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Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them hurt

Postby DarkScythe » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:39 pm

or killed.

Mother- When her doorbell is buzzed or someone knocks on the door, she loves to more than peek through the blinds. She will lift one whole blind up just to see who is at the door. This for sure let's a potential burglar know a woman at the very least is at home.

Homeboy- Tail gates a lot especially on the way to Vegas

Multiple people- sitting in the car with the doors unlocked, or with the door open as they doing what ever they are doing such as getting back into the car after coming from the atm.

Then again I notice many in society do the same thing.

Multiple family/Friends- having the volume up on the TV to a level where they can't here anything but the TV.
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby Laager » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:33 pm

or just open the door without turning on the porch light or even looking out the peephole.

on the cell phone talking about private/personal stuff

or having family and friends talk about your private/personal stuff while eating out.

leaving your home and other keys on your key ring when you are having work done on your vehicle (they have your vehicle registration and other personal infomation), includes garage door openers as well.

I'm sure the list could go on and on.......

a lot of people live in Condition White, and are totally oblivious to their surroundings.
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby Katica » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:47 pm

my mom, the other day: "This is weird, at the top of my hotmail it says that hotmail will never ask me for my password, but this e-mail from hotmail says i have to send them my password. should i send it to them?"

me: "no."
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby DarkScythe » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:59 pm

On Tuesday my GF opened the door for a Jehovah Witnesses, problem is she had one solid door with no screen door or any other door before, but she does have a chain latch. She open the door removing the latch! Smh

I asked her why did she open the door.

Her response

"I looked out the window and they are Jehovah's Witness"

I was not far behind and out of sight with my M&P 40c at my side, just in case anything jumped off. Hell that's a good way to get into a house. Pretend to be a Jehovah's witness and perhaps case the place and come back at night.

Haven't heard any stories on that tactic being used.

My aunt is a Jehovah's witness.
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby DarkScythe » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:00 pm

Katica wrote:my mom, the other day: "This is weird, at the top of my hotmail it says that hotmail will never ask me for my password, but this e-mail from hotmail says i have to send them my password. should i send it to them?"

me: "no."
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Postby A.C.E. » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:47 am

DarkScythe wrote:On Tuesday my GF opened the door for a Jehovah Witnesses, problem is she had one solid door with no screen door or any other door before, but she does have a chain latch. She open the door removing the latch! Smh

I asked her why did she open the door.

Her response

"I looked out the window and they are Jehovah's Witness"

I was not far behind and out of sight with my M&P 40c at my side, just in case anything jumped off. Hell that's a good way to get into a house. Pretend to be a Jehovah's witness and perhaps case the place and come back at night.

Haven't heard any stories on that tactic being used.

My aunt is a Jehovah's witness.

Something similar happens around here from time to time, but usually they impersonate police officers or similar. Or when the victims are elderly, home care nurses.

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Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them hurt

Postby wee drop o' bush » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:55 am

My mother loves walking & generally walks local trails & beauty spots on her own. My siblings & I have asked her not to walk on her own in the more secluded ones. Thankfully she agreed to this.

I have friends announce on Facebook that they're going on holiday to such & such next week for a fortnight :words: That's a bad idea. As much as I'm excited about a holiday, I wait till I get back before I start posting photos.
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby firebee » Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:38 pm

DarkScythe wrote:Mother- When her doorbell is buzzed or someone knocks on the door, she loves to more than peek through the blinds. She will lift one whole blind up just to see who is at the door. This for sure let's a potential burglar know a woman at the very least is at home.


Uhm, what? You're seriously saying that lifting one blind in order to see who is outside is an unreasonable habit for a woman to have?
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby firebee » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:16 pm

To be a bit less of a jerk, I'll note explicitly that I think a distinction needs to be considered between unthinkingly doing a given thing when a better alternative would be just as convenient, or deciding based on prudent principles to be less than fully secure in order to facilitate everyday life.

While a person can certainly choose otherwise, I think there are a lot of living situations where a person isn't dancing with death to reveal the presence of a whole eyeball to someone at the door and where it can even be perfectly reasonable to answer the door if the person seems to be there for an acceptable reason. I'd differ on the point of considering "is a traveling afterlife-salesman" to be an acceptable reason -- that does seem more like the sort of case where I'd be inclined to flatten myself on the floor, breathe quietly, and endeavor to radiate an aura of "nobody is home and nobody will ever be home". Burglars wouldn't be it, though. Might not want to open the door to the friendly neighborhood burglar, I'd as soon they not think there's nobody around when there is so that they don't find out the less civilized way.
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby Yrkoon9 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:19 pm

Less than 3 days after I installed a secondary lock system on the front door my wife...

