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Postby Jonas » Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:07 pm

So I heard a bunch of people talking about trench spikes as a preferred weapon and it got me thinking "what the hell is a trench spike?". I figured it was a spike of some sort used in.......trenches perhaps. After some research the best I can figure is people were making references to the m-1917 trench spike used during ww2. It's essentially a pair of brass knuckles with a nail on it. I thought I'd be a helpful panda and try to find a link where people could buy one. Alas they are tough to find. So I was thinking, a butchers steel would be a decent compromise. I spent a half hour trying to find the one I own but it's harder to find than a damn trench spike. Mines a Russell Green River Works butchers steel with a cast metal handel. Anyway, grind the front of it to more of a point and whabam you have a spike that can also keep an edge on knives.

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Postby kyle » Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:35 pm

We already have a helpful Panda . You'll have to be a helpful Jonas.

Try "Trench knife". You can usually find anything pointy on the knife forums.

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Postby Jonas » Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:49 pm

AWWWWWWWW MAN I found like thirty billion knives like that. Aparently I was looking for a weapon that exists soley in my imagination, a land where kittens fall down from rainbows and I own a scooter.
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Postby Jonas » Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:52 pm

Wait the one you posted is a 1918, the model I researched was a 1917...........could the weapon that is so real in my mind also exist in reality????
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Postby kyle » Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:54 pm

jonas wrote:Wait the one you posted is a 1918, the model I researched was a 1917...........could the weapon that is so real in my mind also exist in reality????


ah. 1917. You must mean this:

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Postby Jonas » Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:57 pm

YAY I'M NOT CRAZY!!!!!!
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Postby kyle » Mon Jul 05, 2004 3:04 pm

note: This is not sufficient poof that jonas is not crazy.
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Postby jamoni » Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:41 pm

http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/amewm_7.htm
Here ya go. The french nail can be made with rebar and a hammer and hacksaw.
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Postby Jeff » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:17 pm

I like that 1918 model. "Brass" knuckles and a blade. Beautiful.
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Postby Raccoon City Survivor » Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:37 pm

kyle wrote:We already have a helpful Panda . You'll have to be a helpful Jonas.

Try "Trench knife". You can usually find anything pointy on the knife forums.

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That's cooler than hell.
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Postby jamoni » Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:36 am

It's also a good way to break a finger should your blade become lodged or get deflected.
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Postby NecronomiconExMortis » Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:07 pm

I found a m-1917 trench spike and posted it somewhere. Can't remember. Those son's of bitches are hard to come by... :x
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Postby Jeff » Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:13 pm

Jamoni wrote:It's also a good way to break a finger should your blade become lodged or get deflected.


Build it with some sort of release for the blade, or just let go?
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Postby AlextheZombieKillah » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:24 am

The WWI trench spike is probably one of the best melee weapons out there (hard as hell to find though) its basically a long railroad spike with knuckles on it. It is also great cuz it was designed to pierce steel helmets and skull to strike the brain and be easily removed, ideal for zombie combat. and if there close you can use the knuckles to hit them in the face and knock them down. If you can find one the cherish it forever, the bladed ones arent as good cuz they dont have as much piercing power.
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Postby ghostface » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:29 am

Wow- I haven't seen this thread in a while. I would opt for something both with a longer reach and a dual purpose. But then again, who knows- I'm tall, maybe slamming spikes down on zombies' skulls is all there is to it. :)
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Postby AlextheZombieKillah » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:54 am

you do get too close but its a nearly promised kill so its worth the risk.
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Postby Nightside_Eclipse » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:33 am

The butchers steel would probably be WAY too hard to sharpen and way too brittle to be an effective weapon.


And I am NOT using a knife against a zombie unless I have absolutely no other choice.

I'd use my shotgun as a club first.
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Postby SMERSH » Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:17 pm

NecronomiconExMortis wrote:I found a m-1917 trench spike and posted it somewhere. Can't remember. Those son's of bitches are hard to come by... :x


you should try looking for one of those on WWI re-enactmet sites
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Postby Oracle » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:13 pm

Why not simply use a punch/push dagger? I carry one everyday.
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Postby RealityDeviant » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:08 am

I’ll begin by saying that people with a preference for bladed weapons are entitled to their opinions. They can be completely appropriate depending on their use, and I think space for at least two small, folding ones should be included in a B.O.B.

However, I still have serious reservations about the use of bladed weapons in the event of a zombocalypse. If you’re looking at going at human targets then knives are fine, but we would not expect those weapons to be more lethal to zombies than blunt weapons, especially when they are not in the hands of someone skilled in their use. Still, something like a high-quality aluminum bat might work best when considering potential knockdown or incapacitation, durability, length, and reliability. All of these factors would be essential in choosing a backup melee weapon. Space might be an issue, but they are typically lighter than shovels or sledgehammers and have better range and lower penetration potential than picks, axes, or hammers.

Along with Nightside, I would use the butt of a gun before using a knife. First, I would not want to be near these things. If you’re that close to one, you’re likely to be that close to more. Also, I would not want to get their blood anywhere near my person, and a cutting weapon might get some on me, particularly if I were looking to make head wounds. The weapon has a danger of sticking or breaking off in the bone, and that’s too risky. I would never use the spiked knuckle feature on trench knives, because I would never want to get a part of my body that close to a zombie. The only purpose I would keep a knife for is utility.

Of course, if you’d plan on going for short-range combat with either a bladed or blunt weapon (e.g. hammers are great if you need the space, but they’re too short), I would suggest using something in your off hand to block bites. Since most people don’t own shields and shields can be weighty and take up a lot of space, I would suggest something you have in your homes. This may sound really funny, but a plunger could fulfill that use admirably. If you can use a short-range melee weapon with confidence, then you can probably use the plunger to cover up their mouth and jaws for as long as it takes to get in for the close kill. Also, if they try to bat away your weapon, they’ll be more likely to bat away the plunger as it will make contact first. Chances are that this will leave them open for an attack from your primary melee weapon of choice.

If the zombies are such that melee combat isn’t as risky (movement speed is a big factor), a plunger could be a great choice. They are relatively durable, easy to find, light, and you suffer almost nothing from ditching them.

Plus, the comedic value of the weapon is sky-high. :D
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Postby holytoledo69 » Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:31 am

RealityDeviant wrote:If the zombies are such that melee combat isn’t as risky (movement speed is a big factor), a plunger could be a great choice. They are relatively durable, easy to find, light, and you suffer almost nothing from ditching them.

Plus, the comedic value of the weapon is sky-high. :D



I never thought of that. Great I dea!!!! If *daleks can have them, why cant we? Exterminate!! Exterminate!!! :D


*Daleks are robotic creatures (with plungers for arms) from the british sci-fi "Doctor Who" for you younger folks :P
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Postby bgaesop » Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:24 pm

Doctor Who rocked.
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Postby -Jason- » Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:58 pm

A screw driver can preform as well as a trench spike are are easier to come by.
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Postby Necro99 » Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:31 pm

kyle wrote:We already have a helpful Panda . You'll have to be a helpful Jonas.

Try "Trench knife". You can usually find anything pointy on the knife forums.

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In Canada they would probably throw you in Jail for even THINKING of that knife.
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