My Bladder and Water

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My Bladder and Water

Post by jeffrey » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:13 pm

No, not that bladder, these bladders!

MSR Hydromedary 2.5L and Dromedary 4L
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The Hydromedary has a straw/tube/hose/whatever attached and two grommets for hanging in most packs. It is covered in red, 200D nylon and the inside is coated in food grade polyurethane. It has a bite valve at the end of the straw that also includes an on/off valve. I would have gone with the 3L but they didn't have one at the store. I've seen some iffy reviews of MSR bladders, especially the Cloudliner series but I figured, what the hey, I'll give it 'em a shot. I filled it and put it in my pack and it seems to work flawlessly. Someone will chime in and say why not just get a Camelbak Omega. Well, nylon is tacticool, I like the screw on lid, and this will connect to the MSR filter with no adapters or tooling around.

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The Dromedary series are a bit larger and their intended use is to fill at camp to provide a reservoir of sorts. If bugging out I would probably fill it first but I don't really plan to carry both filled for normal backpacking or camping. It will probably get stuffed in the pack empty. It has a similar screw on cap that includes a flip up spout for pouring.

As I mentioned, both of these bladders will directly attach to the MSR water filters such as the MiniWorks EX and the Hyperflow. I am probably going to get the Hyperflow. I have heard indirectly from MSR customer reps that the Hyperflow filter element will last nearly indefinitely so long as you back flush the filter often. The MiniWorks requires scrubbing, is twice as big, and filters at 1/3 the rate (1L per min versus 3L per min on the Hyperflow).

When funds allow, I will eventually accquire a Steripen or another device to purify. For now, I have the standard iodine and vitamin C tablets. I apologize for the less than stellar pictures. I know this is nothing special but I am rather proud of myself for buying gear that holds water. Guns, ammo, and flashlights kick ass but water is so much more important and so often overlooked.
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Re: My Bladder and Water

Post by ImmaMedic » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:15 pm

Those look really nice. I believe I might have to pick one up.

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Post by Y.T. » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:17 pm

thanks so much for the pics and info. :)
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Re: My Bladder and Water

Post by Murph » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:16 pm

You never mentioned how much they cost... I'm not sure I want to know either. :wink: The look expensive.
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Post by Y.T. » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:20 pm

Murph wrote:You never mentioned how much they cost... I'm not sure I want to know either. :wink: The look expensive.
Click the links (the names). :) They're not expensive.
Dromedary: a 10L is $40, a 2L was $30.
Hydromedary: a 3L is $37, a 2L is $33
That seems about average for some of the bladders I've seen.

There's also a review of the Dromedary in this older thread: http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopi ... 14&t=15355" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by crypto » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:12 pm

I've got the giant MSR Dromeday bladder and I adore it. It always goes camping with me. It's totally bombproof.
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Re: My Bladder and Water

Post by Darxus » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:00 pm

Thanks for this post. Largely because of it, I just picked up the 3L hydromedary and 10L dromedary. And the MSR Hyperflow to go with them. Now to see about actually putting them to use.
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Re: My Bladder and Water

Post by Bad Penny 08 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:58 pm

I have tons of MSR stuff including their 10L Drom bag, EX filter, Pocket Rocket stove, etc.

They make great stuff. You can't go wrong.

One thing the Ex pump and sweetwater line has over the other Katadyn filters i have is that it is much easier to pump and the sweetwater brand drops are much easier to use than purification tablets.

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Re: My Bladder and Water

Post by wpick » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:28 pm

Hello

With all due respect, the Dromadarys I've had has always leaked. I've been using Platypus exclusively with no problems. They are lighter and just as tough.

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Post by Dawgboy » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:38 pm

I had a dromedary many years ago and it started leaking at the mouth. I tried to get it to stop, but no luck... So I took it back to REI and they gave me a new one. It's a good product and the manufacturer always stands behind the product.
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Post by Bad Penny 08 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:24 pm

wpick wrote:Hello

With all due respect, the Dromadarys I've had has always leaked. I've been using Platypus exclusively with no problems. They are lighter and just as tough.

