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Postby LD! » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:06 am

I was thinking about it in the paw you wont be able to make a lot ofthing the sam e without a lot of effort. But coins will be everywhere. I was thinkign of disgining a machine that non chemically and non electricly powe that will luanch cion or other somewhat useless thing that will be comon and be all the same size. To late for me to thing up something will try for that tommorow.
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Postby zXzGrifterzXz » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:35 am

LD!, I have no idea what you just said. Please for all that is holy, Use Spell Check.
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Postby TANK Ex Mortis » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:15 am

zXzGrifterzXz wrote:LD!, I have no idea what you just said. Please for all that is holy, Use Spell Check.

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Postby Absit » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:08 am

It can't work.
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Postby Orson » Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:19 am

He wants to make a device that launches coins such as quarters and stuff through the air, hitting unsuspecting zombies
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Postby zXzGrifterzXz » Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:53 am

Orson wrote:He wants to make a device that launches coins such as quarters and stuff through the air, hitting unsuspecting zombies


I remember the “Myth Busters” had an episode where they made a “Penny Gun”. If I am not mistaken I believe they stated that a penny’s terminal velocity is not high enough to make it into a deadly projectile.

As for a quarter………..they do have a bit more mass…………….

Hmmmmmm..............

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Postby bgaesop » Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:09 pm

zXzGrifterzXz wrote:I remember the “Myth Busters” had an episode where they made a “Penny Gun”. If I am not mistaken I believe they stated that a penny’s terminal velocity is not high enough to make it into a deadly projectile.


What does terminal velocity have to do with anything? That's only useful if you're dropping it in atmosphere, not propelling it. I bet a bullet's terminal velocity is way lower than the bullet's speed coming out of the gun.
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Postby CLEAR CUT » Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:14 pm

If memory serves me, I think the MythBusters used a modified pneumatic nailgun to fire the penny. I think this is the way to go.

You'll need a generator to power a compressor some PVC Pipe and some compression fittings. I think it could work. As far as being lethal, I'm not so sure.
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Postby Absit » Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:26 pm

He wants to do it without using electricty or chemicals, it's not possible to make something out of nothing, that's physics for ya.
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Postby LD! » Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:43 pm

Absit wrote:He wants to do it without using electricty or chemicals, it's not possible to make something out of nothing, that's physics for ya.


Chemical as in explosives and electricity is fine I guess see as this group where most likely be prepared anough,

Thats are thngs like springs and earth magnets.
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Postby Absit » Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:52 pm

Not nearly strong enough.
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Postby ednemo » Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:55 pm

Hmmm...given enough mass and a strong enough spring you could launch a projectile that would hurt or kill. If a penny were sharpened fine enough and fired with enough force you could slice through the head of something. Water pressure, steam, air pressure and restrained force are all possibilities to use. However, gunpowder being fairly easy to make and coins beng fairly easy to melt down, why not just create a more conventional firearm? Now an arbelist, (too lazy to look up how to spell a huge crossbow), would definitely work as a nice weapon. Mass and forced retention could definitely be worthwhile, but unless you were going to melt pennies down and make a larger massed projectile, it probably wouldn't work too well.
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Postby Absit » Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:58 pm

To get the proper pressures out of what you suggested you'd need more equipment than you could carry around.
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Postby ednemo » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:14 pm

I'm not saying that it is a good idea, merely possible. A gun that ran off steam could only be powered by controlled fission. Load it up with water and release. Of course there is a chance of irradiating yourself, but we are still being hypothetical. My recommendation would be to set up operations near a bat cave and collect the salt crystals found under the guano...then, well...you guys know where I'm going with this...

In a PAW situation, a bow or crossbow would eventually be your best friend until you could set yourself up for making guns. Blackpowder guns of course. However, everyone here should probably learn how to be at least a passable fletcher.
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Postby LD! » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:26 pm

Absit wrote:To get the proper pressures out of what you suggested you'd need more equipment than you could carry around.


Theres always base/stationary defenses
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Postby Absit » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:36 pm

I suppose, but even then we're looking at maybe one shot. It's just not really a good option.
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Postby Orson » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:37 pm

LD! wrote:
Absit wrote:To get the proper pressures out of what you suggested you'd need more equipment than you could carry around.


Theres always base/stationary defenses

maybe the gauss rifle topic would be more up your alley
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Postby LD! » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:42 pm

Orson wrote:
LD! wrote:
Absit wrote:To get the proper pressures out of what you suggested you'd need more equipment than you could carry around.


Theres always base/stationary defenses

maybe the gauss rifle topic would be more up your alley


That more to one extreme end of the subject though
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Re: Coin Gun

Postby Gundown » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:19 pm

LD! wrote:I was thinking about it in the paw you wont be able to make a lot ofthing the sam e without a lot of effort. But coins will be everywhere. I was thinkign of disgining a machine that non chemically and non electricly powe that will luanch cion or other somewhat useless thing that will be comon and be all the same size. To late for me to thing up something will try for that tommorow.



You mean a sling shot?
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Re: Coin Gun

Postby LD! » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:28 pm

GunDown wrote:
LD! wrote:I was thinking about it in the paw you wont be able to make a lot ofthing the sam e without a lot of effort. But coins will be everywhere. I was thinkign of disgining a machine that non chemically and non electricly powe that will luanch cion or other somewhat useless thing that will be comon and be all the same size. To late for me to thing up something will try for that tommorow.



You mean a sling shot?


Thats one solution
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Postby Foxen » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:04 am

Watch out with white PVC piping...if you're going to use it. I think it's rated at 200psi or 400psi...forgot, but I remember at one paintball event where one of the mortars blew up. Several people were hit with shrapnel, and the main scenario organizer went into shock...fortunately, he lived. Needless to say, after that, I decided that if I tried making a paintball mortar/grenade launcher, I'd consider copper tubing versus PVC pipe.

(that being said, most of those launchers use plastic valves for the air exchange...hmmm).

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Postby CLEAR CUT » Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:05 pm

Definitely. I merely suggested it because it's easy to work with. You don't need a lot of tools(hacksaw and some adhesive, maybe add a drill). Also, depending on the area(building code) may be found right in abandoned homes waiting harvest. Any kind of metal pipe is going to be way more difficult to work with for the average individual.

That's a good point about the danger though. There is always an added danger factor when using something that's been jerry-rigged. One should always seek to minimize potential problems when trying to implement a plan like this. And for Fuck's Sake-Please wear your safety glasses/goggles both in building as well as testing your contraption. Testing is also best done from a distance too if at all possible to decrease the chances of injury.
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Postby zXzGrifterzXz » Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:46 pm

This is still tame but I want to just point out that we frown upon the posting of “step by step” instructions for making illegal makeshift firearms. No one here has crossed that line yet but I just want to make sure we all remember that younger eyes see the words we type.
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Postby MCJ » Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:48 pm

At a Bank:

"Uhh, I'd like to trade this hundred for some ammo...I mean, quarters."
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