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As said before: This was just an experiment if the hole thing is working during a boring (only a few responses during twelve hours) shift on duty at the EMS. We only wanted to see if that can heater would work or not. All we had was the normal fuel which was extracted from one of our cars :D


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As said before: This was just an experiment if the hole thing is working during a boring (only a few responses during twelve hours) shift on duty at the EMS. We only wanted to see if that can heater would work or not. All we had was the normal fuel which was extracted from one of our cars :D


I really wouldn't use auto gas... really wouldn't.

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FUCK YES! :D I got my Crusader Cup yesterday and I've just eaten my second pack of noodles cooked in it with a "V" energy drink can stove. Thanks Biff, this rawks.

I found the I could do the whole lot with a pen, a pair of scissors and a drawing pin. Put the pen on something to mark the correct height, put the can in contact and turn the can, marking a circle around the can. Cut with scissors. Repeat. Discard tops of cans.

Bend in the top of one of the can bottoms several times, so it fits easily into the other can bottom, then push the two halves together. You're compressing the air trapped inside, so it's a bit of effort but you know your seal is tight. Use the drawing pin to make the holes, job done! To make it easier, bluetack your drawing pin onto a large coin, less pressure on your finger when you push it into the can.

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On mine, I followed the instructions for the zen stoves. I put a piece of cotton gauze in the can before sealing it.. "Zen" recommends using fiberglass insulation,, I didn't see either in your stove, why not ? if you would

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Ellie, have you used both kinds? I was always a little confused as to how the kind with a big ol hole in the middle was supposed to work without just having a lot of fire in the middle. Biff's style makes more sense to my brain.



The open style is actually a bit harder to make, as it is a double wall design.
But it is a LOT easier to fill and start.
In anything except very cold weather, you just pour the fuel in and light it... No need for the preheat, as it does that for you. In less than a minute, the center outer burners start up and the center flame goes out, and you have a very nice burn.


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Biff,

This is so cool I almost can't stand it!!!!! I'd almost purchased one of the Swedish mess kits (never even heard of the Crusader Cooker before) when I ran across your post. I'd been flirting with the idea of making a Pepsi can stove for the fun of it and now I can create a light and compact kit with the ability to burn a variety of fuels. Thank you!

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Thanks, I just made one (soda can version) yesterday. For some reason yours were the first instrutions that made sense to me.


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. . . and now I can create a light and compact kit with the ability to burn a variety of fuels.

Well, I don't know that a Crusader Cooker or a Swedish mess kit will ever be part of a "light" kit. But if you have a ti cup and a can stove you can fab up a simple wire pot stand, grab some HD aluminum foil to use as a wind screen, and fit everything in the ti cup. That would be very light indeed.
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If You put the jet holes on the side of the stove, You don't need
a pot stand. Just place the pot on the stove.

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If You put the jet holes on the side of the stove, You don't need
a pot stand. Just place the pot on the stove.

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You also dont need the double wall.


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Great post! This really makes the Crusader cook system a key piece of kit. Question about the design; Any benefit to filling the stove with a non-flammable absorbent material like fiberglass insulation fiber? I've read it doesn't impact performance but does make the stove safer so no fuel will dump out if the unit tips over.

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I was always under the impression that the fiberglass was a wicking material. That is clearly the purpose on trangia models. If you tip a trangia over the fuel will spill out. THe first popcan stove i made back in the early 90's called for it to be filled with perlite, which is like tiny beads of very lightweight volcanic glass popcorn. You get it at the garden section of whatever big box you're near. I don't know if it's really necessary though. I never did a side by side.

I suppose the typical two bottoms type popcan stove would spill less if filled with fiberglass or perlite...

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Thanks Biff,
Great post!

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I just made my first attempt with this. I used denatured alcohol as my fuel and when I lit it off, it blew the top can off, leaving me with a two small, invisible fires. I'm thinking my top can needs more jets. Any other tips?

I doubled the number of jets.

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Wow, talk about a zombie thread! This one's been resurrected three times! A recent article in Backwoodsman Magazine was about making one out of a Foster's Beer oilcan. Lots of heat, and it fits in a Sterno stove I had laying around. For comparison, I made a double-wall stove, and a standard pop-can stove fit inside it (No, I didn't light the one inside the other, that just seemed dangerous and my wife was on her way home.)


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Way to necro an AWESOME THREAD. I used two silver bullet cans to make one of these little stoves and it took no time at all, just followed Biff's instructions from page 1. Here are some pics:

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I got a can of denatured alcohol at Menard's. Outside it was as cold as the Rockies, about 19 D Farenheit. I left the fuel can on the porch for a few hours along with the stove. Then filled up the little stove, put a nickle over the center fill hole and filled the center above the nickle with fuel. I used a BBQ lighter to torch it off. It started very gently, not in the least explosive. It burned the center fuel nicely but it didn't get hot enough to heat the fuel in the can to set off the burners, I think due to the cold. I refilled the center again and it still did not get hot enough to start the stove fuel. The third fill above the nickle was the charm and the stove burned merrily. It was a bit windy out, so the flames got fanned up on occasion.

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It burned for 19 and a half minutes. The girls got some marshmallows out and we toasted several. There was no alcohol/methanol flavor to them at all. I'm really impressed by the little stove that is so easy to make, even I could do it. It is now in my get home bag, along with a small bottle of fuel. I''m going to work on a pot stand and wind screen next.

Thanks Biff!

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Another bump for a great thread on how to make a simple "penny" or "beverage can" stove that uses ethanol as fuel. I find the yellow gas line antifreeze ethanol works great. But don't use the red ones, it makes flames that are way too high.

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Well looks like this thread has risen again.... so I'll add my little stove to the mix. It isn't a pop or beer can stove instead I make mine out of a cat food can. works great!!! and primes in seconds its a lot faster then any of the pop can stoves I've made. I use denatured alcohol as many do.

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