Fallout: New Vegas

[Molon Labe]

Moria was a fav of mine as well. She was so endearingly annoying. You couldnt help but like her even when you wanted to ring her neck. I went through the whole game hoping to get a human version of her whack a mole stick

Am i the only one sad that you never did get to hook up with anata the overseer's daughter? I was crushed when I was rejected the second time ..... sadness.

Amata was an idiot. Like her father.

"Thankyou for bringing peace back to the vault. My Father never should have chased you out into the wasteland. Now leave. No I mean it. I'm kicking you out. No, I am not a tool like my father. I'm chasing you out for completely different reasons, even though without you we would be lost. Now if you don't mind, I have some paint chips that need eating."

[Rev]

Amata made the right choice. If your presence would have further destabilized the vault or would hamper reconstruction the logical choice is to send you back out into the Wasteland. When you’re a leader you must make choices that don't coincide with your personal wants and needs. It was an acceptable decision and coincided with the normal theme of self sacrifice in the Fallout Universe.

[Fletch]

I think in the original fallout the character is sent to retrieve a part that makes the water systems work.... anyway, after saving the vault the character is banished for being 'contaminated' by the outside world, Amata's decision, whilst being harsh was true to the story. (however whats to stop her letting you back in for the occasional bit of nookie?!? )

[Molon Labe]

Amata made the right choice. If your presence would have further destabilized the vault or would hamper reconstruction the logical choice is to send you back out into the Wasteland. When you’re a leader you must make choices that don't coincide with your personal wants and needs. It was an acceptable decision and coincided with the normal theme of self sacrifice in the Fallout Universe.

I'm sure her father was telling himself the same thing when he killed Jonas and was hunting you down.

[Rev]

It's not like his exile is a death sentence for him. Obviously the Lone Wanderer was perfectly capable of surviving the Waste. I'd also not compare Amatas decision to what her father had done but whatever.

[Krustofski]

I'm sure her father was telling himself the same thing when he killed Jonas and was hunting you down.

Why yes, probably. The only difference is that his actions were based on faulty logic and rampant paranoia, while Amata acted pretty rational. That doesn't grant her moral superiority or anything, it is just what it is.
Plus, like Fletch pointed out, it's true to the Fallout motif. The Fallout 1 hero gets expelled as well and SPOILER!!!if you have the "bloddy mess" perk, he totally blasts the overseer's ass into bits with a 10mm for this treachery.

EDIT: Amata, not Amanda

[Molon Labe]

What I'm saying is that it may have been for differing reasons, but they both were equally stupid. The Lone Wanderer represented everything the vault dwellers needed to be (atleast in my play thru as a good guy.) He was everything they needed period. But Amata decided that the idiots that couldn't admit they were wrong were worth more as useless tool bags than a Homecoming hero. She was a tool and I felt nothing when I left for the second and final time.

[docdredd]

While I think that her logic was faulty I must say that I was saddened that It ended that way even if it had to be done. Like a man putting down a dog that had gone rabid.

I am getting ready to go get hosed on trade ins at game stop . I didnt get to go the other day to much to do but Im going to see what they will give me for

Just cause 2
borderlands
red dead redemption

There profit margins on used games is horrendous. They will buy back a "New" used game for 20 bucks (if your lucky) then turn around and sell it for 54$ ..... The sad part is that I know this and still do it....

[Fletch]

^^ trading in games is a fool's game, but I'm a fool too

[Werespaz]

While I think that her logic was faulty I must say that I was saddened that It ended that way even if it had to be done. Like a man putting down a dog that had gone rabid.

I am getting ready to go get hosed on trade ins at game stop . I didnt get to go the other day to much to do but Im going to see what they will give me for

Just cause 2
borderlands
red dead redemption

There profit margins on used games is horrendous. They will buy back a "New" used game for 20 bucks (if your lucky) then turn around and sell it for 54$ ..... The sad part is that I know this and still do it....

See what they want for Just Cause 2 & Red Dead and then come back and sell them to me for $5 more.

[docdredd]

Sorry man just got back and saw your post. I ended up getting 60 bucks for the three games.... But I had finished them all and the replay value wasnt there for me (besides Red Dead). So that puts me paid off at game stop. They are having a midnight launch here so Ill be there like an idiot waiting for my game.

[Werespaz]

Sorry man just got back and saw your post. I ended up getting 60 bucks for the three games.... But I had finished them all and the replay value wasnt there for me (besides Red Dead). So that puts me paid off at game stop. They are having a midnight launch here so Ill be there like an idiot waiting for my game.

I make a point not to shop at gamestop unless I have no other choice (and I always have a choice). I wouldn't be able to play at midnight launch anyway, so I just get the Amazon day-of delivery. It's always waiting for me when I get home.

[docdredd]

See I normally order from a small locally owned game store up the road from me, but I went in there a few weeks ago to have him preorder it for me and was told that he no longer did preorders for people. He said that he had gotten burned by people not picking stuff up and that he would just order several and it would be first come first serve. As much as I hate getting stuff from a big box store I wanted to make sure that I got it. I have the 19 , 20 and the 21st off and I am going to attempt to utilize every hour i can.

