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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:21 pm 
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ive been looking into getting a handhand pair. for person to person, back up on the boat and whatever else.

the problem is that i have no idea as to what the options are. ive read a bit but VHF, UHF, shortwave, ham, weather, morse code........ -------i must note that i am not looking for an explanation of these things, i will keep reading, but would like some advise on my option for a small, reliable, powerful handheld that could do as much as possible.

one i have looked at is, below, does anyone have any experience with these?

http://shop.murs-radio.com/Puxing-PX-77 ... 77PLUS.htm


thanks in advance!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:28 pm 
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STOP... Before looking for a radio or radio service you need to define your communication needs. Without that
your questions are meaningless.

How far do you need to talk, How often do you need to talk, Who do you need to talk to, A group or anyone on the air.
Are you look to a SHTF radio or one to use day/day?

What other needs do you have. Powerful means nothing. Almost every hand held is going to be in the 1-5 watt power range. Your actual distance the radio will talk hand held to hand held will not greatly increase going from 1 watt to 5watts, so dont think a 5watt radio will talk 5 times further than a 1 watt radio. Distance will help to define and eliminate radio services. If you need 1/2 mile then there are lots of option, if you need 10 miles there there are almost none. Somewhere in the middle is where the hand held fits.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:59 pm 
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well, i guess i could have used a better word than powerful.

range, i guess 3-5 miles would be a good range.

i doubt i would use it daily. more like hiking, sking. and yes shtf too.

i would mostly talk to my wife (with a paired unit) but if possible i would like to talk to others with different radios, groups. send morse code, maybe even a bat signal...not sure what my options are.

freqs, again i have no clue what the options are in this area either. unit to unit, vhf, uhf, etc. really i just have no idea.

hope this info helps narrow it down. i have some reseach to do, but im also looking forward to the guidance of you ugys who know better. -leave it to the experts.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:01 pm 
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Dude, as a lifelong ham, I am actually pointing you toward a good set of FRS radios. My family could stay in touch all over Heavenly ski area (Lake Tahoe) with no problem over a mongo ski area covering California and Nevada. There are lots of good ones available cheap.
If you want to reach out I'd suggest getting your Technician class ham radio license. You'll have great local vhf/uhf connectivity and as the bands improve during the increased sunspot activity you will be able to talk world wide on the 10 meter band.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:36 pm 
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ive thought about getting a ham certification, but dont think i would use it enough to have the set up. maybe i dont know enough about it.

so whats the difference between the FRS radios and these MURS?

http://shop.murs-radio.com/Puxing-PX-77 ... 77PLUS.htm


---the murs look like they can do a lot of stuff.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:29 am 
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Contrary to what the web site is selling the Puxing-PX-777 is not legal on MURS frequency.
Radio for MURS have to be built specific to MURS, 5 chanels, fix frequency. The puxing fits none of these.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:52 am 
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sorry for my lack of knowledge on this...again im hoping some of you are patient enough to kick me along,

but, MURS is an actual frequency? i thought it was just company that sold this puxing radio which could communicate with any radio, as long as it could tune in to the same freq range.

this is what short description is given on the Puxing handheld,

"A great all-in-one radio for use on 2 meter ham radio and for listening to MURS, local public safety and NOAA weather. Can be used to transmit and receive on any frequency for which you are licensed in the VHF band. Because this radio is flexible enough to transmit on numerous frequencies, the buyer assumes all responsibility for proper operation and licensing."

i thought this might be a small (powerful...in the sense i was looking for "flexible") i was looking for. would this radio be a bad choice? im not looking to tune in and start chatting with everyone but in a true emergency i would want to reach whoever i could.


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If the sales ad claims "Can be used to transmit and receive on any frequency for which you are licensed in the VHF band" then they are giving wrong information.

A radio must be FCC type accepted for the specific service it will be used in. You can't legally buy a 2m ham radio and modify it to transmit in the VHF marine band or MURS or anything else. Its a technical spec issue and radios must meet certain minimum specs.

A MURS radio is very specific with only 5 channels programmed with limited power and fairly narrow voice deviation on at least some of the channels. There are literally hundreds or more ham, commercial, police type radios that can easily be programmed to the MURS frequencies and will more than meet the technical specifications but they are not FCC type accepted for MURS service and cannot legally be used.

The Puxing radios may be type accepted for amateur and possibly some commercial services but not MURS. Amateur radio is a bit loose on type acceptance where you can design and build your own radio from scratch or import a single non type accepted radio for personal use or use mil surplus radios, etc. Amateur radio is a hobby and experimentation is encouraged where MURS, marine, business, etc is not.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:00 pm 
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thanks, that helps a lot.

-so, is the limited capabilities of the MURS a legal issue, or a technical issue?

are there any handhelds that cover a wide range of things?

i guess im going to have to do some reading. i dont think i have enough knowledge to even ask the right question. lol

thanks all.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:51 pm 
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I run a pair of TYT UVF1 radios. They are dual band, and Radio Guy is right, the radios have to be type certified to work on MURS. I use them for MURS and FRS. I just program them for low power to keep it more legal. I use them for keeping in touch with the family on FRS. I know it is not actually legal. I just can't see paying the extra for a standard FRS or GMRS radio. Good Luck.


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Has anyone here ever actually seen a legit MURS radio in real life?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:27 am 
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Its harder to find MURS radio than FRS, but they are out there.
Dakota Alert has a couple models.
Midland has a couple models.
One of the better is the Kenwood Tk2100
this is a commercial VHF radio, but was made just before the MURS
rules required dedicated MURS radios.
You can also use older commercial VHF radios, but only on 2 of the 5 MURS channels.


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The Puxing radio is not type accepted so by transmitting with it, you are in fact in violation....

If it ever needs repair you are never going to get it fixed


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Get your ham license. You won't be sorry.
buy a couple of FT60's from yaesu once you get your ham license.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:24 pm 
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nacho wrote:
Has anyone here ever actually seen a legit MURS radio in real life?


I have seen some old two channel two watt Motorola HT600s with MURS freqs in them. Do those count?


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