...hears the doorbell at 8pm, unlocks the door and the secondary, then opens the door to see who it is. (we have a small window next to the door you can visually identify people and she didnt use it). I was standing on the stairs and see a very undesirable person pander some lawncare service BS. At 8pm. She closed the door and I flipped out. I said about 2 curse words and realized it was useless. I went downstairs and didn't talk to her for 2 days.

I waited for weeks before I was able to express myself. Completely irrelevant topic that just opened up into an opportunity while she was talking about something.. I just looked right at her and said, "You do some of the dumbest fucking shit I have ever seen anybody do. I cant protect you from your own stupidity." She got all pissed for about 2 seconds until it dawned on her what I was talking about. I just stood there shaking my head in disgust the same way I did when it happened.

Was awesome. Mainly because that is how she treats me when I screw up. I get the silent treatment - then she brings it up and slaps me in the face with it when I least expect it. Maybe not the preferred method of communication but in this case it was effective. It stung. Don't think it will change her mindset though.
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby Blacksmith » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:32 pm

Brother- constantly driving too fast and occasionally recklessly.

Oh wait that did get him killed

Some of you guys letting stuff slide might want to give it some thought...
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby sigboy40 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:07 am

I look at it this way:

You cannot tell another grown man, mother, wife, grandfather, neighbor, stray cat, etc what to do. You can only try and influence them. One good way would be by trying to (politely) alter their perception.

an example of what no to do:
Yrkoon9 wrote: "You do some of the dumbest fucking shit I have ever seen anybody do. I cant protect you from your own stupidity." She got all pissed for about 2 seconds until it dawned on her what I was talking about. I just stood there shaking my head in disgust the same way I did when it happened.


An example of what to do:
wee drop o' bush wrote:My mother loves walking & generally walks local trails & beauty spots on her own. My siblings & I have asked her not to walk on her own in the more secluded ones. Thankfully she agreed to this.


They are grown ass people, and capable of making their own decisions. Yes, it would suck if something bad happened because of their habits. That does not make you responsible for it.
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby Alaskancouple » Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:18 pm

Yrkoon9 wrote:Less than 3 days after I installed a secondary lock system on the front door my wife...

...hears the doorbell at 8pm, unlocks the door and the secondary, then opens the door to see who it is. (we have a small window next to the door you can visually identify people and she didnt use it). I was standing on the stairs and see a very undesirable person pander some lawncare service BS. At 8pm. She closed the door and I flipped out. I said about 2 curse words and realized it was useless. I went downstairs and didn't talk to her for 2 days.

I waited for weeks before I was able to express myself. Completely irrelevant topic that just opened up into an opportunity while she was talking about something.. I just looked right at her and said, "You do some of the dumbest fucking shit I have ever seen anybody do. I cant protect you from your own stupidity." She got all pissed for about 2 seconds until it dawned on her what I was talking about. I just stood there shaking my head in disgust the same way I did when it happened.

Was awesome. Mainly because that is how she treats me when I screw up. I get the silent treatment - then she brings it up and slaps me in the face with it when I least expect it. Maybe not the preferred method of communication but in this case it was effective. It stung. Don't think it will change her mindset though.



Hey, can I fuck your wife when she's done with you? I'm sure that with the way you treat her she's cheating anyway..but I'd thought I'd ask...oh, and is she cute?
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby Viper shtf » Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:26 pm

I lol'd.
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby raptor » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:06 pm

Alaskancouple wrote:
Hey, can I fuck your wife when she's done with you? I'm sure that with the way you treat her she's cheating anyway..but I'd thought I'd ask...oh, and is she cute?

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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby Neddog » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:21 pm

DarkScythe wrote:Multiple family/Friends- having the volume up on the TV to a level where they can't here anything but the TV.


What's the point of an entertainment system if you can't drown out the world?

Even with my system up, I can always detect things that aren't as they should be...
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby dustytomes » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:53 pm

Father-in-law Opens front door for two young men with a petition to get pothole fixed. One asks for a glass of water and shoves past him. Dad turns to tell him to get the fuck out and ass hat #2 BASHES HIM IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD! They tie him up and rob him blind. He's 72.