[Werespaz]

See I normally order from a small locally owned game store up the road from me, but I went in there a few weeks ago to have him preorder it for me and was told that he no longer did preorders for people. He said that he had gotten burned by people not picking stuff up and that he would just order several and it would be first come first serve. As much as I hate getting stuff from a big box store I wanted to make sure that I got it. I have the 19 , 20 and the 21st off and I am going to attempt to utilize every hour i can.

Yeah, if it's the only viable way to get it, then I got no problem. We don't even have a local mom & pop game store around here, it's either gamestop or Walmart (or the internet).

Went into a gamestop the other day and the guy had a totally canned conversation with me:
"Soooo, what games are you looking forward to?"
"Fallout Vegas."
"Well, y'know, you should reserve it that way you know you get a copy."
"Uh, I already did, through a different store."
"Oh.... Well, are there any other games you're looking forward to?"
"Nope, hey, I'm gonna go, have a great day!"

[docdredd]

I wonder how they are going to handle the availability of weapon mods? Are the scopes, bolts and such going to be found as loot or are they all going to be purchased? Also are you going to have to have a min repair skill to make them work? How about repair a tricked out gun. Say I have a hunting rifle with a scope, bolt and suppressor installed, Am I going to be able to repair them with a stock hunting rifle or am i going to have to find weapons that have the same components that mine do. Also say I find a raider with a scoped hunting rifle. After killing him can I take the scope off his and put it on mine that has the updated bolt......... So many questions......... aghhhhhh. I looked for the game guide at gamestop but they didnt have any out. My local shop messed up big time when oblivion came out. A week before the game was allowed to be sold they had the strategy guide out. I bought it and left the store. When i cam back later they had pulled all the copies off the shelves..... Hope no one got in trouble.

[Molon Labe]

There's gonna be repair kits for weapons now, so now you can repair a weapon with a copy of it or use a repair kit. You can also repair a weapon to 100% even without having your repair skill jacked. It just takes more kits to do so. There's also a buffer zone when it comes to weapon condition. As long as you keep "maintaining" your weapon, you won't have to repair it as often. I'm not sure about looting a scoped rifle off of a raider, but I think it's safe to say that once it's in place it's fixed in place. Then again I'm jut speculating. Didn't think of that question when I was speaking with one of the devs. Just have to find out for our selves.

[docdredd]

* T minus 13 days 4 hours 38 minutes 52 seconds until Fallout: New Vegas is released in North America.
* T minus 15 days 23 hours 38 minutes 52 seconds until Fallout: New Vegas is released in Europe.
* T minus 28 days 14 hours 38 minutes 52 seconds until Fallout: New Vegas is released in Japan.

[docdredd]

Molon
Where are you getting all this info from? You said several times that you talked to a DEV. Is there a forum or website you go to or are you some kind of secret squirrel in the gaming industries?

[Molon Labe]

Molon
Where are you getting all this info from? You said several times that you talked to a DEV. Is there a forum or website you go to or are you some kind of secret squirrel in the gaming industries?

I just visit the same sites and forums as a lot of gaming insiders and developers. If you want, you can try the Bethesda forums and see if you can get lucky. J.E. Sawyer (the project lead behind New Vegas) frequents that site pretty often.

[TafkanX]

This is driving me crazy. I need to get my Fallout on.

[mk_ultra]

This is driving me crazy. I need to get my Fallout on.

No doubt . They just put up a new Vegas billboard a block from where I work , and I see it every night .

[Werespaz]

This is driving me crazy. I need to get my Fallout on.

Ditto. I've been torturing myself all day by looking up whatever info I can find about the gameplay. So much for "media blackout until release day" like I usually do with this kind of stuff.

[TafkanX]

Ditto. I've been torturing myself all day by looking up whatever info I can find about the gameplay. So much for "media blackout until release day" like I usually do with this kind of stuff.

I tried. I generally set a policy of expecting a game/movie/novel/whatever to disappoint me in the hopes that I will be pleasantly surprised. I try to be especially firm about this when it has the potential to break my heart if it flops. Fallout falls under this category. I've been around since the first one and was delighted when Fallout 3 came out after what was essentially a decade-long hiatus.

The fact that Obsidian is handling New Vegas fills me with a mixture of hope and trepidation. The founders may have been involved in some of my most memorable gaming experiences (Fallout 1 and 2 under Black Isle, Arcanum under Troika Games), but under the banner of Obsidian they have been responsible for some my biggest gaming disappointments. KOTOR 2, while for the most part an entertaining game, just sort of unraveled in the final quarter of the game and had the single-handed most unsatisfying game ending I've ever seen. Alpha Protocol, while brilliant in some aspects, felt roughshod and unpolished and was accompanied by graphics that would have been lackluster a year prior to release.

Well, after peeking at the occasional article or sneak peak and talking it over with people and finally breaking down and digging around the internets for related media, I have succumbed to the hype and am rabidly and unabashedly foaming at the mouth over this game. I swear if Obsidian fumbles this I will write them off forever.

@mk_ultra: That sucks, man. It's hard enough trying not to think about it as is, that's gotta be obnoxious as hell. If it's any consolation you have a sweet M1 carbine.

[docdredd]

New Dev diary going over factions.
http://www.avault.com/news/factions-vegas/