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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:40 am 
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So, I found a Craigslist ad for a guy who wanted to trade a 1964 Jeep Gladiator for a tractor.

Its been snowy in St. Louis for a while, and was still feeling bitter about my car having been stopped dead in its tracks by a 4" tall mound of snow left by a plow, and I had resolved to take steps to resolve that situation.

I drove about 50 miles out to Warrenton, MO, and found this beast of a Gladiator. Here's what's in it:

AMC360 motor
Holley carb
Turbo400 automatic 3-speed
new headers
full-time t-case
manual hub lockers
33" Yokohama Geolanders
4" lift.

Here's whats not in it:
door locks
interior door panels
working wipers
working speedo
heat
horn
blinkers
seatbelts
passenger seat mounting bolts
brakes that actually work well

I dont care, this is one of the better looking 45-yo truck bodies I've seen, and I vowed to make it beautiful.
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Like I said, he wanted to trade a tractor for the truck, but since I didnt have a tractor to trade, I offered him two grand, which he decided was as good as a tractor.


We left warrenton around dusk, me driving The Brick, and B3 as chase vehicle. about 60 or so miles back to our place. The brakes are soft as hell, so I was super stressed about not dying on I-70 or I-64. The steering is pretty loose, with a lot of slop. So, ditto.

Well, as we went through Ladue on 64, I heard a loud BANG from under the hood, followed by a lot of electrical smoke in the cab. B3 reported a yellow flash and short cloud of smoke. all my lights went out, headlights, taillights, everything. The engine was still running, but Ive got a cab full of acrid smoke, soft brakes, and no shoulder.

Fuck it, drive on.

I rolled down the window to vent the smoke (the window crank had no handle at the end of the arm, so that was super awesome), and after about 15 seconds (or 4 hours, I'm not sure which) the headlights came back on, and the truck was driving just like before.

I pulled off 64 at McKnight, and drove it another 3-4 miles to a friends auto shop, where we left it. After popping the hood with the engine running and looking around, (it was dark and cold, I didnt see anything) I shut it down, then immediately tried to restart it. The (brand new) battery was low, and wouldnt turn the motor over.

I'm thinking I can now add "grenaded generator/alternator" to my list of things to fix, but I'm not sure. I'm going to let Tom's dad at the shop take a look at it and give me an estimate on the brakes and the electrical problem.

This is the first post of my project page. Right now this Jeep is pretty rough, its going to need lots of love and work to make it awesome. But, a man needs a truck. Specially a righteous and bombproof one like an old Gladiator.


I'll keep the thread updated as it progresses.


My short-term plan is to make it safe enough that I don't have to look my wife in the eye and tell her I love her before getting in it.
Medium term plans are to get it to pass inspection.
Long term plans are to get the bodywork finished, I'm thinking a satin gunmetal grey with black ZS paint, including the logo on the door.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:11 am 
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Not a truck person but... Thats freakin' sweet!


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Very nice!

And as a semi mechanically inclined person, I'd be happy to lend a hand since you live in the area

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:39 am 
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DUDE!!!! SA-WEET!!!!

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Win, sir...Win.

As a "Jeep guy," that truck is awesome. I've wanted a Gladiator/J-truck for quite a while. Nice find.


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Tha looks like a promissing project. 8)

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Gladiators are one of the few jeeps I like, you lucky dog.

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Very nice!

I is jealous panda. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:37 am 
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ok sir, I am damn jealous!


the brakes are probably due to the rubber parts of the brake lines ballooning as you apply the brakes.

generator/alternator... well its 45 years old...

steering can be tightened up a bit by tightening the crush bolt on the steering box its self.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:50 am 
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nice score!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:18 pm 
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Those Jeep Gladiators are pretty tough looking, I like it! :D

It looks like it's in pretty good shape for it's age too. Even though you have a lot of work to do on it, at least it runs.

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My great uncle has one in a barn out in Severy, KS. Always wanted it.

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Very nice.


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hmmm that thing would be wicked with a 12 valve cummins/NV5600 trans swap...... mmmmm ok sorry i was day dreaming again

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Oh, I can picture a beautiful ZS stamped on it! :mrgreen:

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It was a hell of a ride home, that's for sure.

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I hate you in such a good way. That thing is a beast.

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Aint nothing on there you cant fix, that's why old trucks rule! Heater might take a little wrangling to get up and running 100%, depending on what's wrong/missing.

Tom Sr. will get you fixed up for sure.

Come on over when you want and get your free ZS tailgate stamp... :mrgreen:

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It's glorious, ugly in all the right ways.

Looking forward to your build....

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Congrats on the FSJ. It's an exclusive club!

All your answers are here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/index.php

Yup, you have not formed the questions yet... But you will. That thing was repowered as the 360 which I have in my 74 Waggy is a much later motor. My guess is the PO harvested all those parts from a Waggy. These beasts get under your skin...

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Congrats, I learned to drive in a Gladiator, have fun.

Incidentally I also learned most of what I know about fixing cars from the same Gladiator...


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Matsuo wrote:
Aint nothing on there you cant fix, that's why old trucks rule! Heater might take a little wrangling to get up and running 100%, depending on what's wrong/missing.

Tom Sr. will get you fixed up for sure.

Come on over when you want and get your free ZS tailgate stamp... :mrgreen:

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The heater is on the to-do list, its just that theres more serious problems. Theres currently a pair of vice grips on both heater core hoses, plus the heater core isnt connected to the blower housing. I figure that by the time I get to the heater core on my list of things to fix, the weather will be nice again.

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Congrats on the FSJ. It's an exclusive club!

All your answers are here: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/index.php

Yup, you have not formed the questions yet... But you will. That thing was repowered as the 360 which I have in my 74 Waggy is a much later motor. My guess is the PO harvested all those parts from a Waggy. These beasts get under your skin...


Yeah, the 360 didnt come out until 1972, I dont think. I was guessing he took them from a J-series truck, but your guess about them coming from a waggy might be a better bet.

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Very nice looking truck, well done.

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