At work I routinely have to go into peoples backyards to access the gas meter. So I knock on front door wait the required 30 seconds. when there is no answer I go around back. As I'm walking past back door I am startled by a scream! I look over and see a smoking hot 20something in a short bathrobe. She sees my safety vest and gear, giggles, and OPENS THE DOOR TO APOLOGIZE FOR STARTLING ME!
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby Blacksmith » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:19 pm

dustytomes wrote:Father-in-law Opens front door for two young men with a petition to get pothole fixed. One asks for a glass of water and shoves past him. Dad turns to tell him to get the fuck out and ass hat #2 BASHES HIM IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD! They tie him up and rob him blind. He's 72.

At work I routinely have to go into peoples backyards to access the gas meter. So I knock on front door wait the required 30 seconds. when there is no answer I go around back. As I'm walking past back door I am startled by a scream! I look over and see a smoking hot 20something in a short bathrobe. She sees my safety vest and gear, giggles, and OPENS THE DOOR TO APOLOGIZE FOR STARTLING ME!


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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby Mikon » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:35 pm

raptor wrote:
Alaskancouple wrote:
Hey, can I fuck your wife when she's done with you? I'm sure that with the way you treat her she's cheating anyway..but I'd thought I'd ask...oh, and is she cute?

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You're right...i'm sorry...I was being extreme to point out some pretty crazy behavior directed towards the one person in your life that should be treated better and above anyone else..... /sigh I guess i'll go back to killing demons in D3.
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby Jsimmonsgr » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:11 pm

My extended family ( there are some exceptions) has WAY too many to list..... will keep it short.

Dad..... uses fanny pack carry with a walmart fanny pack, no real quick way to access gun\ has almost no situational awareness\ does not think that there will ever be anyone with the intent to harm him.
Mom...... Does not carry\ ZERO situational awareness\ leaves car doors open when entering or exiting\ talks on cell while walking through parking lots\ does not belive that people may harm her.
Sis......... Does not carry\ likes to flash money and or obvious wealth\ feels the need to drive the most expensive car in the family ( brand new tahoe "hybrid")\ carries wallet in her hand\ has little to no situational awareness.
Great aunt....... All of the above. "Jesus will keep me safe. If I pray nothing will happen to me."

For the record I am NOT against religeon ( nor am I bagging on it) BUT........ I AM against using it as a excuse for being lazy and or expecting it to save your butt.
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Re: Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get t

Postby A.C.E. » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:02 pm

Jsimmonsgr wrote:
For the record I am NOT against religeon ( nor am I bagging on it) BUT........ I AM against using it as a excuse for being lazy and or expecting it to save your butt.

Or as the arabs put it: Trust in Allah, but tie your camel.

On a related and almost on topic note, a while back I was in a car with a guy who wouldn't wear a seatbelt because the Lord would save him if he ever crashed. Not very surprisingly, he eventually got into an accident. Luckily for him, it was a never car where the airbags won't deploy if the seatbelts aren't buckled. That probably saved his life.



I believe this kind of mindset, the whole "it won't happen to me", (religious or not) is probably the most common problem with getting people to prepare and plan ahead.
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby RepoMan73 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:21 pm

My elderly father never locks his front door. Heck, sometimes he leaves it open with only the (unlocked) screen door closed. He also leaves the sliding glass patio door open at all times so the cat can get in and out.

It drives me nuts but he won't listen to anything I have to say about it.
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby Zimmy » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:49 am

My stepson steals my beer and money out of the family vacation change jug.

My neighbor swims at night across the local lake. One night I'm sure she is gonna feed the fishes. That is gonna be a sad thing.

My wife recently chastized an attractive 20 something girl we know for posting on public FB. "I'm all alone tonight at home. I wish I had someone to hold me". That is asking for a home invasion/rape/assault/murder/insert nightmare here situation. Great googley-moogley! Doesn't anyone have any sense of PERSEC?
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Re: Bad safety habits of Family/Friends that could get them

Postby grennels » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:47 am

Blacksmith wrote:
dustytomes wrote:Father-in-law Opens front door for two young men with a petition to get pothole fixed. One asks for a glass of water and shoves past him. Dad turns to tell him to get the fuck out and ass hat #2 BASHES HIM IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD! They tie him up and rob him blind. He's 72.

At work I routinely have to go into peoples backyards to access the gas meter. So I knock on front door wait the required 30 seconds. when there is no answer I go around back. As I'm walking past back door I am startled by a scream! I look over and see a smoking hot 20something in a short bathrobe. She sees my safety vest and gear, giggles, and OPENS THE DOOR TO APOLOGIZE FOR STARTLING ME!


If you paste some numbers on the bumper of a late model white truck and get hard hat and vest you can go almost anywhere in America with minimum fuss.





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