

[KnifeStyle]

Wore my KSOs around an abandoned college town to get a feel for them before running in them. So weird feeling rocks and sidewalk cracks under my soles...Woke up feeling like my feet overdid it on the ab machine, this is going to be interesting as time goes on. Dare me to go clubbing in these to measure the space bubble I receive from the opposite sex.

[Manliest]

Point taken on that show.

Some red KSOs or Sprints should get you MORE attention, not less. Women love them.

[Mr. Bob]

I wear mine to bars and clublike bars all the time. I gives a fuck what other people think about them.