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If that helps you sleep at night ;) :lol:

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It wasn't a fictional weapon at all, while it's accuracy and power were a little exaggerated it WAS a pneumatic speargun. Some spearguns are designed for taking large fish, underwater. Water is of course denser than air so if you think about it, if it can go 30'' accurately underwater and kill a three hundred pound fish what do you think it is capable of on land where the range would be greater due to less drag? Here are a few photos of spearguns very much like Cholo's. Also is an "aqua gun" it uses blank cartriges to propel the bolt, much more powerful but it must be taken apart to reload.

Here is one very much like the one in the movie...

http://shop.divebooty.com/1673.html

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A real bolt throwing gun used by the US and the British, several versions were made. The pistol is the Pll underwater gun made by H&K and can be seen at this link.

http://www.hkpro.com/peleven.htm

The Aquagun and UAW underwater rifle...

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UAW rifle...

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That's still not Cholo's "thing" though. I think you're like me. You're working too hard to justify the existence of that thing and give it some practical reason for existing.

I guess it does show however that the concept isn't fundamentally flawed, but I wonder where Cholo got replacement catridges from...

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......no, it WAS a speargun dude, I've used the damn things. They just exaggerated how powerful it was.

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I'll have to watch it again. The thing just looked like a piece of prop to me. The spearguns you're showing me look much more "finished" and they actually look functional for whatever "looking" is worth.

Just curious, since it actually does exist, do you pretty much have to use point shooting techniques with the things? Seems like there's no real way to aim them via traditional sights, etc.

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Exactly, with any weapon practice is key and it gets easier.

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whatevah, i'm buying the gun that the rock used in DOOM, it ownz all!

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I HEART spearguns. Almost as much as I HEART fishsticks...mmm, fishsticks.


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Ive always wanted to go spear gun fishing... and scuba diving... seems kinda expensive though.

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whatevah, i'm buying the gun that the rock used in DOOM, it ownz all!


Please, if you look at the serial number, it was something like BFG 2.3 something or other.

That it soooooooooooooooo the outdated model

Acording to Quake 3 Arena the BFG 10k can fire around 200 RPM yet still carry the same devestating effects.

And since Quake 4 is now out, the BFG is probably welllllll past that :wink:

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God help me for getting into this conversation but the ammo in the gun was simply aluminum arrow shafts without the fletchings attached. Yes, it was a neat weapon in the movie but I would much prefer a traditional firearm given the choice of weapons the characters had in the film. I also envied their apparently unending supply of ammunition since the tower sentries seemed to lack fire discipline when taking down zombies that wandered too close to the wire.


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I'm with you on that one, he told the girl to take his face off.....not give the asphalt a new lead garden.

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Just throwing some gasoline on the fire...


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Damn! It is a spear gun! as a matter of fact it is the same type as the first picture olaf_yahoo posted. The Ccessi-sub SL star, just look at the barrel and the little hook underneath, I guess the reason it looks so trashy is that they had to make it look like it belonged in a PAW.
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:shock: ... by George I think he's right!

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So, who's going to be the first to coconut test the speargun?

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If mine weren't broken I would be honored :D I can tell you that it would have no problems penetrating. I was able to punch right through 1/4'' plywood from 15'' so it has power. The bigger ones have even more. You just have to get the feel of your speargun if/when you buy one. It is not the same as firing a firearm, you have to shoot it a different way. Mine was given to me when I was 10 (I have a cool aunt and uncle in FL) but I never used it till I was 16. I have no idea what model or who makes it but it is VERY similar to the one with the yellow handled photo I posted.

They are also a hell of a lot of fun to shoot, a lot more than a pistol crossbow! Those things break too easy, the strings come unwound and NO one makes good arrows or quarrels for them. You can get great speargun tips in different sizes and types from all over online and the shafts are MUCH better quality.

I think the one in the movie is this one...

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Well... considering your spear gun is broken, how much better is it really than a pistol crossbow that breaks? :wink:

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Because it took a 30lb dumbell dropped on it to break the thing :D my pistol crossbow ($150) is a POS! and never wants to work.

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Because it took a 30lb dumbell dropped on it to break the thing :D my pistol crossbow ($150) is a POS! and never wants to work.


*Note to self* no dropping dumbells on spear guns. Got it! :P

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Aren't guns that go "bang" good enough anymore?

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:lol: Oh my God! Is that like a nailgun made into an M4 or something?! (Sorry, but the yellow furniture just made me think "Nailgun!")


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Just a funny pic I found on the web. I've also aways liked this one too:
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It reminds me of a guy I know that has a Bushmaster Xm15A3 with a surefire fore end, an eotech site, 40 round mags, Blackhawk 3 point slings, collapsable folding stock, Crimson Trace lasergrips, bayonet attachements, and a variety of .223 ammo and has never shot the f****** thing once!

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I wonder how the air was compressed to fire it.


Hand pump?
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I doubt it. I think more along the lines of a Paslode's fuel cells(small cylindrical cans of compressed air).Then it would need a battery as well to provide the ignition mechanism.

The second ones Olaf posted look to me like they work more like a powder actuated tool-using a blank cartridge to propel the pin or in this case bolt.

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