Daylight Savings Time and PAW

[dukman]

This is probably a dumb question... but would anyone bother to keep the Daylight Savings tradition going in any extended PAW scenario?

[ace of shades]

Especially during the PAW. DTS was introduced for the farmers so they could work in daylight, and that you didn't need to run as much artificial light during the evening hours before bed. Either that or some where along the lines someone is going to say "screw it" and not worry about numbers on the clock, But I doubt that

[dukman]

Especially during the PAW. DTS was introduced for the farmers so they could work in daylight, and that you didn't need to run as much artificial light during the evening hours before bed. Either that or some where along the lines someone is going to say "screw it" and not worry about numbers on the clock, But I doubt that

DST was first proposed by some guy who just wanted more daylight hours after work so he could play GOLF longer. I can see why it was adopted in the early days of electricity, but it ain't the early days anymore. We have factories working 3 shifts, 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

Can you please enlighten me on how it affects farming? I get how the shorter daylight hours might affect farm operations, but I don't understand what changing the time on a clock has to do with any of that.

I can see it creating some animosity during a PAW, as you will have the night watchman that day calling BS about how he had to work an extra hour on shift while everyone else got to sleep in.

[thatguy91]

Daylight savings kinda becomes irrelevant. I would think people would just wake up the time they need to wether that be 3am or 4am, 10am or 11am. People managed to do this before "time" was sculptured into what we think of it today.

[Silent Kube]

Even in the non PAW, I think DST is an antiquated system and needs to be gotten rid of. Most farmers I know get up at dawn anyway regardless of what the clocks say. All it does is confuse people and screw up their sleep schedules.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

Even in the non PAW, I think DST is an antiquated system and needs to be gotten rid of. Most farmers I know get up at dawn anyway regardless of what the clocks say. All it does is confuse people and screw up their sleep schedules.

At dawn? Lazy farmers are lazy.

Anyhow, why bother? I don't exactly think time will nearly as critical as we make it out to be. How many years went by before a watch (or any portable timekeeping device) was a common item for every man, woman, and child. When civilization as you know it stops, there are 3 times that become truly important. Dawn (this is when you wake up, more or less) Dusk (This is more or less when you go to sleep, also when B.O.B. goes away) and noon, which is rarely 12:00. Noon is when B.O.B. sits overhead and tries to kill you. It's a decent time for a break.

[Silent Kube]

Even in the non PAW, I think DST is an antiquated system and needs to be gotten rid of. Most farmers I know get up at dawn anyway regardless of what the clocks say. All it does is confuse people and screw up their sleep schedules.

At dawn? Lazy farmers are lazy.

Okay, you got me. I should have just said damn early.

[bluesquid]

Time is the greatest Dogma ever created.

More people "follow" time than any religion. That wont die easily.

But if I was farming, and needed all the light of the day? Im waking up at first light.

[sql_yoda]

I said yes. DST only exists as a way for people with work schedules to have relatively common hourly intervals. In the event of such a scenario, even if we're just talking about a town watchman clanging out twelve bells instead of eleven at the same hour in the summer as opposed to winter, I think most of us would end up still holding to the daylight savings hours in winter months. It probably wouldn't be purposefully, but when the sun rises you'll get up and when it sets you'll go to bed. I don't think I'd have or need a timepiece in the PAW, but I do think I'd keep hours closely resembling the DST adjustment.

Edit: Actually now that I'm thinking about it more I think maybe my answer should have been no. The hours kept strictly by daylight don't resemble DST adjustments, they're kind of exactly opposite.

[KYZHunters]

At dawn? Lazy farmers are lazy.

Meh. I'm a farmer and I find it difficult to do anything constructive in the dark. In a PAW, I'd probably drop milking down to once a day, at first light, and leave a calf on the cow to take the rest. But then again, I'm lazy.

[Doctorr Fabulous]

At dawn? Lazy farmers are lazy.

Meh. I'm a farmer and I find it difficult to do anything constructive in the dark. In a PAW, I'd probably drop milking down to once a day, at first light, and leave a calf on the cow to take the rest. But then again, I'm lazy.

I was mostly making fun of Kube but when I was a hand, we used to wake up a half-hour before dawn on the regular, earlier for special days, just so that everyone had a chance to scare up a biscuit, some coffee, and a cigarette just in time for daybreak. I guess some of it depends on what you keep and how much help you have.

[Hachiman]

I was mostly making fun of Kube but when I was a hand, we used to wake up a half-hour before dawn on the regular, earlier for special days, just so that everyone had a chance to scare up a biscuit, some coffee, and a cigarette just in time for daybreak. I guess some of it depends on what you keep and how much help you have.

As soon as it was light enough to see we were feeding, milking and hooking up/loading up for the day. Went in for lunch (sometimes) and got to the house just before dark.

[erich]

Yeah, I've pretty much hated the whole Daylight Savings Time crap since I was about 12 (which was a looooooong time ago).
Also hate alarm clocks, but I'm a working stiff :p

I think we'd all be a lot better off if we got up when we naturally woke up, rather than at some artificial "gotta be to work
at WTF-IN-THE-AM" garbage.

[Kommander]

Here in the enlightened state of Arizona we do not have DST. Somehow the farms get along without it.

[oldsoldier]

I believe it was created for factory workers, so that there was natural light at the beginning of their shift-not farmers. I COULD be wrong though.
I think we should all go to GMT-no daylight savings, no time zones, nothing silly like that. We would all be on the same clock

[grennels]

Time zones were invented by the railroads.

[Rev]

My family never really cared much about daylight savings time. You work on the animals time table not your own.

[Nutpantz]

Accurate time was created so ships could navigate.without it you can't use a sexant.time zones make sense since there are 24 of them to match the 24 hours it takes the planet to turn and is much better than the old system of each city setting the time based on solar noon. Daylight savings is now and always had been used to save power in cities. It dose not work as well as it used to before air conditioners were in every house.
I'm going by memory but daylight savings was brought in to save power for the war effort in the
40's.
I could be wrong about everything.
I'm sure google will prove what's right.
But a clock with anything but a hour hand would be just over kill in the paw.

All spelling and grammar errors the fault of my phone.

[ZombieGranny]

My understanding is that it saves power in the North but not in the South due to differing uses of power; ie the North for heating, the South for cooling.

[donjulio]

Hell no.

Also, I thought that it came about as a power saving measure during the depression.

[ShortFieldBreak]

DST came about during World War I. The US was actually a straggler when it came to adoption, not implementing it until 1918, 2 years after it was adopted by numerous other European countries. Ain't Google wonderful?

The first link I came to had a lot of information about it.

Clicky

SFB

[ForgeCorvus]

Nutpantz, You're not quite right, you can't find out your Longitude without an accurate clock (set to GMT) and a sextant. Your Latitude you can find with a simple quadrant (or for that matter a schools protractor and a bit of string with a weight on it).

So, in the PAW you'll need two times. The first is GMT and local time, GMT for navigation and local time so you know when to get up.


Daylight saving time is a foul abomination spawned in the darkest neither regions of hell and should be consigned there until half-past eternity

[crypto]

Here in the enlightened state of Arizona we do not have DST. Somehow the farms get along without it.

What do you guys farm in the desert, anyway? Moisture?

Hey, next time you run into Tashi Station, pick me up a couple power converters.

[raptor]

I would simply start using GMT as local time. The reason for that is simply because it makes celestial navigation simple.