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Bummer.

MSR and Platypus (as well as Therma-a-rest and others) are part of the same company.

I have several Platys also.
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Post by rhunter1 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:54 pm

I have a 3L and 10L Dromedary as well. I bought the hose adapter kit for the 3L, and also bought the spigot. Rarely use the hose adapter kit because I just don't feel comfortable with it in my pack, upside down, with 2 threaded closures just waiting to come lose. The spigot on the other hand is great. For basecamping with 2-4 people I keep the 3L and 10L hung from a branch and use the spigot on the 10L. Makes filling water bottles and other around camp activities much easier. You don't have to wait for the slow default trickle rate or the deal with the "Oh this is a nice rate of water flow. Ok I'm done now OH SHIT WATER IS GOING EVERYWHERE WHILE I TRY TO TWIST THE CAP BACK ON" scenario :)

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Post by Bad Penny 08 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:03 pm

Dawgboy wrote:I had a dromedary many years ago and it started leaking at the mouth. I tried to get it to stop, but no luck... So I took it back to REI and they gave me a new one. It's a good product and the manufacturer always stands behind the product.
The packaging on the Drom bags isn't very substantial. Just a folded over piece of cardboard.

I often see open packaging at REI (and sportco here in WA) and other stores.

It wouldn't surprise me if 100 people had treated it like a display model and it was closed up to look new before you got it.

I suspect this may be the cause of some of the problems above.
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Re: My Bladder and Water

Post by 1200RT-P » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:18 pm

Bad Penny 08 wrote:
wpick wrote:Hello

With all due respect, the Dromadarys I've had has always leaked. I've been using Platypus exclusively with no problems. They are lighter and just as tough.

Walter
Bummer.

MSR and Platypus (as well as Therma-a-rest and others) are part of the same company.

I have several Platys also.
oh? interesting.. what is the parent company?

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Re: My Bladder and Water

Post by Defeater » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:29 pm

1200RT-P wrote:
Bad Penny 08 wrote:
wpick wrote:Hello

With all due respect, the Dromadarys I've had has always leaked. I've been using Platypus exclusively with no problems. They are lighter and just as tough.

Walter
Bummer.

MSR and Platypus (as well as Therma-a-rest and others) are part of the same company.

I have several Platys also.
oh? interesting.. what is the parent company?
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Re: My Bladder and Water

Post by 1200RT-P » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:11 am

Defeater wrote:
1200RT-P wrote:
Bad Penny 08 wrote:
wpick wrote:Hello

With all due respect, the Dromadarys I've had has always leaked. I've been using Platypus exclusively with no problems. They are lighter and just as tough.

Walter
Bummer.

MSR and Platypus (as well as Therma-a-rest and others) are part of the same company.

I have several Platys also.
oh? interesting.. what is the parent company?

Cascade Designs, a Seattle-based company. They are MSR, Therm-A-Rest, Platypus, Seal Line (waterproof bags and the like), and Tracks (hiking poles etc.).

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Re: My Bladder and Water

Post by killjoy » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:56 pm

hey guys, i've been on here for a while but dont post much...

These MSR's are really a good product and all, but if your lookin for something cheaper Nalgene makes something similar.
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they're cheaper, and really durable (i have the 96 oz.) they come in three different sizes...

just thought i'd throw that in there :D
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Re: My Bladder and Water

Post by Jungfrau » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:31 pm

I have an old blue MSR Dromedary, I would estimate it is 4 liters but I am not sure. It has yet to fail me and has scene a fair bit of use. I also have a Platypus bottle from when they were new that does not get much use at all but it does work. I just find the MSR to be more durable and weight is not a huge deal at 6.9oz for 4L. I am actually thinking about buying another couple Dromedary bags in the 6L & 10L. Now the Softbottle by Platypus is rather attractive at less than 1oz for 1L container for limited spaces. When I need a bladder I use Camelbak and I love them. I have yet to have a problem and have probably been using them for about 10ish years now. In fact I am about to buy another Camelbak system.

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